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Old January 28th, 2007, 08:12 PM   #81
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Not so sure, there is a really strong opposition. On the Italian side, the concerned valley's population especially. They obliged the construction companies to remove the "yards" they started to build.
The European Union granted 1 billion Euros to this project, and the three mayors of Lyon, Torino and Barcelona (a Lyon-Barcelona high speed line is also to come soon) signed an agreement concerning this line.
This line is not a mayor's whim, it's a European project, it thus can't be cancelled.
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Old January 29th, 2007, 12:30 AM   #82
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Local population managed to close the existing works area, even phisically blocking cranes, trucks, and so on.

I agree that projects involving a great number of people should not be blocked by local residents, but that is what they do.
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Old January 29th, 2007, 04:30 PM   #83
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It would be verry intresting to know about legal circumstances in the different countries. I know in France they are able to relocate people if a project has a high impact of the nations interests. In Germany for example it takes years to find an acceptable consens.
Do someone knows how this will be handeled in Italy or Spain?
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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:06 AM   #84
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The line is 90% in tunnel, and no houses would be demolished.
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Old February 1st, 2007, 12:20 PM   #85
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S - 103 (Velaro) from Spain

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Old February 2nd, 2007, 04:38 AM   #86
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Virgin Trains:

Class 220 Voyager:



Class 221 Super Voyager:



Class 390 Pendolino:





All of these trains have a topspeed of 200 km/h
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Old February 2nd, 2007, 08:40 PM   #87
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Class 390 Pendolino's have a top speed of 225kph but the ungraded signalling isn't in place to run them at that speed.
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Old March 27th, 2007, 10:12 PM   #88
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Ok, the new Dutch NS HIspeed trains design by pininfarina build by AnsaldoBreda is out!





And it's ugly as hell, YUCK I must note that it probably won't have the grill, the coupler will be there instead.
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Old March 27th, 2007, 10:48 PM   #89
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I'm sure that these oppositions slow down the works for construction of the HSL in this part....but really I want to see you, if such a great and huge infrastructure will destroy your land....and the abitants of Val Di Susa are a bit afraid, and because in Italy there is democracy if authorities want to build such a similar thing, they MUST talk with people and they can't oblige them. so now there is a "round table" to decide a good plan.
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Old March 28th, 2007, 05:50 PM   #90
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Oww... I was hoping that the design would look nicer

I hope that it will look a lot better with the grill replaced... Otherwise I'll be seeing these trains each day

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Old March 28th, 2007, 08:10 PM   #91
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Really don't like those 'duck' typre trains.
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Old March 29th, 2007, 02:57 AM   #92
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It is a little bit ugly...
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Old March 29th, 2007, 11:59 AM   #93
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Eww, those HiSpeed trains have an ugly ass design

Yeah that grill is fugly or should I say ugly as '****' lol.
Stupid dutch.
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Old March 29th, 2007, 03:31 PM   #94
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Eww, those HiSpeed trains have an ugly ass design

Yeah that grill is fugly or should I say ugly as '****' lol.
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I think its nice to compare all the Europe's HSL trains that drive. It would be nice if somebody had a map of all the existing HSL-lines of europe, Than we could see where all these trains drive.
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Old March 29th, 2007, 05:11 PM   #96
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It is a little bit ugly...

industrial design off the rails! Just like that pendolino virgin crap. Ugly as shit.
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Old March 29th, 2007, 05:25 PM   #97
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I think these Virgin Pendolino's are very nice. It's all a matter of taste...
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Old March 29th, 2007, 06:58 PM   #98
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The yellow and red ***** knob. Or the yellow and Red Tadpole? It looks like some crazy suped up lady beetle from sega's Sonic and Friends.

It breaks so many aesthetic rules.

Taste is however relative and the train is relatively disgusting.
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I agree with chris_underscore47, stupid Dutch!! and yes I'm Dutch.
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Old March 29th, 2007, 08:30 PM   #100
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Thetrains are made by an Italian company, and the trains are not just ordered by the Dutch, but also the Belgians.
Anyway, that grill won't actually be there, it's the place where the coupling will be.
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