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Old April 23rd, 2012, 06:31 PM   #361
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Is there any informations about new E-roads in Europe? For example in Sweden, there are new approved E16 road.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 03:59 AM   #362
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The documented route changes (amendments to the AGR Annex I) are scattered in the UNECE site:

Hungary's eastward extension of E66 is the most recent.
http://www.unece.org/trans/main/sc1/inf106.html

Other documents under "Informal Documents" in the left navigation panel will lead to others, like the E16 extension across Sweden, addition of Hungary E579, Turkey E981 and E982, etc.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 10:37 AM   #363
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Thanks That's what I mean
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Old April 24th, 2012, 11:52 AM   #364
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Hungary's eastward extension of E66 is the most recent.
We used to have the E66 in Sweden, now it's the E22.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 03:26 PM   #365
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We had E16 in Poland Now it`s mostly the E75
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Old April 25th, 2012, 05:26 PM   #366
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We have in kosovo E851, E80 and E65.
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Slovenian A5 has finally become E653 (Hungarian M70 has already been E653 for a decade):
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Are there other new changes in E-numebering, new E-numbers etc. ?
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Honestly these E-numbers are useless, in Scandinavia where there is NO room for confusion on routes or directions the E-numbers are signed amazingly well.

While in the highway/border mess of Benelux/Ger/Fr region where clear routes with one nr would be really useful the E-numbers are secondary.
So whats the point you know?

I personally would really like to go back to pre E-numbering in my country.
E4 would be Route 1
E6 would be Route 2
This makes more sense, E4 doesn't even go anywhere else.
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Old April 4th, 2014, 09:46 AM   #370
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I personally would really like to go back to pre E-numbering in my country.
E4 would be Route 1
E6 would be Route 2
This makes more sense, E4 doesn't even go anywhere else.


The E6 goes into Norway so that is an international road which needs an E-number, but the E4 only runs in Sweden (and 1km in Finland) so that road may have less reasons to be an E-road. The E4-roadnumber is well-known, well-recognized and deeply rooted in people's minds so I would not like it to be renamed. I don't think it is necessary unless the stretch of the road is changed. Also 1 590 km of new signage would cost a lot of taxpayer's money. When the E66 was renamed to E22 it didnt cause a lot of attention because that road is not that long and the number wasnt too
present in peoples minds.

I think main roads that cross a border or begin at an international port with regular ferry-connections should have an E-number, it makes it easier for international motorists.
Of course in continental europe there are so many of these roads crossing borders that it doesnt make sense but in Scandinavia I think it does.

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The E6 goes into Norway so that is an international road which needs an E-number, but the E4 only runs in Sweden (and 1km in Finland) so that road may have less reasons to be an E-road. The E4-roadnumber is well-known, well-recognized and deeply rooted in people's minds so I would not like it to be renamed. I don't think it is necessary unless the stretch of the road is changed. Also 1 590 km of new signage would cost a lot of taxpayer's money. When the E66 was renamed to E22 it didnt cause a lot of attention because that road is not that long and the number wasnt too
present in peoples minds.

I think main roads that cross a border or begin at an international port with regular ferry-connections should have an E-number, it makes it easier for international motorists.
Of course in continental europe there are so many of these roads crossing borders that it doesnt make sense but in Scandinavia I think it does.
Never mind Norway, E6 is first of all a Swedish west coast road and Riksettan is a legend loved by many, losing E4 is nothing.
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Never mind Norway, E6 is first of all a Swedish west coast road and Riksettan is a legend loved by many, losing E4 is nothing.

The R1 has some nostalgic value, it's the swedish route 66. I have noticed some stretches are still left, usually narrow cobblestoned streets.
I have made 2 videos of the old R1: one outside Mjölby and also Brahegatan in Gränna.




It's hard to believe that this narrow cobbledstoned street was a part of the most important road in Sweden.
Traffic volume was of course much lower than today and back then few people could even afford to buy a car.
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Are there other new changes in E-numebering, new E-numbers etc. ?
No, it's just that Slovenia has come to its senses and finally started using the E653 (which before ended at the SLO-H border).
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Old April 4th, 2014, 04:43 PM   #374
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Has anybody noticed that Google shows this gravel road to be E22?
https://www.google.com/maps/@56.4659...IpWA!2e0?hl=lv

The reason is that they changed their maps a few years before this road has been upgraded and the E22 is rerouted through here. I just hope drivers trust road signs more than Google Maps...
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Old April 4th, 2014, 05:18 PM   #375
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That gravel road looks like still the most direct link between Moscow and Riga.
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The upgraded gravel road will only be a kilometer or so shorter than the current E22 route...
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If this gravel road isn't E22, then where is E22?
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The current E22 is 5km from the gravel road on the other side of the railway.
https://www.google.com/maps/@56.4662...rGxA!2e0?hl=lv

The almost constant "no overtaking" is probably the main reason why are we rerouting the E22. The last bit of the new road has also been widened to a 2+1 and has portable toilets every couple of kilometers because once every while there are long lorry queues at the border crossing.

Last year we also completed a more major part of E22 rerouting from the A6 which runs through many built-up areas to the part reconstructed, part newly built P80. Still much of rerouting to be done.
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Why don't they renumber P80 into A6 or some other A-road? "P80" sounds unimportant. What do "A" and "P" stand for, btw?
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At least Google makes you using the correct (paved) road.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Mask....9496487?hl=lv
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