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Old October 8th, 2012, 11:34 PM   #861
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Villanova in Italy. Newcastle in Britain.

Notice: all British places containing "castle" or "chester" (Newcastle, Manchester,...) have Roman origins. Those names come from the Latin "castrum" that means "army camp".
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Old October 8th, 2012, 11:39 PM   #862
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The 2nd arrow should be "San Dorligo della Valle \ Dolina", not "Dolina \ Dolina".
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Old October 8th, 2012, 11:45 PM   #863
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Villanova in Italy. Newcastle in Britain.
Villeneuve in France, Villanueva in Spain (there are several towns with this name. Just 12 km north from my city, Villanueva de Gallego)
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Old October 8th, 2012, 11:51 PM   #864
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Villafeliche, a little 220 people village in the south east of Aragon, Spain, is "twined" with the Italian town of Villafelice in Lacio.
Villafeliche in Spanish and Villafelice in Italian are pronounced exactly in the same way!!!!!!




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Old October 9th, 2012, 12:08 AM   #865
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Notice: all British places containing "castle" or "chester" (Newcastle, Manchester,...) have Roman origins. Those names come from the Latin "castrum" that means "army camp".

In Spain, as well as in a lot of southern Europe countries, there are a lot, lot, lot of city and town names that come from Latin.

In most of ways, it is very obvious the origin: Barcino for Barcelona, Tarraco for Tarragona, Lucus Augusti for Lugo, Saguntum for Sagunto...

but there are some ones very curious:

* Legio VII, the city created for these militars retirement is now Leon
* Emerita Augusta, one of the three capitals in Iberia (with a territory in Extremadura and 70% Portugal more or less) is now Merida
* Another territory capital: Hispalis, was very close to current Sevilla. It is not know the exact point of that city, but the word "hispalense" referred to Sevilla's inhabitants is used in Spanish
* Similar to Bilbilis, current Calatayud, and city where Marco Valerio Marcial, one of the most important writters in Latin was born. Calatayud comes from Qalat Ayub (Ayub Castle in Arabic), but the word "bilbilitano" for inhabitants is used (and the only word used for that city)
* Near it... "Acquae Bilbilitanae", curren "Alhama de Aragon". Obviously current name is Arabic... but there are two different spa resorts in the little village, discovered by the Romans (translation name Bilbilis' waters)
* Carthago Nova (New Carthago), current Cartagena. Did someone think that the city located in the north of Tunis will give name to a Spanish city and later... to an important city in Colombia?????????
* Caesar Augusta. Founded in the year 25 before Christ by that Roman Empiror. It is the city where I live and took its name.


And not a town but the name I like more: Somport. It comes from Summus Portus.

1620 m over sea level, the lowest point in the central Pyrenees. Used by Anibal to cross to France with the elephants in the war against Roman Empire.
Used by Pilgrims in the Middle Age in the Lane to St. James
And maybe... the biggest toll-free tunnel in the E-07
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Old October 9th, 2012, 12:40 AM   #866
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Many Italian towns have names related to the distance (misured in Roman miles) from major cities:

- Sesto San Giovanni: 6 miles from Milan
- Sesto Fiorentino: 6 miles from Florence
- Sesto al Reghena: 6 miles from Concordia Sagittaria
- Sesto Calende: 6 miles from Somma Lombardo
- Settimo Torinese: 7 miles from Turin
- Settimo Milanese: 7 miles from Milan
- Quarto d'Altino: 4 miles from Altino (former Roman settlement near Mestre)
- Quarto Oggiaro: 4 miles from Milan
- Quarto dei Mille: 4 miles from Genoa
- Terzo di Aquileia: 3 miles from Aquileia
- Tricesimo: 30 miles from Aquileia
- Azzano Decimo: 10 miles from Concordia Sagittaria

and probably others

Codroipo come from "quadrivium" that in Italian is "quadrivio" and means "four roads intersection". (Most people know Codroipo just because is the perfect anagram of a very rude swearing expression very popular in this part of Italy )

Cividale del Friuli was once called Forum Iulii (Emperor Julius's square) that later became Friuli and refers to the whole region located between Livenza river, Isonzo river, the Alpin watershed and the Adriatic sea.
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Old October 9th, 2012, 02:13 AM   #867
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Numbers...


CNGL, where are you?????


Near Huesca (Osca in Latin) you have:

Tierz: related to 3
Cuarte: related to 4
Sietamo: related to 7
Nueno: related to 9


Take a look to distances from those little villages to Huesca. Even if they are in opposites directions, they have relations

https://maps.google.es/maps?saddr=hu...a=1,2,3,4&z=13



Near Zaragoza, Cuarte (4) and Utebo (8) have relation with distance to Caesar Augusta. It exists Quinto too... but much far away.
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Old October 9th, 2012, 03:00 AM   #868
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Neuveville in French, Neustadt in German, ...
Yes, although Slovenian Novo mesto is in (old) German called Neustadtl.

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The 2nd arrow should be "San Dorligo della Valle \ Dolina", not "Dolina \ Dolina".
And Dolina Glinščice. Here is what Wikipedia says about Dolina:
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The Slovene name of the town, Dolina, means 'Valley'. This was the official name in Italian, as well, until it was renamed to San Dorligo Della Valle in 1923, as part of the policies of Fascist Italianization. In the local Italian Triestine dialect, the village has always been referred to simply as Dolina. In 2003, the denomination Dolina was adopted as the official name of the settlement in both languages;[2] however, the municipality is still called San Dorligo della Valle in Italian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Dor...lla_Valle#Name
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Old October 9th, 2012, 11:31 AM   #870
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The word dolina exists in Italian dictionary and means a small valley in a carsic* territory.

*The adjective carsic doesn't just mean related to Carso/Kras (the highland shared by Italy and Slovenia) but also to similar areas arond the world.
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Old October 9th, 2012, 11:44 AM   #871
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Numbers...


CNGL, where are you?????
At the time you wrote your post I was sleeping .

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Near Huesca (Osca in Latin) you have:

Tierz: related to 3
Cuarte: related to 4
Sietamo: related to 7
Nueno: related to 9


Take a look to distances from those little villages to Huesca. Even if they are in opposites directions, they have relations

https://maps.google.es/maps?saddr=hu...a=1,2,3,4&z=13



Near Zaragoza, Cuarte (4) and Utebo (8) have relation with distance to Caesar Augusta. It exists Quinto too... but much far away.
I'm only sure of Sietamo, which is located seven miles away from Osca/Huesca (And where A-22 abruptly ends, and it will remain as it is well during decades). Tierz and Cuarte are too close to mark the 3rd and the 4th miles respectively IMO.
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the name of the village where i live has also a interesting linguistic story,founded by hungarians in i dont know which year a they called piros which is a word that is hard to translate to english but it means something like red.as serbs arrived into the village they gave it the serbian name rumenka from the word rumen which also means something like red.the problem is that many cows in the balkans are named rumenka so that the name is a little bit funny interesting fact is that we dont have one single cow in the village but maybe one day somebody will buy one so he can say this is rumenka from rumenka
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Villefranche (F) - Villafranca (E). Several towns with this name

Montauban (F) - Montalban (E)
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The word dolina exists in Italian dictionary and means a small valley in a carsic* territory.

*The adjective carsic doesn't just mean related to Carso/Kras (the highland shared by Italy and Slovenia) but also to similar areas arond the world.
Yes, but the word "carsic" does not exist in the two on-line English dictionaries I just checked.
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Yes, although Slovenian Novo mesto is in (old) German called Neustadtl.
i thought it was Rudolfswerth, (Rudolfovo)
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Many Italian towns have names related to the distance (misured in Roman miles) from major cities:

- Sesto San Giovanni: 6 miles from Milan
- Sesto Fiorentino: 6 miles from Florence
- Sesto al Reghena: 6 miles from Concordia Sagittaria
- Sesto Calende: 6 miles from Somma Lombardo
- Settimo Torinese: 7 miles from Turin
- Settimo Milanese: 7 miles from Milan
- Quarto d'Altino: 4 miles from Altino (former Roman settlement near Mestre)
- Quarto Oggiaro: 4 miles from Milan
- Quarto dei Mille: 4 miles from Genoa
- Terzo di Aquileia: 3 miles from Aquileia
- Tricesimo: 30 miles from Aquileia
- Azzano Decimo: 10 miles from Concordia Sagittaria

and probably others

Codroipo come from "quadrivium" that in Italian is "quadrivio" and means "four roads intersection". (Most people know Codroipo just because is the perfect anagram of a very rude swearing expression very popular in this part of Italy )

Cividale del Friuli was once called Forum Iulii (Emperor Julius's square) that later became Friuli and refers to the whole region located between Livenza river, Isonzo river, the Alpin watershed and the Adriatic sea.
i just wanted to ask about that thx for explanation.

btw, Noventa di Piave - why? is it 90 km/miles from Piave source?

Riese Pio X - obviously has something with pope, right?
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Yes, but the word "carsic" does not exist in the two on-line English dictionaries I just checked.
It's "karstic" (adjective) and "karst" (noun).

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i thought it was Rudolfswerth, (Rudolfovo)
It's both.
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i just wanted to ask about that thx for explanation.

btw, Noventa di Piave - why? is it 90 km/miles from Piave source?

Riese Pio X - obviously has something with pope, right?
Riese Pio X off course, Noventa di Piave not.
Few Italian towns are named after famous people:
San Mauro Pascoli
Arquà Petrarca
Castagneto Carducci
Roncole Verdi
Sasso Marconi
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i just wanted to ask about that thx for explanation.

btw, Noventa di Piave - why? is it 90 km/miles from Piave source?

Riese Pio X - obviously has something with pope, right?
AFAIK number 90 is "novanta" in Italian, so I don't think is after that. I asked the same thing with Noventa Vicentina. However, 90 IS spelt "noventa" in Spanish.

I have to look at a map of Spain again, I think I have found five or six penises on town names...
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