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Old August 4th, 2014, 06:38 PM   #461
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How long is the metro now ?
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Old August 5th, 2014, 05:35 AM   #462
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How long is the metro now ?
180.2 km

here's the new map, added S8 and Line 3 (Line 3 will open by year end)


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Old August 5th, 2014, 08:11 AM   #463
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Metro Line S8 opened on August 1

Length: 45.2km
Stations: 17 (6 underground, 11 elevated)
Cost: 14.379 bln yuan
Construction: 26 months
Interchange with U/C Line 3


The train is so beautiful, maybe due to the livery. One of the most beautiful trains.
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Old August 5th, 2014, 08:18 AM   #464
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180.2 km

here's the new map, added S8 and Line 3 (Line 3 will open by year end)


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180.2 km including Line 3 and 10? Line 10 is already opened, isn't it? If so, can I see any pics of its rolling stock?
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Old August 5th, 2014, 09:01 AM   #465
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180.2km is the current length, not including Line 3 which is to be opened by year end.

Yes Line 10 has opened last month. Here's the Line 10's train photo:






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Old August 5th, 2014, 10:28 AM   #466
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The train is so beautiful, maybe due to the livery. One of the most beautiful trains.
It looks very familiar, just can't remember where I've seen a very similar livery...
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Old August 5th, 2014, 03:40 PM   #467
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Big Dog, trains on Line 10 are the same as those on line 1 and 2, am I right? Typical Alstom Metropolis A-type. Or are they a bit modified like those of Shanghai (line 1 and 2)?

And one more question: is Line S1 open yet? If so, what is the stock there?
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Old August 5th, 2014, 04:03 PM   #468
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180.2 km
Strange, I'm missing seven whole kilometers, because according to my data Nanjing metro has 173.3 km. Something is wrong, then...
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Old August 5th, 2014, 06:17 PM   #469
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Are these S lines some chinese cities are adding part of the same network as the main metro system? So that you won't need to check in and out with your metro card 2 times like you must with the german S and U-bahn systems?

I suspect that the metro and S lines follow the same basics as the german dual systems does in general though. With higher speeds on the S lines and further between the stops. Pluss they go further away from the city center?
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Old August 6th, 2014, 12:27 AM   #470
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And one more question: is Line S1 open yet? If so, what is the stock there?
Ya its already opened. I posted pictures of the rolling stock weeks ago. Massive common order. Lines S1, S8 and Line 4 have the same rolling stock. I would also not be surprised if S3 had that type of rolling stock too.

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Nanjing Metro B series trains (lines 4, Ninggao Intercity and Ningtian Intercity)

Ningtian


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Old August 6th, 2014, 01:46 AM   #471
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Old August 6th, 2014, 04:53 AM   #472
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Big Dog, trains on Line 10 are the same as those on line 1 and 2, am I right? Typical Alstom Metropolis A-type. Or are they a bit modified like those of Shanghai (line 1 and 2)?

And one more question: is Line S1 open yet? If so, what is the stock there?
Yes Line 10's train is Alstom Metropolis 6A.

Line S1 opened in July. Train is 6B.

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Are these S lines some chinese cities are adding part of the same network as the main metro system? So that you won't need to check in and out with your metro card 2 times like you must with the german S and U-bahn systems?

I suspect that the metro and S lines follow the same basics as the german dual systems does in general though. With higher speeds on the S lines and further between the stops. Pluss they go further away from the city center?
S lines and other lines are in the same system so people don't have to swipe the card twice.

S lines are just suburban lines with higher speed, longer distance and shorter cars (i.e. 4B).
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Old August 6th, 2014, 05:06 AM   #473
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Strange, I'm missing seven whole kilometers, because according to my data Nanjing metro has 173.3 km. Something is wrong, then...
Here' the length I got from baidu:

Line 1: 39.7km
Line 2: 37.8km
Line 10: 21.6km
Line S1: 35.8km
Line S8: 45.3km

Total: 180.2km
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Old August 6th, 2014, 07:25 AM   #474
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This picture makes the train car look unstable. If the rails were further apart then the train car could travel at higher speeds around turns. If a truck was designed like this, nobody would buy it. In the history of railroads, why didn't engineers space the rails as far apart as the width of the car, aka the loading gauge?
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Old August 6th, 2014, 08:37 AM   #475
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In Russia we have 1520mm track gauge and trains 2.8 m wide. That's more stable.
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This picture makes the train car look unstable. If the rails were further apart then the train car could travel at higher speeds around turns. If a truck was designed like this, nobody would buy it. In the history of railroads, why didn't engineers space the rails as far apart as the width of the car, aka the loading gauge?
It seems that train was on assembly line so I'm not sure if that's the actual wheel and rail for the train.

Line 4 will open in 2015 and below is the finished Line 4 train pics.




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Ya its already opened. I posted pictures of the rolling stock weeks ago. Massive common order. Lines S1, S8 and Line 4 have the same rolling stock. I would also not be surprised if S3 had that type of rolling stock too.
If so, Nanjing will be one of the cities in China with most unified type of stock.
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Old August 6th, 2014, 04:41 PM   #478
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This picture makes the train car look unstable. If the rails were further apart then the train car could travel at higher speeds around turns. If a truck was designed like this, nobody would buy it. In the history of railroads, why didn't engineers space the rails as far apart as the width of the car, aka the loading gauge?
Chinese use Standard Gauge like 60% of the world. The picture shows the train in assembly and the carbody is temporarily sitting on a trolley. The trucks or bogies have not been attached yet.

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I see. In the history of railroads, why wasn't the track gauge made equal to the loading gauge? Wouldn't this make the train safer and allow higher speeds around turns?
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Here' the length I got from baidu:

Line 1: 39.7km
Line 2: 37.8km
Line 10: 21.6km
Line S1: 35.8km
Line S8: 45.3km

Total: 180.2km
I have a file (some kind of map) where I plotted every damn Chinese metro (Mainland only). Here's my breakup:
Line 1: 37.7 km
Line 2: 37.0 km
Line 10: 21.8 km
Line S1: 32.4 km
Line S8: 44.6 km

Total: 173.4 km

Definitely I have something wrong, since I'm 2 km short on Line 1 and 3.5 km on line S1. This leads to the weird situation where the official lenghts show that Nanjing metro is now longer than Shenzhen's, but my data still says it's the other way round! .
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