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Old March 19th, 2013, 04:18 AM   #341
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Los Angeles is one other city undertaking "Sprawl Repair" as well as some municipalities in the Phoenix area.

There are others (that I can't recall), but LA and some of these other South/Mountain West cities are the most prominent.
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Old January 5th, 2014, 09:26 AM   #342
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The first nine miles of Dallas Area Rapid Transit’s “Orange Line” in 2009 began connecting commuters and businesses in the Irving/Las Colinas area to Downtown Dallas. This $430 M project was completed in 2012. One of the key goals of DART with the design/build group of Kiewit, Stacey and Witbeck, and Parsons, was working with multiple stakeholders so that they had a hand in making the five light rails stations on this section their own, while maintaining a consistent visuial consistency across the entire line. Concrete pavers provided different colors and patterns to give project officials, city groups, and two local colleges many choices without significant increases to construction costs. Classic Tejas was selected as the paver installer and worked closely with KSWRP to help keep the overall project on schedule by moving crews up and down the line where work was ready. This section had over 500,000 sf of pavers and by 2014 it will extend into DFW airport providing convenient access to travelers throughout Dallas County.
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Old January 5th, 2014, 06:10 PM   #343
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Sorry it is true, and I don't think comparing to another city is quite right. Now I don't know the Boston system, but from the very quick look I just had it seems as if Boston the line runs directly through some densely populated areas whereas the Dart for the most part goes up empty corridors and is feed from buses to where the population is and park and ride sites. So of course you would expect ridership in Boston to be higher.

As I was saying the key in Dallas would be to get people out of their cars, and having a 15 minute peak, 30 off peak service is not going to do that, when they could be in the city in the same times as they may have to wait to get the Dart. Of course what I was having a shot at earlier was your assumption that cleanliness would get people out of their cars onto the system.
In my post, I said frequency plays a role in ridership but that once it's above the 15-20 minute threshold, there are other factors that obviously play just as large, if not a larger, role, and you're disputing this, by explaining how another factor, in this case the chosen routing, ultimately caused the lower ridership, yet at the same time continuing to insist the fault lies with frequency?
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Old January 5th, 2014, 06:52 PM   #344
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Update for weekday LR ridership in 4Q 2012
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06. Dallas - 103,100
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Dallas DART - 78.8k
Dallas has improved.
That seems like too big of a jump to be entirely legit-- I suspect some statistical noise is involved. Still, even an increase of half that much would be impressive.

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I don't see a direct contradiction. There are a variety of factors affecting ridership, and focusing on one at a time doesn't necessarily mean ignoring the others. Beyond that, there isn't a city in the world where transit planning is a true no-brainer-- there are always compromises to be made, and in hindsight the choices made may not always seem like the best ones. Still, the perfect is the enemy of the good enough, and IMO what Dallas has done is plenty good enough.

I'd prefer to focus on the positives: Dallas has built a huge transit network, and it's performing quite well considering how sprawly a city Dallas is. I hope and expect to be pleased with the system's performance in the coming years.

Now, what about the Downtown reliever line...?
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Old January 5th, 2014, 07:19 PM   #345
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Focusing on one at a time doesn't mean ignoring the others, it just happens to be preferable to place the greatest focus and highest priority on the factors that have the biggest impact.
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Old January 23rd, 2014, 08:35 AM   #346
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Next-stop screens are being rolled out on Dallas buses:



source: http://dartdallas.dart.org/2014/01/2...gital-screens/
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Old January 24th, 2014, 05:51 PM   #347
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Haven't seen that on any other US bus. Are they the first?
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Old January 24th, 2014, 05:56 PM   #348
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Haven't seen that on any other US bus. Are they the first?
Most that display anything at all, use the simple indicators at the front of the bus:
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I'm thinking of the ones actually inside the bus, visible to passengers, but you get the idea.

This seems like a good idea. Ultimately, it was my realization while in San Francisco and LA, that those metro companies willfully share information with Google such that it's quite easy to traverse the city using my phone.

Until now, I'd always been hesitant to get on a bus in an unfamiliar city. However, these kinds of steps really do make a difference for ridership, I think (especially in cities like Dallas).
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Old January 24th, 2014, 06:43 PM   #349
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It seems this also exists on some buses in Las Vegas:

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Transit TV in Los Angeles has TV screens that show the GPS location of the bus (so nothing a smartphone wouldn't do):

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Old January 24th, 2014, 06:46 PM   #350
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Orange Line extension to DFW Airport (opening 2014.12)









source: http://dartdallas.dart.org/2014/01/2...rport-station/


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Old January 24th, 2014, 06:50 PM   #351
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Blue Line extension to UNT (Dallas campus) - opening 2016

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DART set to begin South Oak Cliff Three Line Extension project
24 January 2014

Dallas Area Rapid Transit (DART) is set to begin the South Oak Cliff Three Line Extension project on 24 January at its headquarters.

Expected to open in late 2016, the Blue Line extends north from Ledbetter Station through downtown Dallas, Mockingbird Station, Northeast Dallas, Garland and Rowlett.

The transit agency said that work on the 2.6-mile extension of its Blue Line light rail transit system from Ledbetter Station to the UNT Dallas campus is underway.

New stations will be added at Camp Wisdom and UNT Dallas, while Ledbetter Station, which currently the southern terminus of the line, will be redesigned to improve the flow of bus and pedestrian traffic.

The extension will provide potential development opportunities in the area south of Ledbetter Station to the UNT-Dallas Campus.

Camp Wisdom Station will be located near a future City of Dallas recreation center, while UNT Dallas Station will be located adjacent to the campus.
Dallas Mayor Pro Tem Atkins said: "This extension has great potential development opportunities for the area south of Ledbetter Station and on to the UNT-Dallas Campus."

DART said that the extension to UNT Dallas will complete the current light rail expansion and take the length of the US longest light rail system to 93 miles.

DART opened the first section of the Blue Line, from downtown Dallas to Illinois Station, in June 1996 as part of its initial 11-mile of light rail. The second section of the line from Illinois to Ledbetter was opened in May 1997.

Northern extensions from downtown Dallas to Mockingbird was opened in January 1997 and from Mockingbird to Garland in stages in 2001 and 2002. The line from Garland to Rowlett was completed in December 2012.

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Old February 12th, 2014, 06:42 PM   #352
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I've got a friend who studies in Dallas and she said it was a really nice city, transportation wise too. So I decided to take a quick look at the city, one logic extension of the TRE system would be another route between Dallas and Fort Worth but on the line passing through Grand Prairie and Arlington, fairly big cities not served well by public transport. Seems like a done deal to me.

Are there any obstacles not seen on the map for such a line? Or just no interest from the authorities?
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Old February 15th, 2014, 06:47 PM   #354
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I've got a friend who studies in Dallas and she said it was a really nice city, transportation wise too. So I decided to take a quick look at the city, one logic extension of the TRE system would be another route between Dallas and Fort Worth but on the line passing through Grand Prairie and Arlington, fairly big cities not served well by public transport. Seems like a done deal to me.

Are there any obstacles not seen on the map for such a line? Or just no interest from the authorities?
The city of Arlington refuses to pay for it or any other public transit system for that matter (they don't even have a bus system).
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On the 5th March, FTA announced list of 32 favorable transit projects for funding for 2015. Region's favored matched in red:

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Old March 25th, 2014, 06:55 PM   #356
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From Dallas, Texas, the flash, apparently official... (as was said by Walter Cronkite):

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DART accelerates opening date for DFW Airport Station

March 25, 2014
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Dallas Area Rapid Transit connects North Texas commuters to the world four months early and under budget with the opening of DFW Airport Station on Monday, August 18.

The five-mile Orange Line extension from Belt Line Station to the newly rebuilt Terminal A at Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport will bring the nation's longest light rail system to 90 miles.

"Opening a project of this complexity early and under budget is a great testament to the work of our DART team and our colleagues at DFW Airport," DART President/Executive Director Gary Thomas said. "Support from the Federal Transit Administration and Federal Aviation Administration was also crucial to beating the targeted opening."
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Old April 16th, 2014, 10:58 PM   #357
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DART tests first train to DFW Airport station ahead of the August 18 opening.

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Congratulations on new Airport extension - updated map on urbanrail.net:

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Very nice. Looks like it's time for a "loop" line to link these lines together.

I wonder how much of an increase in ridership there will be now that the DFW airport station is open.
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It’s official: DART trains are now rolling into Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport
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5:50 am on August 18, 2014

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