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View Poll Results: Which city has a better skyline?
New York City 165 61.80%
Chicago 102 38.20%
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Old May 1st, 2009, 03:59 AM   #261
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Northsider, Pokistic, Balenciaga

Way to bring the thread back...you guys rock.

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You are out of line with the "second city syndrome" talk. Untrue and uncalled for. I will kindly ask you to cool it. Think...friendly competition.

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Weak points on amounts of posts and membership for New York and Chicago. Those numbers are totally irrelevant to a thread dealing with a personal preference. That's like saying all the Chicagoans in here choose Chicago over NY and vise versa.

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"Why is it so hard to accept that people prefer New York's skyline and architecture?" now you are just generalizing.
That is such a baseless comment...and how would you prove that? A popularity poll with a clickable link? Please spare us and stop antagonizing the other members with snide questions. All this talk about second, third city syndrome isn't helping your case of superiority-complex-denial. Quit bashing. Oh and one last thing; don't go ahead and make a statement on behalf of "most" of us nyers--most don't give a crap about skylines and buildings and those of us that appreciate them, know Chicago is no slouch to New York. I'll ask you very nicely to stop inflaming arguments.

Since you're apparently now the nanny of this particular thread, I find it interesting how you conveniently skipped the other ridiculous posts by your Chicago friend basically calling us ignorant to the subject because we're "internationals" (and because Chicago is performing terribly on this poll).

Why?
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Old May 1st, 2009, 04:21 AM   #262
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That is such a baseless comment...and how would you prove that? A popularity poll with a clickable link?
Why yes, there is!!!!

America's Favorite Buildings - AIA Polling of the Public

http://www.favoritearchitecture.org/

A New York City building is #1, and New York City the most dominant city when viewing the results. Chicago is barely mentioned. I think it's fair to make an assumption that the world's public prefers New York City's architecture/skyline. Although, I'm sure this list is gabage to some of our fellow Chicago crybabies since [insert single random washed up "expert"] thinks otherwise. But who knows? Maybe people just don't care enough about Chicago to take notice of their superior (LOL!) buildings?

Anyway, to the results.....

RANK BUILDING STATE ARCHITECT YEAR COMPLETED FUNCTION

1 Empire State Building NY - New York Shreve, Lamb & Harmon 1931 Skyscraper
2 The White House DC - Washington Hoban, James et al. 1792 Govt.
3 Washington National Cathedral DC - Washington George F. Bodley and Henry Vaughan 1990 Religious
4 Thomas Jefferson Memorial DC - Washington Pope, John Russell 1943 Memorial/Monument
5 Golden Gate Bridge CA - San Francisco Joseph B. Strauss (Engineer) Irving F. Morrow and Gertrude C. Morrow (Architects) 1937 Bridge
6 US Capitol DC - Washington William Thorton, Benjamin Henry Labtrobe, Charles Bulfinch, Thomas U. Walter, Montgomery C. Meigs 1865 Govt.
7 Lincoln Memorial DC - Washington Bacon, Henry 1922 Memorial/Monument
8 Biltmore Estates/Vanderbilt Residence NC - Ashville Hunt, Richard Morris 1895 Residence
9 Chrysler Building NY - New York Van Alen, William 1930 Skyscraper
10 Vietnam Veterans Memorial DC - Washington Maya Lin in association with Cooper-Lecky Partnership 1982 Memorial/Monument
11 St. Patrick's Cathedral NY - New York Renwick, James 1878 Religious
12 Washington Monument DC - Washington Mills, Robert 1884 Memorial/Monument
13 Grand Central Station NY - New York Reed and Stern and Warren and Wetmore 1913 Transit
14 Gateway Arch MO - St. Louis Saarinen, Eero 1965 Memorial/Monument
15 Supreme Court of the United States DC - Washington Gilbert, Cass 1935 Govt.
16 St. Regis NY - New York Trowbridge & Livingston 1904 Hotel
17 Metropolitan Museum of Art NY - New York Vaux, Calvert et al. 1880 Museum
18 Hotel Del Coronado CA - San Diego Reid, James 1888 Hotel
19 World Trade Center NY - New York Yamasaki, Minoru 1973 Skyscraper
20 Brooklyn Bridge NY - New York Roebling, John Augustus 1883 Bridge
21 Philadelphia City Hall PA - Philadelphia McArthur, Jr., John 1881 Govt.
22 Bellagio Hotel and Casino NV - Las Vegas Jerde Partnership with Deruyter Butler and Atlandia Design 1998 Hotel
23 Cathedral of St. John the Divine NY - New York Heins & La Farge and Ralph Adams Cram Religious (unfinished)
24 Philadelphia Museum of Art PA - Philadelphia Trumbauer, Horace 1928 Museum
25 Trinity Church MA - Boston Richardson, Henry Hobson 1877 Religious
26 Ahwanee Hotel CA - Yosemite Valley Underwood, Gilbert Stanley 1928 Hotel
27 Monticello VA - Charlottesville Jefferson, Thomas 1808 Residence
28 Library of Congress DC - Washington John L. Smithmeyer and Paul J. Pelz 1897 Govt./Library
29 Falling Water/Edgar J. Kaufmann Sr. Residence PA -Bear Run Wright, Frank Lloyd 1935 Residence
30 Taliesin East WI - Spring Green Wright, Frank Lloyd 1911 Residence
31 Wrigley Field - Chicago, IL IL -Chicago Davis, Zachary Taylor 1914 Sports
32 Wanamaker's Department Store PA - Philadelphia Burnham, Daniel 1909 Retail
33 Rose Center for Earth and Space - American Museum of Natural History, Museum of Natural History NY - New York Polshek Partnership 2000 Museum
34 National Gallery of Art (West Wing) DC - Washington Pope, John Russell 1941 Museum
35 Allegheny Country Courthouse PA - Pittsburgh Richardson, Henry Hobson 1886 Govt.
36 Old Faithful Inn WY - Yellowstone National Park Reamer, Robert 1927 Hotel
37 Union Station DC - Washington Burnham, Daniel 1903 Transit
38 Tribune Tower IL - Chicago Howells & Hood 1925 Skyscraper
39 Delano Hotel FL - Miami Beach Swartburg, Robert 1947 Hotel
40 Union Station MO -St. Louis Link, Theodore C. 1894 Transit
41 Hearst Residence CA - San Simeon Morgan, Julia 1947 Residence
42 Sears Tower IL - Chicago Skidmore, Owings & Merrill (Bruce Graham) 1974 Skyscraper
43 Crane Library MA - Qunicy Richardson, Henry Hobson 1882 Library
44 Cincinnati Union Terminal OH - Cincinnati Alfred Fellheimer and Stewart Wagner, consulting architect Paul Philippe Cret 1933 Transit
45 Woolworth Building NY - New York Gilbert, Cass 1913 Skyscraper
46 Waldorf Astoria NY - New York Schultze & Weaver 1931 Hotel
47 New York Public Library NY - New York Carrere & Hastings 1911 Library
48 Carnegie Hall NY - New York Tuthill, William B. 1891 Auditorium
49 San Francisco City Hall CA - San Francisco Brown, Jr., Arthur 1915 Govt.
50 Virginia State Capitol VA - Richmond Jefferson, Thomas 1788 Govt.
51 Cadet Chapel - Air Force Academy CO - Colorado Springs Skidmore Owings & Merill (Walter Netsch) 1962 Govt./Religious
52 Field Museum of Natural History IL -Chicago Atwood, Charles B. 1893 Museum
53 Apple - 5th Avenue NY - New York Bohlin Cywinski Jackson 2006 Retail
54 Furness Library - University of Pennsylvania PA - Philadelphia Furness, Frank 1888 Library
55 Mauna Kea Beach Hotel HI - Kohala Coast (the Big Island) Skidmore, Owings & Merrill 1867 Hotel
56 Rockefeller Center NY - New York Hood, Raymond, et. al. 1940 Skyscraper
57 Denver International Airport CO - Denver Fentress Bradburn Architects 1995 Transit
58 Ames Library MA - North Easton Richardson, Henry Hobson 1879 Library
59 Milwaukee Art Museum WI - Milwaukee Calatrava, Santiago 2001 Museum
60 Thorncrown Chapel AR - Eureka Springs Jones, E. Fay 1980 Religious
61 TransAmerica Building CA - San Francisco Pereira, William 1972 Skyscraper
62 333 Wacker Drive IL - Chicago Kohn Pedersen Fox 1983 Skyscraper
63 Smithsonian National Air & Space Museum DC - Washington Hellmuth, Obata + Kasabaum (Gyo Obata) 1976 Museum
64 Faneuil Hall Marketplace MA - Boston Thompson, Benjamin (Renovation) 1978 Retail
65 Crystal Cathedral CA -Garden Grove Johnson, Philip 1980 Religious
66 Gamble House CA - Pasadena Greene and Greene 1908 Residence
67 Nebraska State Capital NE - Lincoln Bertram Grosvenor Goodhue 1932 Govt.
68 New York Times Building NY - New York Piano, Renzo 2007 Skyscraper
69 Salt Lake City Public Library UT - Salt Lake City Moshe Safdie and VCBO Architecture Associates 2003 Library
70 Dolphin and Swan - Walt Disney World FL - Orlando (Lake Buena Vista) Graves, Michael 1990 Hotel
71 Hearst Tower NY - New York Foster, Norman 2006 Skyscraper
72 Flatiron Building/Fuller Building NY - New York Burnham, Daniel 1903 Skyscraper
73 Lake Point Tower IL - Chicago George Schipporeit and John Heinrick 1968 Skyscraper
74 Guggenheim Museum NY - New York Wright, Frank Lloyd 1959 Museum
75 Union Station CA - Los Angeles Parkinson, John and Donald B. 1939 Transit
76 Willard Hotel DC - Washington Hardenbergh, Henry Janeway 1901 Hotel
77 Sever Hall MA - Cambridge Richardson, Henry Hobson 1880 Auditorium
78 Broadmoor Hotel CO - Colorado Springs Warren & Wetmore 1918 Hotel
79 Ronald Reagan Building DC - Washington Pei Cobb Freed & Partners (James Ingo Freed) 1998 Govt.
80 Phillips Exeter Academy Library NH - Exeter Kahn, Louis I. 1972 Library
81 The Plaza Hotel NY - New York Hardenbergh, Henry Janeway 1907 Hotel
82 Sofitel IL -Chicago Viguier, Jean-Paul 2002 Skyscraper/Hotel
83 Glessner House IL -Chicago Richardson, Henry Hobson 1887 Residence
84 Yankee Stadium NY - New York Osborn Engineering Company 1923 Sports
85 Chicago Public Library IL - Chicago Hammond, Beeby & Babka 1991 Library
86 Lincoln Center NY - New York Harrison, Wallace K. et al 1968 Auditorium
87 The Dakota Apartments NY - New York Hardenbergh, Henry Janeway 1884 Residence
88 Art Institute Of Chicago IL - Chicago Shelply, Rutan, and Coolidge 1893 Museum
89 Fairmont Hotel CA - San Francisco Reid & Reid and Julia Morgan 1906 Hotel
90 Boston Public Library MA - Boston McKim, Mead, and White 1895 Library
91 Hollywood Bowl CA - Hollywood Lloyd Wright, Allied Architects, Frank Gehry 1924 Auditorium
92 Texas State Capitol TX - Austin Myers, Elijah E. 1888 Govt.
93 Fontainebleau FL - Miami Beach Lapidus, Morris 1954 Hotel
94 University of Michigan Law Library MI - Ann Arbor York & Sawyer 1931 Library
95 Getty Museum CA - Los Angeles Meier, Richard 1997 Museum
96 High Museum GA - Atlanta Meier, Richard 1983 Museum
97 Federal Building and United States Courthouse NY - Islip Meier, Richard 2000 Govt.
98 Humana Building KY - Louisville Graves, Michael 1986 Skyscraper
99 Disney Concert Hall CA - Los Angeles Gehry, Frank 2003 Auditorium
100 Radio City Music Hall NY - New York Stone, Edward Durell and Donald Deskey 1932 Auditorium
101 Paul Brown Stadium OH - Cincinnati NBBJ 2000 Sports
102 United Airlines Terminal - O'Hare IL -Chicago Jahn, Helmut 1988 Transit
103 Hyatt Regency GA - Atlanta Portman, John 1967 Hotel
104 AT&T Park (San Francisco Giants Stadium) CA - San Francisco Hellmuth, Obata + Kassabaum 2000 Sports
105 Time Warner Center NY - New York Skidmore Owings & Merill (David Childs) 2003 Skyscraper
106 Washington, DC Metro DC - Washington Weese, Harry 1976 Transit
107 IDS Center/IDS Tower MN - Minneapolis Philip Johnson and John Burgee 1972 Skyscraper
108 Seattle Public Library WA - Seattle Office of Metroplitan Architecture (Rem Koolhaas) 2004 Library
109 Museum of Modern Art CA - San Francisco Botta, Mario 1995 Museum
110 Union Station IL - Chicago Graham, Anderson, Probst & White 1925 Transit
111 United Nations Headquarters NY - New York Wallace K. Harrison, Le Corbusier, Oscar Niemeyer et al. 1953 Govt./Skyscraper
112 National Building Museum/Pension Building DC - Washington Meigs, Montgomery C. 1887 Museum
113 Fenway Park MA - Boston Osborn Engineering Company 1912 Sports
114 Dana-Thomas House IL - Springfield, IL Wright, Frank Lloyd 1904 Residence
115 TWA Terminal - JFK Airport NY - New York Saarinen, Eero 1962 Transit
116 The Athenaeum IN - New Harmony Meier, Richard 1979 Auditorium
117 Walker Art Center MN - Minneapolis Herzog & de Meuron 2005 Museum
118 American Airlines Center TX - Dallas David M. Schwarz/Architectural Services and HKS 2001 Sports
119 Biltmore Arizona AZ - Phoenix McArthur, Albert Chase 1929 Hotel
120 Los Angeles Central Library CA - Los Angeles Bertram Grosvenor Goodhue 1922 Library
121 San Francisco International Airport CA - San Francisco Skidmore, Owings & Merrill 2000 Transit
122 Camden Yards MD - Baltimore Hellmuth, Obata + Kassabaum 1992 Sports
123 Taliesin West AZ - Scottsdale Wright, Frank Lloyd 1937 Residence
124 Holocaust Museum DC - Washington Pei Cobb Freed & Partners (James Ingo Freed) 1993 Museum
125 Citicorp Center NY - New York Stubbins, Hugh 1978 Skyscraper
126 V. C. Morris Gift Shop / Xanadu Gallery CA - San Francisco Wright, Frank Lloyd 1948 Retail
127 Union Station MO - Kansas City Hunt, Jarvis 1914 Transit
128 Rookery Building IL - Chicago Burnham & Root, Frank Lloyd Wright (Lobby) 1888 Skyscraper
129 Weisman Art Museum - U. of Minnesota Twin Cities MN - Minneapolis Gehry, Frank 1993 Museum
130 Douglas House MI - Harbor Springs Meier, Richard 1973 Residence
131 Barnsdall House/ Hollyhock House CA - Los Angeles Wright, Frank Lloyd 1920 Residence
132 Pennzoil Place TX - Houston Philip Johnson and John Burgee 1975 Skyscraper
133 Royalton Hotel NY - New York Starck, Philippe (Renovation) 1988 Hotel
134 Astrodome TX - Houston Hermon Lloyd & W.B. Morgan and Wilson, Morris, Crain & Anderson 1965 Sports
135 Safeco Field WA - Seattle NBBJ 1999 Sports
136 Corning Museum of Glass NY - Corning Harrison & Abramowitz, Smith-Miller + Hawkinson, and Gunnar Birkerts 1951 Museum
137 30th Street Station PA - Philadelphia Graham, Anderson, Probst and White 1934 Transit
138 Robie House IL - Chicago Wright, Frank Lloyd 1909 Residence
139 Williams Tower (Transco Tower) TX - Houston Philip Johnson and John Burgee 1983 Skyscraper
140 Stahl House/Case Study House #22 CA - Los Angeles Koenig, Pierre 1960 Residence
141 Apple (SoHo) NY - New York Ronnette Riley Architect 2002 Retail
142 John Hancock Hotel and Conference Center MA - Boston I.M. Pei & Partners 1976 Skyscraper
143 Pennsylvania Station/Penn Station NY - New York McKim, Mead and White 1910 Transit
144 Hyatt Regency CA - San Francisco Portman, John 1973 Hotel
145 Carson Pirie Scott IL - Chicago Sullivan, Louis 1899 Skyscraper
146 Museum of Modern Art NY - New York Philip Johnson, Cesar Pelli (1984), Yoshio Taniguchi (2004) 1964 Museum
147 Auditorium Building IL - Chicago Dankmar Adler and Louis Sullivan 1889 Skyscraper
148 Brown Palace CO - Denver Edbrooke, Frank E. 1892 Hotel
149 Ingalls Ice Arena - Yale University CT - New Haven Saarinen, Eero 1958 Sports
150 Battle Hall - University of Texas TX - Austin Gilbert, Cass 1911 Library

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Old May 1st, 2009, 05:06 AM   #263
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New York has a much stronger brand outside, but Chicago's skyline is almost perfect
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You know what? I am like a nanny because some of you are a bit too immature for the discussions on this website. I did not skip conveniently over any posts I see you as the instigator and that is all that matters to me. Chicago, performing terribly on this poll makes it no less grandiose, charming, monolithic, influential, well balanced, all around great looking than it already is and commands more respect than you are giving it.
If you feel that this poll means anything other than silly ratings in an online chat forum then you need to get out more.
And while I do not moderate this forum I am not barred from reminding you how you should conduct yourselves on here. Mind you I said remind and not reprimand which is how some of you mistakenly perceive it to be.
I'm glad they got rid of city vs. city and this thread is a testament to that choice.
I'm going to collect some posts in here and bump the old, much more member-friendly, non vs. thread we had. lock:
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Old May 1st, 2009, 05:21 AM   #265
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That rule is stupid. Why can't there be city vs city discussions? Are we little babies who need to be protected from getting our little feelings hurt? Most of us are adults and should be able to have skyline versus skyline threads on a skyscraper forum.

So weird.

You seem kind of juvenile if anyone asks me. Why are you rooting for competition? So you can act jerky and do your best to be a nasty snob so you can alienate yourself from the members of this board? Because you are doing a good job of it. "Are we babies" and "getting your feelings hurt" the wrong things for YOU to be asking. Your attitude is all wrong dude, chill out.

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New York's skyline far surpasses Chicago in terms of looks and density. Not to mention, New York is home many iconic structures (Empire State, Flatiron, Chrysler, Brooklyn Bridge, Statue of Liberty, former WTC) and Chicago is home to none that an average person would know.

-599GTB, and the voters here at skyscraper city.
This is indicative of the institgation I mentioned earlier so there is no confusion.

I rest my case as to why this city vs. city thread should be locked.
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LOL, that skyline "really isn't much". On what world? What a joke.
Like I repeatedly keep saying, NYC's skyline is certainly overwhelming and awe inspiring, and truly one of the best urban areas in the world. But as far as skyline aesthetics are concerned, for me at least, it just doesn't cut it. Just because the skyline is massive doesn't mean it's pretty to look at. Look at Sao Paulo...it has thousands of buildings forming a truly massive urban fabric...that doesn't mean its skyline is beautiful. I just find Chicago's skyline to be more pleasing to look, though it's not as massive and it doesn't have that "holy shit" factor that NYC does. At first, for me and I'm sure others, there is that initial "holy shit" reaction to NYC's skyline. But the more I look at the more I don't like it (compared to Chicago's skyline). I just see a jumbled mess of concrete.

The only thing that's a joke is your attitude towards other people's opinions. ...and Chicago isn't doing terribly on this poll...NYC only has 63 more votes. I don't see why you are getting so bent out of shape over this...god forbid people prefer Chicago over NYC (BLASPHEMY!)
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Like I repeatedly keep saying, NYC's skyline is certainly overwhelming and awe inspiring, and truly one of the best urban areas in the world. But as far as skyline aesthetics are concerned, for me at least, it just doesn't cut it. Just because the skyline is massive doesn't mean it's pretty to look at. Look at Sao Paulo...it has thousands of buildings forming a truly massive urban fabric...that doesn't mean its skyline is beautiful. I just find Chicago's skyline to be more pleasing to look, though it's not as massive and it doesn't have that "holy shit" factor that NYC does. At first, for me and I'm sure others, there is that initial "holy shit" reaction to NYC's skyline. But the more I look at the more I don't like it (compared to Chicago's skyline). I just see a jumbled mess of concrete.
Just because Chicago's skyline is spaced out doesn't make it attractive either. Look at Houston. Hudreds of spaced out boxes, but that doesn't mean Houston's skyline is beautiful either. If Manhattan's buildings were spaced out, it would do nothing but turn it into a second-class city like Chicago or Houston with poor urban design. New York's skyline is beautiful.

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The only thing that's a joke is your attitude towards other people's opinions. ...and Chicago isn't doing terribly on this poll...NYC only has 63 more votes. I don't see why you are getting so bent out of shape over this...god forbid people prefer Chicago over NYC (BLASPHEMY!)
Only? Uh, 63 votes out of 263 votes is a lot. That's like X candidate losing an election 38% to 62%. That's not terrible to you? That's awful...but whatever!

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You seem kind of juvenile if anyone asks me. Why are you rooting for competition? So you can act jerky and do your best to be a nasty snob so you can alienate yourself from the members of this board? Because you are doing a good job of it. "Are we babies" and "getting your feelings hurt" the wrong things for YOU to be asking. Your attitude is all wrong dude, chill out.



This is indicative of the institgation I mentioned earlier so there is no confusion.

I rest my case as to why this city vs. city thread should be locked.
What's wrong with instigating? As an outsider of both cities, I can't help but find the bitter cases of "second city syndrome" slightly amusing. I just find it cute how personal some people are taking the loss.

It would be boring if I weren't here to instigate - and the only reason I turned into an instigator is when we were all called uninformed internationals just because Chicago is being trounced by NYC on our poll. What a bunch of sore losers.
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NYC. Is a city with a more extensive and bigger skyline with plenty towers making their peaks in the skyline and buildings canyons. Gotta love this city. Chicago in the second best for me in the USA of course.


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Only? Uh, 63 votes out of 263 votes is a lot. That's like X candidate losing an election 38% to 62%.
Lying with statistics is a beautiful thing, isn't it? I would argue that 1 out of 2 is much less significant than 5,000 out of 10,000, wouldn't you? Still 50%.
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First off, it's apparent that the only people with "second city" syndrome are you and other Chicago haters. I have yet to see Chicagoans mention this once, or cry about NYC. The Chicagoans appear to be the most appreciative of both cities. And just because we feel that NYC is the only North American city that compares to Chicago, that doesn't mean we are jealous of it, mad at it, suffering from second city syndrome, or whatever...I think ignorant people like you just made that term up because we are always talking about NYC (with the highest respect might I add).

Second, who is taking the so called "loss" personally? You? I don't know what thread you are reading, but I see nobody taking anything personally, except me and a few others who find your attitude ridiculously annoying and obnoxious

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After initial instigation by you. You had your bias and attitude right from the start...no wonder this thread went south.

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It seems like the cockroaches are again coming out of the woodwork!
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The problem I have with NYC's skyline is that it's 'too big' - if that's possible.

Viewed from some angles (can't tell you which - will show you a picture later), the skyline looks unimpressive and just like a mid-sized American town's...because so many of the towers are all so close in height. But obviously, each tower is about 200m or so..it just creates a strange effect that isn't too appealing.

Viewed from other angles of course, the skyline is awesome.
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There is another thread for those of us that want to avoid immature competition and can have intelligible conversation about the highlights in both amazing cities, repeat offenders have been dealt with and this thread WILL BE locked.


This thread, as I see it was like a test to see if city vs. city could come back without the BS but as we can see it really can't. I hope to see the big contributors here over in the new thread. It'll be a lot more enjoyable.
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That thread certainly went around for way too long.
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