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Old August 24th, 2011, 07:08 AM   #141
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Good overview. Btw I think the situation in the Balkans is alarming. The airports in general also offer from SA monopoly. Let me just point out a few. If you fly into Belgrade, Serbia from Canada, you can easly find a ticket for $1000 in the summer. That's due to good competition. Now take a look at this. If You decide to fly to Sarajevo, which is SA monopoly cashcow, You wont be able to get anything cheaper then $2000. What makes it even more crazy is that SJJ is closer towards the Western EU.... Let alone that you get much better service when you fly Sky Team airlines that serve Belgrade.
I was thinking along a similar line as well and if you specifically talk about SJJ then yeah, it's a full-on SA fest down there. Jat would be a good candidate for future ST addition as the airline already has 4-5 interline agreements with ST carriers. If ST wants to create a strong presence and break the SA monopoly in Balkans, they should not only recruit Jat, but also airlines such as Montenegro Airlines and Ukraine International for that matter.
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Old August 24th, 2011, 10:47 AM   #142
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I was thinking along a similar line as well and if you specifically talk about SJJ then yeah, it's a full-on SA fest down there. Jat would be a good candidate for future ST addition as the airline already has 4-5 interline agreements with ST carriers. If ST wants to create a strong presence and break the SA monopoly in Balkans, they should not only recruit Jat, but also airlines such as Montenegro Airlines and Ukraine International for that matter.
Very true, such as; AF, KL, RO, SU, AZ.... Having in mind that Serbia has a good relations with China, it would be a dream to see China Southern work out a deal/code share agreement and get JAT to feed their traffic.

On top of all that, Belgrade airport has a very good geographic lacation. I also would not exclude the old Terminal 2 that was refurbished back in 2006. We are talking about the Airport of 7.5M capacity...16 jetways... Here is a presentation that I have created not long ago.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1433056
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Old August 24th, 2011, 10:52 AM   #143
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I really like having Tarom in ST, but the geographic location of Bucharest is not so good. It may do you some good if you want to take a flight from the Balkans to Dubai or TLV. One thing that I like about Jat, they have strong network in the Nordic countries. That's what Tarom is missing.
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Old August 24th, 2011, 12:00 PM   #144
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That makes sense. Connecting Eastern Europe with China and the Middle East would be a good move for ST. Yet they still have a big gap in Central Asia, which Uzbek Airlines or Air Astana would hopefully fill. And again, even if Jat has a strong network in the Nordic, ST should still recruit a member from that region. ST seriously has a lot of gaps to fill in order to level themselves with SA.
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Old August 25th, 2011, 12:37 AM   #145
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Yeah I just went on Tiblisi Airport thread, I noticed that they have managed to lure China Southern... That is 700K traffic a year volume... BEG is on it's way to handle well over 3Mil.. So it's time to wake up hehe.
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Old August 25th, 2011, 03:18 AM   #146
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Btw, what's so bad about Air India?
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Old August 25th, 2011, 05:33 AM   #147
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Well there was an AI pilot strike a while ago...

They didn't get into SA
http://articles.economictimes.indiat...ember-airlines
So why should ST get the SA-reject?

If you read the reviews of AI on the skytrax website, you'll get some picture of AI service.


On a lighter, funnier and slightly-out-of-topic note, Here's a video on why you shouldn't fly with AI, from 1:10 - 2:00
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Old August 25th, 2011, 06:46 AM   #148
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Btw, what are some of the ST REQUIREMENTS to be met in order to get in the alliance?
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Old August 25th, 2011, 11:11 AM   #149
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Besides those code-sharing ageements with SKY TEAM memebers, Jat is also using ST lounges. Here is a review what they say..

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LHR-Belgrade-LHR in business. Alitalia lounge at Heathrow was quiet and pleasant, with adequate facilities. Onboard the 737 business was in a dedicated cabin, with three rows of seats in a 2x2 config. These are old-style first class seats with plenty of leg room. Pre-flight juice and water offered, sparkling wine on request. FA’s busy and courteous. Food ordinary airline food served in massive portions – a Serbian characteristic. Crew generous with wine and other drinks. Cabin was full but with all that space you hardly noticed. All in all it made me nostalgic for the days when most business classes in Europe were like this – ie a sufficiently different experience to warrant the higher price. JAT’s price is roughly £500 as opposed to BA £800 on the same route. Only slight disappointment was the funereal business lounge at Belgrade (tatty purple leather sofas), but even that offered a waitress service of drinks and snacks. Would definitely fly JAT business again.
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Old August 25th, 2011, 03:09 PM   #150
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Hey Guys When Saudi Arabian Airlines To Be a Sky Team Member??? cant wait For it
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Old September 10th, 2011, 01:40 AM   #151
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SkyTeam offer for Air India
KARAN CHOUDHURY


New Delhi, Aug. 22: SkyTeam — the world’s No. 2 international airline alliance — has approached Air India with a membership offer following Star Alliance’s decision to keep out the national carrier from the global grouping.

According to officials in the ministry of civil aviation, the SkyTeam delegation, led by managing director Michael Wisbrun, met civil aviation secretary Nasim Zaidi last week and expressed interest in making the national carrier part of its alliance.

In the aftermath of the Star Alliance fiasco, Air India has been approached by both SkyTeam as well as Oneworld with membership proposals and the offer to help the national carrier improve its international operations.

“SkyTeam is one of the alliances that have approached us. Thanks to our preparations to join Star Alliance, we revamped our working on a par with the standards of any international body. We do not have any problems in joining SkyTeam and will consider its proposal seriously. But at the same time we are open to talks with Star Alliance if they want to restart a dialogue,” a senior ministry official said.

SkyTeam — founded in 2000 by Aeroméxico, Air France, Delta Air Lines and Korean Air — is the last of the three airline alliances to be formed.

It has grown to become the second largest global alliance in terms of passengers and members, behind Star Alliance and ahead of Oneworld.

The alliance consists of 14 carriers, including Al Italia, KLM and Delta Air Lines, from four continents and flies to 916 airports in 169 countries. It operates over 14,000 daily flights with a combined fleet of 3,400 aircraft, including associate carriers.

It has 465 lounges worldwide to serve its 474 million annual passengers. SkyTeam also runs a separate cargo alliance — SkyTeam Cargo — which partners nine carriers who are all SkyTeam members.
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Old September 10th, 2011, 11:43 PM   #152
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Who would be next to join in Asia?

- Malaysia Airlines
- Garuda Indonesia
I know Malaysia Airlines and Garuda are working intensively with KLM for the last years.

But I think in the future on the South Asian routes Malaysian Airlines and Garuda will be more successfully then KLM.

KLM is flying to Indonesia since 1924, currently KLM is flying daily to Jakarta, Denpasar and Kuala Lumpur. Indonesia is a very popular holiday country for the Dutch tourist and currently there are 400.000 Indo-Dutch people living in the Netherlands who often goes to Indonesia. I've notice Malaysian Airlines is increasing popularity. The service is better then KLM (Malaysian has personal entertainment set) and next year Malaysian Airlines is going to use the A380 to Schiphol.

Yes Malaysian and Garuda should join Skyteam, but I think KLM will lose passengers on these routes.

But correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old September 11th, 2011, 07:21 AM   #153
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Yes Malaysian and Garuda should join Skyteam, but I think KLM will lose passengers on these routes.
Malaysia Airlines will be joining Oneworld. Since GA is joining ST KLM should focus more in interlining with GA instead of MH.
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Old November 7th, 2011, 04:46 PM   #154
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Old November 8th, 2011, 05:55 PM   #155
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I think KLM(Sky Team) just pushed Lufthansa out of Calgary. Good news for KLM.
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Old November 8th, 2011, 07:13 PM   #156
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Btw what's going on with WestJet from Canada? I have been told they feed traffic from Canada to KLM and other ST crew..
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Old November 10th, 2011, 05:33 AM   #157
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JAT Airways not giving up without a fight

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Huge October growth for Jat


In October Serbia’s Jat Airways welcomed 107.624 passengers onboard its flights, an impressive increase of 23% compared to the same month last year. During the month the airline also welcomed its millionth passenger of the year who was travelling from Amsterdam to Belgrade. The average cabin load factor stood at 74%, an increase of 16 points compared to 2010. The good results were recorded despite a fall in the number of operated flights, down 4% on the same month last year.

Compared to October 2010, the state carrier saw a 34% increase in the number of passengers travelling to and from Montenegro, 22% on Euro Mediterranean services and for the first time this year Jat also recorded passenger growth on charter flights. However, it should be noted that this growth stood only at 1%, aided by an increase in the number of charter flights operated during the month.

In the first ten months of the year, Jat handled a total of 1.063.725 passengers, an increase of 15% with an average cabin load factor of 70%. The airline has surpassed its 2010 end of year result. Driving the increase in passenger numbers, despite wide competition, are constant promotional ticket sales being offered by the carrier. While the promotions have generated more sales they are also expected to generate more financial losses come year’s end.
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Old November 18th, 2011, 09:47 PM   #158
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SkyTeam to continue increasing its dominance in China; to welcome a third fourth Chinese Carrier, Xiamen Airlines (owned by China Souther), to its portfolio.

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Alliance strengthens its China position in a thriving economic region
Amsterdam, 17 November – SkyTeam, the global airline alliance, today formally accepted the joining of Xiamen Airlines into the alliance. China’s fifth largest airline, Xiamen Airlines begins the joining process leading to full entry into SkyTeam by the end of 2012, further strengthening the alliance offer in the flourishing southeast China region.

Based in Xiamen, a coastal city in East China's Fujian province, Xiamen Airlines operates a network of domestic and regional services throughout China and Asia, predominantly from the hub airports of Xiamen, Fuzhou and Hangzhou. Fujian is one of the more prosperous provinces in China with diverse industries such as clothing, tea production and electronics. Tourism has seen very strong growth and is one of the highlights in the region’s economy.

While currently over 90% of the network is domestic, Xiamen Airlines’ goal is to boost its international traffic by expanding the network to serve major long-haul destinations in Australia, Europe and North America, starting in 2014.

The integration of Xiamen Airlines into SkyTeam will be fully supported by major shareholder China Southern, the first Chinese airline that joined SkyTeam in 2007.

“SkyTeam has long recognized the region’s huge economic potential, resulting in our #1 position in Greater China. Xiamen Airlines’ membership in SkyTeam will strengthen our offer in the southeastern part of China and the cross-strait markets,” said SkyTeam Managing Director Michael Wisbrun. “And while we further capitalize on the expanding network, our members in China will work together to enhance alliance-wide benefits for our customers.”

“With the accelerated globalization of the world economy and China’s rapid economic development, Xiamen Airlines will further enhance its competitive edge in the coming years by becoming a first-class airline in the Asia-Pacific region,” said Xiamen Airlines President Che Shanglun. “Membership in SkyTeam will enable us to expand our intercontinental network offering, in cooperation with our partners in the alliance.”

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About SkyTeam
SkyTeam is a global airline alliance providing customers from member airlines access to an extensive global network with more destinations, more frequencies and more connectivity. Passengers can earn and redeem Frequent Flyer Miles throughout the SkyTeam network. SkyTeam member airlines offer customers over 490 lounges worldwide. The fifteen members are: Aeroflot, Aeroméxico, Air Europa, Air France, Alitalia, China Airlines, China Eastern, China Southern, Czech Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Kenya Airways, KLM Royal Dutch Airlines, Korean Air, TAROM and Vietnam Airlines. SkyTeam offers its 487 million annual customers globally over 14,500 daily flights to 926 destinations in 173 countries.
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About Xiamen Airlines
Xiamen Airlines, based in Southeastern China and established on July 25, 1984, operates over 150 routes from its main hubs in Xiamen, Fuzhou and Hangzhou, covering most major and medium-sized cities in Greater China (including Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan) as well as main cities in Southeast and Northeast Asia. Xiamen Airlines is the fifth largest Chinese carrier in terms of domestic seats. Currently the airline operates a fleet of 78 aircraft, carrying 13.6 million customers (2010). According to the next five-year plan, by 2015 Xiamen Airlines will own 136 aircraft (including 6 B787s), carrying over 30 million passengers. www.xiamenair.com.cn (currently Chinese only)
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Old November 21st, 2011, 01:43 AM   #159
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Just a correction: Xiamen Airlines is not owned by CZ, as CZ only owns 60% of the airline. If it was owned by CZ, it would be like Shanghai Airlines: an airline owned by MU with no independent membership in SkyTeam.
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SkyTeam Member Airlines Co-Locate in Beijing Capital Airport’s Terminal 2

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