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Old November 12th, 2011, 12:38 AM   #241
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Old November 13th, 2011, 03:17 AM   #242
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that was a really cool video
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Old November 15th, 2011, 03:44 AM   #243
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Nice video....a line to the airport is one of the best ideas for this system.
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Old November 15th, 2011, 04:56 AM   #244
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It's great Dallas has a large LRT system but seriously there should be no more building of new branch lines until a second downtown connector is built.

You could have 300 mile rail LRT/Metro system but it's not much use if it has 30 minute headways.
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Old November 16th, 2011, 09:18 PM   #245
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Well this is US, where mass transit don't get enough support or money as they do in Europe and Asia.
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Old November 16th, 2011, 11:48 PM   #246
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It's great Dallas has a large LRT system but seriously there should be no more building of new branch lines until a second downtown connector is built.

You could have 300 mile rail LRT/Metro system but it's not much use if it has 30 minute headways.
Well I think the thing that is stopping that from happening is it's not just it's other cities in the area that are making the decisions. Like Dallas wanted to build a subway line but the suburban areas wanted more transit in the suburbs. So well I think that's the reason.
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Old November 28th, 2011, 02:13 AM   #247
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I noticed some construction and new metal pillars on I-30 near Grand Avenue a few days ago. Does anyone know if this is part of DART? I was wondering because they seem to be adjacent to the train yard.
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Old November 29th, 2011, 02:56 AM   #248
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Ah! you mean East Grand at South Barry ... looks like a warehouse district
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Old November 29th, 2011, 10:11 PM   #249
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Ah! you mean East Grand at South Barry ... looks like a warehouse district
Yes. They look like highway columns but I don't think they're putting in a new freeway there. I thought perhaps they're building a spur to Fair Park so the trains won't have to go halfway to Oak Cliff to get to the train yard.
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Old March 3rd, 2012, 09:46 AM   #250
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"Stolen" from the DALLAS | DART (Dallas Area Rapid Transit) Development News,

thanks WesTexas for posting this:

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Here are the new DART buses:

It's cool that these run on compressed natural gas. I'm not sure how efficient it is compared to diesel or gasoline but it seems to be a step in the right direction.

I wonder how the rest of the DART Rail system expansion is going. I've been to Dallas several times in the past couple months, I see the rail lines next to U.S. 75 but never see any trains. Also the first time I took the DART for fun a few months ago I noticed the downtown stations did not show when the next train was arriving, weird.
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Old March 4th, 2012, 07:07 AM   #251
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It's cool that these run on compressed natural gas. I'm not sure how efficient it is compared to diesel or gasoline but it seems to be a step in the right direction.

I wonder how the rest of the DART Rail system expansion is going. I've been to Dallas several times in the past couple months, I see the rail lines next to U.S. 75 but never see any trains. Also the first time I took the DART for fun a few months ago I noticed the downtown stations did not show when the next train was arriving, weird.
Shows how far behind the US is with bus development. At lot of the rest of the world went to natural gas about 20 years ago. The benifit of natural gas is the cost, availability and emmisions as opposed to efficency. The rest of the world however is now starting to move away from natural gas into hybrid technology and diesel engines with even stricter enviromental requirements.
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Old March 4th, 2012, 08:00 PM   #252
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Shows how far behind the US is with bus development. At lot of the rest of the world went to natural gas about 20 years ago. The benifit of natural gas is the cost, availability and emmisions as opposed to efficency. The rest of the world however is now starting to move away from natural gas into hybrid technology and diesel engines with even stricter enviromental requirements.
not true at all.
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far behind the US is with bus development
Canada also ... Quebec itself (i.e., compared to Ontario)? Even more so!
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Old March 5th, 2012, 04:11 PM   #254
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not true at all.
Which part isn't true?
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Old March 5th, 2012, 05:04 PM   #255
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Which part isn't true?
Well here are the problems I have with your statement.

First, most of DART's buses are 10+ years old, they really haven't taken the opportunity to purchase new buses that are CNG or hybrid. Second, we have hybrid and efficient diesel engine tech. Los Angeles already has a 100% CNG Fleet. Agencies around country have Hybrids running. Hybrid technology is nothing new in the US. However, I can attest from here in So-Cal, that due to the bankruptcy of ISE, many agencies have had to purchase CNG even though they had purchased Gas-Electric models before. It has nothing to do with the US being behind.


EDIT: You really must not live in the US. Hybrids are everywhere.

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Old March 5th, 2012, 06:36 PM   #256
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Interesting, the abbreviation caught my eye, DART (Dublin Area Rapid Transit).
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Well here are the problems I have with your statement.
You need to read my statement in the context of the post I was replying to. The poster was getting so excited about DART getting CNG buses, which as I pointed out have been common elsewhere in the world for a number of years, and also have I pointed out are elsewhere in the world becoming less of a choice in favour of more efficent and lower pouluting diesel or hybrid technology. Maybe what I should have said is DART is so far behind the times.

Certainly nothing wrong with that statement.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 07:12 AM   #258
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You need to read my statement in the context of the post I was replying to. The poster was getting so excited about DART getting CNG buses, which as I pointed out have been common elsewhere in the world for a number of years, and also have I pointed out are elsewhere in the world becoming less of a choice in favour of more efficent and lower pouluting diesel or hybrid technology. Maybe what I should have said is DART is so far behind the times.

Certainly nothing wrong with that statement.
Yes, saying DART specifically is behind makes much more sense. I did read the context, but saying the "US is far behind in bus development" is a just plain ludicrous statement that made you look like you had no idea what the hell you are talking about.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 07:19 AM   #259
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Dallas is impressive its light rail system is very impressive it may rival Los Angeles one day and its increable to see a city where cars are dominant, rail is becoming more and more common.

DART keep up the good job, transit is better then no transit, so i don't understand this whole thing is behind thing.

The united states is recovering what those stupid motor companies did to the united states after WWII was ignoring rail and build only highways and airports which is stupid in order to maintain a great transit a city has to have equal modes of transportation a balance not favorism.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 07:26 AM   #260
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Dallas is impressive its light rail system is very impressive it may rival Los Angeles one day and its increable to see a city where cars are dominant, rail is becoming more and more common.
With measure R and several rail lines about start construction, higher density, and higher headways means Dallas will never touch LA. The Blue Line alone gets nearly twice as much ridership as Dallas' entire system.

Dallas needs more TOD and a second downtown connector. The current Downtown connector is Dallas' Achilles heel. Sure they have large rail system, but it's ridiculous headways because they have 4 different lines on 2 tracks will limit it's it's growth.
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