Rate Toronto's New 5 Star Hotels

Mollywood · March 31st, 2009, 08:08 PM

I've been hearing lots of Talk about the new luxury hotels going up in Toronto. All are claiming they will be 5 star hotels. From what we know so far, how would you rate these new developments/proposals? Put them in order from #1 to #5. Also which do you think will be REAL five star hotels?

The hotels are:

Trump Hotel in the Business District, Shangra La in the Business District, Ritz Carlton in the Entertainment District, Four Seasons in Yorkville and 1 Bloor Hotel at Yonge St.

Here is my guess.

1 The Four Seasons *****

2 The Ritz Carlton *****

3 Shangra La ****

4 Trump Tower ****

5 1 Bloor E ***

With the slowdown in construction/development threads, we need new posts to keep us busy until things pick up.

So guys, what do you think?

Gil · March 31st, 2009, 09:20 PM

What about the Le St-Germain at Maple Leaf Square?

ale26 · March 31st, 2009, 09:22 PM

You forgot The Hazelton Hotel on Yorkville, that is absolutely gorgeous and is for sure a 5 star!

***Taller, Better*** · March 31st, 2009, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mollywood

Here is my guess.

1 The Four Seasons *****

2 The Ritz Carlton *****

3 Shangra La ****

4 Trump Tower ****

5 1 Bloor E ***

Off the top of my head, I would say that might be a pretty representative
ranking.... smaller hotels like the Hazelton and le St-Germaine might be considered boutique hotels....

monkeyronin · March 31st, 2009, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mollywood

3 Shangra La ****

Considering Vancouver's Shangri-la is a 5-star, and others around the world are some of the most luxurious hotels available, I wouldn't expect anything but 5-star for our SL.

***Taller, Better*** · March 31st, 2009, 10:11 PM

No, I don't think the 1-5 represents stars... I think he means they are all 5 star, but in what order of luxury would we rank them? The Star system of ranking hotels is totally arbitrary these days, especially when a hotel in Dubai bestowed a ridiculous 7 stars on itself, when the system clearly maxes at 5.

TheCharioteer · March 31st, 2009, 11:04 PM

The star system is quite imprecise and generally applies to the number of staff members per room as well as the facilities within the hotel (similar to rating cruise ships). The contradiction comes with scale: a Ritz with its massive ballrooms and business travellers is quite different from a small boutique hotel like The Hempel in London. Both will be 5 star, but The Hempel will definitely feel more "luxe".

If we want to vote on the Toronto hotels architecturally, I think its clear that Trump will be the weakest architecturally. 1 Bloor shouldn't even be on the list as I don't believe a 5-star hotel was ever promised (or is likely). I think both the Ritz and Shangri-La will be quite beautiful. The Four Seasons? Well, let's put it this way: another Peter Clewes glass tower.

Mollywood · April 1st, 2009, 02:37 AM

I figured The Hazelton was already open and St. Germain never made claims to be a 5 star hotel, where as the others all claimed they were going to be 5 star.

I rated them in the order I think they'll rank over-all. (after they are completed and rated by a reputable source) I'm sure all of them wont be 5 star hotels. It will be interesting to see which one gets that status.

***Taller, Better*** · April 1st, 2009, 02:39 AM

The term "5 star" is used broadly, and loosely around the world, and means completely different things as well as sometimes being an outright fib!

CrazyCanuck · April 1st, 2009, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCharioteer

The star system is quite imprecise and generally applies to the number of staff members per room as well as the facilities within the hotel (similar to rating cruise ships). The contradiction comes with scale: a Ritz with its massive ballrooms and business travellers is quite different from a small boutique hotel like The Hempel in London. Both will be 5 star, but The Hempel will definitely feel more "luxe".

If we want to vote on the Toronto hotels architecturally, I think its clear that Trump will be the weakest architecturally. 1 Bloor shouldn't even be on the list as I don't believe a 5-star hotel was ever promised (or is likely). I think both the Ritz and Shangri-La will be quite beautiful. The Four Seasons? Well, let's put it this way: another Peter Clewes glass tower.

I think Trump may surprise us.

WrightTurn · April 1st, 2009, 03:28 AM

Well...as I have been to none of them...

I am guessing that The Four Seasons will be eight-star, Trump minus 275 stars and the others in-between.

Epi · April 1st, 2009, 04:13 AM

I for one can't wait for these hotels to open up and have some more first class restaurants inside them. 5-star hotel means generally a few top restaurants and an awesome bar as well.

Jackhammer · April 1st, 2009, 05:37 AM

We should all be thrilled that we are having this discussion.

rick1016 · April 2nd, 2009, 03:04 AM

Aren't there actually no five star hotels in the city at the moment?

Epi · April 2nd, 2009, 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick1016

Aren't there actually no five star hotels in the city at the moment?

http://www.thehazeltonhotel.com/

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March 31st, 2009, 08:08 PM	#1
Mollywood Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,029 Likes (Received): 14	Rate Toronto's New 5 Star Hotels I've been hearing lots of Talk about the new luxury hotels going up in Toronto. All are claiming they will be 5 star hotels. From what we know so far, how would you rate these new developments/proposals? Put them in order from #1 to #5. Also which do you think will be REAL five star hotels? The hotels are: Trump Hotel in the Business District, Shangra La in the Business District, Ritz Carlton in the Entertainment District, Four Seasons in Yorkville and 1 Bloor Hotel at Yonge St. Here is my guess. 1 The Four Seasons *** 2 The Ritz Carlton * 3 Shangra La 4 Trump Tower 5 1 Bloor E * With the slowdown in construction/development threads, we need new posts to keep us busy until things pick up. So guys, what do you think?

March 31st, 2009, 09:20 PM	#2
Gil Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 982 Likes (Received): 5	What about the Le St-Germain at Maple Leaf Square?

March 31st, 2009, 09:22 PM	#3
ale26 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 787 Likes (Received): 3	You forgot The Hazelton Hotel on Yorkville, that is absolutely gorgeous and is for sure a 5 star!

March 31st, 2009, 11:04 PM	#7
TheCharioteer Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 455 Likes (Received): 0	The star system is quite imprecise and generally applies to the number of staff members per room as well as the facilities within the hotel (similar to rating cruise ships). The contradiction comes with scale: a Ritz with its massive ballrooms and business travellers is quite different from a small boutique hotel like The Hempel in London. Both will be 5 star, but The Hempel will definitely feel more "luxe". If we want to vote on the Toronto hotels architecturally, I think its clear that Trump will be the weakest architecturally. 1 Bloor shouldn't even be on the list as I don't believe a 5-star hotel was ever promised (or is likely). I think both the Ritz and Shangri-La will be quite beautiful. The Four Seasons? Well, let's put it this way: another Peter Clewes glass tower.

April 1st, 2009, 02:37 AM	#8
Mollywood Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,029 Likes (Received): 14	I figured The Hazelton was already open and St. Germain never made claims to be a 5 star hotel, where as the others all claimed they were going to be 5 star. I rated them in the order I think they'll rank over-all. (after they are completed and rated by a reputable source) I'm sure all of them wont be 5 star hotels. It will be interesting to see which one gets that status.

April 1st, 2009, 03:28 AM	#11
WrightTurn Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 367 Likes (Received): 5	Well...as I have been to none of them... I am guessing that The Four Seasons will be eight-star, Trump minus 275 stars and the others in-between.

April 1st, 2009, 04:13 AM	#12
Epi Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,581 Likes (Received): 8	I for one can't wait for these hotels to open up and have some more first class restaurants inside them. 5-star hotel means generally a few top restaurants and an awesome bar as well.

April 1st, 2009, 05:37 AM	#13
Jackhammer The Adjuster Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 870 Likes (Received): 0	We should all be thrilled that we are having this discussion.

April 2nd, 2009, 03:04 AM	#14
rick1016 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Toronto / Melbourne Posts: 1,608 Likes (Received): 0	Aren't there actually no five star hotels in the city at the moment?