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Old April 5th, 2009, 03:56 PM   #1
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#VISION: Riverside Entertainment Precinct (incl stadium)

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April 05, 2009 10:30pm

PLANS for a city sports stadium, a Federation Square-style plaza and an entertainment centre have been unveiled by the state Opposition as its vision for Adelaide's city fringe.
The Riverside West plan leaves virtually no area unchanged in a swath of public land and parklands bounded by North Terrace, King William Rd, War Memorial Dr, Port Rd, Henley Beach Rd and West Tce.

The plan involves a new multipurpose sports stadium as its centrepiece, two pedestrian bridges across the Torrens Lake, a relocated entertainment centre, amphitheatre at Elder Park, a science and technology centre, a large plaza and also a second Torrens weir.

Along with the Liberal Party plan to rebuild the RAH at its existing site, the new concept will draw the battlelines for the state election in March next year.

It will compete directly against the State Government's planned $1.7 billion hospital at the railyards, which lie at the heart of the Riverside West site.

"Adelaide needs its `mojo' back and this is the way to do it," Opposition Leader Martin Hamilton-Smith declares in a copy of the policy document supplied to The Advertiser. "South Australians will have the opportunity to have their say (at the election) on March 20, 2010.

"The State Liberals will rebuild and renew the Royal Adelaide Hospital at its existing site and we will put in place more exciting plans for Riverside West.

"This is the other half of the hospital debate – let the debate begin."

If elected in 2010, Mr Hamilton-Smith would begin work on his plan in 2013; the stadium would not be ready until 2018 or 2022, depending on the World Cup soccer bid.

An international competition to design the redevelopment would begin immediately, with the winner announced in 2011 and a master plan released later that year.

Critics will likely focus on the lack of funding and costing – the only money outlined is a $157 million commitment by the State Government for land works at the site.

Based on similar projects in other states, the plan could cost well in excess of $1 billion, but no total costing has been released for Riverside West nor any details of how the money would be raised from private developers.

The Advertiser understands up to four syndicates of private developers have pitched concepts to the Liberals which are compatible with the Riverside West vision and would provide a large component of the funding. Mr Hamilton-Smith said he expected private developers to provide about three-quarters of the funding for the city stadium and around a quarter of the costing for the remainder of the plan.

However, an updated plan, to be released after public consultation, could provide more private-sector opportunities.

Mr Hamilton-Smith said costings would change in the next six months as public consultation shaped the concept plan.

However, yesterday he gave a commitment to release "within weeks" costings and viability for the most significant aspect of Riverside West – the stadium. The Federal Government would be asked to contribute to infrastructure such as railway work and the Adelaide City Council to parks works.

A relocated entertainment centre, next to the Morphett St bridge, would be able to host both concerts and major exhibitions, capitalising on its proximity to the existing convention centre.

Mr Hamilton-Smith said now was the time to plan for the years following the economic downturn and likened the Riverside West redevelopment to Melbourne's Docklands, Sydney's Darling Harbour and Brisbane's Southbank.

"Now is the time for vision and excitement about where we are heading in the next period of growth," he said.

"Too often governments get paralysed by economic downturns, or miss opportunities from upturns.

"Now is the time to plan and begin a project that will deliver pride in our city, jobs in our city and a legacy for our city.










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Old April 5th, 2009, 04:47 PM   #2
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Link to the S-A thread, you'll be hearing ALOT more about this soon.
http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/...php?f=7&t=2338
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Old April 5th, 2009, 05:02 PM   #3
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Well its a start, 2010 election is sure going to be interesting.


This is interesting
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From my understanding, this is just one phase of Riverside. Other options can/will include, relocation of Adelaide Velodrome to the CBD, possibly more commercial space for organisations looking for expansion (e.g. Adelaide Convention Centre, Skycity etc), 5 star hotels, a new science centre, relocation of keswick station to a new CBD station, even a small monorail. How would it all be paid for? Take velodrome for example, you sell land at the velodrome at today's prices, and you're looking at hundreds of millions of dollars... do that over a few sites (e.g. other stadiums in SA), and you kill two birds with the one stone ... that is you solve the Housing crisis we have, and bring everything into new facilities in the CBD. The private partnership scheme could be setup similar to how the Crown precinct was built. Bingo... a new entertainment precinct that pays for itself. Together with the costs saved by not building a new hospital but redeveloping the current RAH, you've saved another billion dollars right there. Really is a no brainer.
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Old April 5th, 2009, 10:58 PM   #4
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when they say 'relocated entertainment centre'... where's the old one?
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Old April 6th, 2009, 12:27 AM   #5
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What you see there is part of a vision for the Riverside Entertainment Precinct, some things you just can't put in before an election but you can rest assured they're being talked about. E.g. didn't one organisation say they wanted to move from an old railway last week? Timing is uncanny isn't it.
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Old April 6th, 2009, 01:25 AM   #6
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when they say 'relocated entertainment centre'... where's the old one?
The existing entertainment centre is located a few kilometres from the city in a suburb called Hindmarsh.
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Old April 6th, 2009, 07:44 AM   #7
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wow. sure beats the hospital labor are proposing for that site.
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Old April 6th, 2009, 08:35 AM   #8
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Are you trying to tell me the opposition in SA are actually proposing things? Vote them in, QUICK!!!

Would be the most active state opposition in Australia, IMO.
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Old April 6th, 2009, 08:45 AM   #9
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Why has UniSA City West all of a sudden become high rise central?
Cheap and nasty... The stadium is just a cut and paste jobbie of Etihad (or whatever it is called this week).
I mean I know they are concept plans but they are really nasty concept plans.
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I am a bit bitter I think. I believe there is more of a chance of my dick falling off than this happening. Sure would be AWESOME and attract more awesome to the state!
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Great concept.....moving the Ent Cent and the stadium to this location is a great idea.
Like the walkway connecting the Railway Station to the Convention Centre and on to the Ent Centre.
Had a chuckle at the hi-rise towers built and u/c along North and West Tce..pretty sure many of them breach current ACC height limits for that area.....but y'know.
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Why are they using Telstra?
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Old April 6th, 2009, 01:28 PM   #13
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What stadium is that Mo?
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What stadium is that Mo?
My design instead of Telstra Dome.
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I really love that design Mo Rush how did you design it?
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I really love that design Mo Rush how did you design it?
sketchup. in 20 minutes. i just grabbed the telstra dome bowl but changed the rest.
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Old April 13th, 2009, 07:59 AM   #18
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My design instead of Telstra Dome.
well done. When i first looked at it i scratched my head for about 15 minutes trying to work out if i have seen it before lol

But the opposition wouldn't be proposing an exact duplicate of Dockland's stadium anyway. The renders above are just an example of what could be proposed. They would have used Docklands due to it being the most state of the art stadium in the country.
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This is a rough idea I drew up for a 60 000 seat multipurpose Stadium over the Adelaide rail yards.
Australian Football set up has the same field dimensions as ANZ Stadium (160m / 118m).

Soccer Field (105m / 68m) is a maximum of 13m from the fence on the wings and 18m on the goal ends.

Basic cross-section to illustrate the moveable ground tier.

Plans of the ground tier in both configurations


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I would be curious to know what the minimum field demensions for Australian rules football are.

Would be interesting to see if a stadium could be built without the complexity/extra cost of movable tiers.
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