KAMLOOPS | Sedric's Adventure Resort & Theme Park | Canceled

[Kamlooper]

Apparently Thomas and his wife were taken to a legal hearing and Thomas had a judgement awarded against him. It seems of the many things he did during his fiasco with water park was borrow $15,000 off of one of the developers and then refuse to pay him back. This is the way he treats people after conning them into trusting him.
Fortunately the judge didn't buy any of Aubrey's stories and placed a judgement against him for $15,000.

If everyone else scammed by Thomas were to step forward the community of Kamloops would have a far better understanding of what happened and be alot better off knowing.

[geesh]

Has anyone else heard, like I have, that this project is being reworked behind the scenes with new investors? Just putting out there what I have heard "through the grapevine". Anyone?

[Tasha58]

Originally Posted by Kamlooper

Apparently Thomas and his wife were taken to a legal hearing and Thomas had a judgement awarded against him. It seems of the many things he did during his fiasco with water park was borrow $15,000 off of one of the developers and then refuse to pay him back. This is the way he treats people after conning them into trusting him.
Fortunately the judge didn't buy any of Aubrey's stories and placed a judgement against him for $15,000.

If everyone else scammed by Thomas were to step forward the community of Kamloops would have a far better understanding of what happened and be alot better off knowing.

I know of three people that believed Aubrey and put in money. Same thing, they have not received a thing from Aubrey--including returning phone calls. In fact one fella even did some work for Aubrey on his house(for a paltry $150), and Aubrey stiffed him. It is quite apparent that Aubrey never pays his bills (unless forced ie: hydro) and never pays back loans. Pretty slimy guy if you ask me.

[Tasha58]

Apparently the fellow who lent Aubrey the money had to undergo a sudden and unexpected severe medical treatment that made it difficult to go to work--something like chemo. This fellow explained to aubrey that he needed the money he lent him to be returned to survive this medical emergency. aubrey, even-though he was collecting tens of thousands from others--continually claimed he didn't have any money. To this day Aubrey has not returned a penny to anyone he borrowed from and has no remorse. He is an extremely cold fish--devoid of normal human empathy or compassion.

[Kamlooper]

This is a typical example of how unbeleivably low this scumbag is. I am really surprised Ken Ellerbeck's name hasn't come up in all of this. This guy is in thick with Thomas and shows up at meetings with him and participates on the board of directors of Aubrey's con job companies.
The best way to deter scum from preying on the backbone of society is to spread the word on these forums because the justice system is skewed in favor of fraudsters and con artists. I have heard the only thing Aubrey spends any real amount of his fraudulant money on is advice from his lawyer Doug Springford. The rest of his ill gotten gains just dissapear into the Aubrey black hole. This guy is completely devoid of any conscience or humanity.

[Rhino]

Who exactly is Aubrey? Other then this pipe dream, I have never heard of him.

[Kamlooper]

Originally Posted by Rhino

Who exactly is Aubrey? Other then this pipe dream, I have never heard of him.

Thomas Aubrey is a Kamloops resident con artist who puts informational feelers or representations to draw people into his schemes. None of his ideas are original. He uses or assumes other people's ideas and it doesn't mattter if they have previously failed or not. He befriends his prey by developing a false relationship based on trust and uses various tricks and names to draw more people in as the con job accelerates. Using a high trust level as an excuse, minimal transactions or agreements are ever in writing. Once he has convinced unsuspecting people that he is genuine and the project is a likely winner he offers up shares and starts bringing in the cash. With this momentum underway his greed has no limits and he borrows money from a close associate in the project to get him over a small hump and then refuses to pay them back.
Around this time he is blaming everyone else for everything that has gone wrong with the project forcing reputable people to chose to fight or walk away and wash their hands of his nasty world.
The sad thing is most people are too embarrassed to admit they have been taken and will say and do nothing allowing him to move onto his next con job without a track record or any concequences.
He is someone you want to stay far away from as possible.

[Rhino]

Does anyone know anything about Why Doug Wittal is still saying he’s going ahead with this project on his own? There is still info and photos on the DW web site pertaining to Sedrics.

[Tasha58]

It does amaze me that Aubrey continues to use the same bs to usurp another land site. Now he is trying to find 2 million to finance an 80 acre site that has all the same elements (aubrey hasn't the guts to say it is him on the website, but it has all the same elements and all the typical aubrey earmarkings, you know grammatical mistakes, outlandish statements...you'll see by reading it--and furthermore, the likelyhood of someone else doing an exact development like this with the same unprofessional fashion is nil!!!...read on.)

The website claims that management is in place, financing is in place, everything is just hunky-dory, but like Sedric's, nothing has been properly done--environmental studies, geotech..., archeological, permits etc. Here is what the website says...

Largest development of its kind in northwest North America. Now open to third party ownership for first time. Equity partner/ownership interest available respecting a 17-acre world-class water park and associated resort and commercial real estate development (total of 5 phases, +/- 70 acres approx. total - leased lands). One of a kind location in strong travel and tourism corridor in British Columbia, Canada.

Investment required $2 million (CDN) and up – pricing based on construction costs only (future investors will pay earnings multiples on top). Lender financing is pre-arranged, and construction program ready to roll for 2010 start.

Total build costs for water park estimated $30 million. Annual revenue for water park projected in excess of $15 million by third full year of operation (2013), projected EBITDA (water park element only) $12 million plus, in third year and beyond.

Fully elaborated master plan available, principal contractors and key management in place. Marketing program launched.

Master plan provides a combination of water rides, water activities, shopping, entertainment, dining, arena and hotels all in one accessible site. Executive golf and RV park elements also available for investment. Revenue streams for entire project to include:

• Ticket Revenues
• Food and Beverage
• cabana and equipment rentals
• Merchandising and Retail
• Licensing and Sponsorship Agreements
• Parking and Transportation
• Property Management

This is a world-class attraction in a uniquely well-suited location. Inquire for more information about this development.

I'll bet there is nothing in place but another set of promises...then, once the money is in, come the excuses...probably endangered Sasquatches this time...

[Rhino]

Has Sedric's dried up for good?

It was first announced during a splashy news conference at Thompson Rivers University in April 2009 — but, nearly two years later, there is no water-themed park in Kamloops.

However, one of the partners involved in the initial project still hopes to bring a water park to the Tournament Capital.*

Doug Wittal of DW Builders said his company is still pursuing a water park, noting the project is still in the “working stages.

“We’re working on things behind the scenes,” he said.

Wittal wouldn’t provide details on the project, but said he hopes to have more concrete answers in the spring of 2011.

In April 2009, a group led by Wittal and entrepreneur Thomas Aubrey announced plans to build Sedric’s Adventure Resort and Theme Park.

The venture was to have sprawled across 45 acres on the south side of Highway 5 — across from Sun Rivers — that, when complete, would have offered a water park, hotel, arena, commercial space and conference centre.

The original plan was to start construction in the summer of 2009, according to its proponents.

But, the project, which was pegged at $250 million, has been plagued by controversy since it was first announced.

The group, which originally said it had private investors from outside of Canada, wasn’t able to secure the funding it hoped to receive from the federal government.

Then came word Ragan Creative — the company that created the development’s website, Sedrics.com — hadn’t been paid and was pulling the cyberspace plug.

Next came news TRU had not been paid the rental-hall fee for the press conference.

Sedric’s fell further into tumult after a silent partner, Bryan Wickham, revealed the project had no funding in place and had been mishandled by Aubrey.

Wittal said his group is no longer working with Aubrey and indicated the revised water park on which he is working will operate under a different name.

* and the joke continues, Please Doug... Let it die already. Here's an idea, buy and renovate the old water park in Dallas. The ground work in already there and it would take in my opinion , minimal cash to get it opperating again. You would have a cash cow in your hands with the long hot days of a Kamloops summer laying ahead of us.

[Spoolmak]

True he should do something maybe a little smaller seeing as how it would have more of a chance of coming to life, but not in the old Dallas park. That place was tiny. The hill the water slides were on were smaller than the hill I learned to snowboard on when I was 6

[Tasha58]

IMHO the ONLY way to go is big, otherwise how do you attract more people to the area? I thing DW is on the right track--go big or go home.

[Tasha58]

Originally Posted by Tasha58

IMHO the ONLY way to go is big, otherwise how do you attract more people to the area? I believe DW is on the right track--go big or go home.

Haven't heard much at all about this. Still see this as a good idea...Doug? Anybody out there?

[Kamlooper]

Originally Posted by Tasha58

Haven't heard much at all about this. Still see this as a good idea...Doug? Anybody out there?

Hi there. Unfortunately the Thomas Aubrey involvment has left its ugly mark and I doubt anyone will touch this one for quite some time. A discussion of how things got so bad did come up the other day and I was pointed to this below.... I previously thought the following was confined to the likes of mass murderers etc so this was truly a learning experience.

These are some of the most highly researched and recognized characteristics of psychopathic personality and behavior.

- glibness/superficial charm

- grandiose sense of self worth

- pathological lying

- conning/manipulative

- lack of remorse or guilt

- shallow emotional response

- callous/lack of empathy

- parasitic lifestyle

- irresponsibility

- criminal versatility

The list goes on but the point was made by this time.

[Tasha58]

So why would a place like Moore's hire him to sell suits??/

[Kamlooper]

Moores is in for a rude awakening one day. It will not end well.

[Tasha58]

Yes I guess Moore's will have to learn like everyone else...

[Tasha58]

Originally Posted by Kamlooper

Hi there. Unfortunately the Thomas Aubrey involvment has left its ugly mark and I doubt anyone will touch this one for quite some time. A discussion of how things got so bad did come up the other day and I was pointed to this below.... I previously thought the following was confined to the likes of mass murderers etc so this was truly a learning experience.

These are some of the most highly researched and recognized characteristics of psychopathic personality and behavior.

- glibness/superficial charm

- grandiose sense of self worth

- pathological lying

- conning/manipulative

- lack of remorse or guilt

- shallow emotional response

- callous/lack of empathy

- parasitic lifestyle

- irresponsibility

- criminal versatility

The list goes on but the point was made by this time.

So you're saying this is what Thomas Aubrey is like?