daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Infrastructure and Mobility Forums > Subways and Urban Transport

Subways and Urban Transport Metros, subways, light rail, trams, buses and other local transport systems



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old August 19th, 2014, 04:49 AM   #361
diablo234
Oh No He Didn't
 
diablo234's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 5,297

Quote:
Originally Posted by FM 2258 View Post


Very nice. Looks like it's time for a "loop" line to link these lines together.

I wonder how much of an increase in ridership there will be now that the DFW airport station is open.
Well airport stations don't really generate much ridership (plus it is mostly employees that tend to take public transit to the airport as opposed to travelers) so I don't think there will be a dramatic increase overall.

That being said though it definately makes Dallas more visitor friendly which is a good thing. Now if only Houston can get with the program and extend rail service to IAH and HOU.
diablo234 no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old August 19th, 2014, 09:15 AM   #362
BoulderGrad
Registered User
 
BoulderGrad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 5,507
Likes (Received): 1172

Quote:
Originally Posted by FM 2258 View Post


Very nice. Looks like it's time for a "loop" line to link these lines together.

I wonder how much of an increase in ridership there will be now that the DFW airport station is open.
I'd say a bigger priority would be to split up the lines running thru downtown so that there aren't 4 lines sharing the same corridor (thus quadrupling the headways on the branches). Maybe even grade separating the downtown segments too (tunnel perhaps?). More frequency = more convenience = more ridership.
__________________
My safety word is "Keep Going."

FM 2258, ChuckScraperMiami#1 liked this post
BoulderGrad no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 19th, 2014, 09:20 AM   #363
ssiguy2
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: White Rock BC
Posts: 5,404
Likes (Received): 856

It's true that most people who are travelling as families will not take the train but individual tourists, business people, and especially the workers at the airport certainly will.

Individual tourists and business travellers tend to head right to the inner city where DART will do and regular workers will use it because it is fast and parking at airports, unlike the mall or their non-downtown jobs, is expensive.
__________________

ChuckScraperMiami#1 liked this post
ssiguy2 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 19th, 2014, 01:17 PM   #364
greg_christine
Registered User
 
greg_christine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Smithfield, VA
Posts: 1,008
Likes (Received): 142

Dallas holds the lead for North American light rail length:

Dallas: 145 km / 62 Stations
Los Angeles: 113 km / 65 Stations
Portland: 85 km / 85 Stations
San Diego: 83 km / 53 Stations
Denver: 75 km / 45 Stations
Saint Louis: 73.3 km / 37 Stations
Salt Lake City: 71.4 km / 50 Stations
San Jose: 68 km / 62 Stations
Sacramento: 63 km / 51 Stations
Calgary: 59.6 km / 41 Stations

The numbers are from the Urban Rail website < http://urbanrail.net/am/america.htm >. I believe the numbers exclude streetcar lines. The numbers for Los Angeles are from Wikipedia and exclude the Red/Purple metro lines.
__________________

JasnoDTX liked this post

Last edited by greg_christine; August 19th, 2014 at 04:38 PM.
greg_christine no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 30th, 2014, 07:55 PM   #365
dimlys1994
Moderator
 
dimlys1994's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Dniepropetrovsk
Posts: 16,336
Likes (Received): 26116

From Global Rail News:

Quote:
http://www.globalrailnews.com/2014/0...start-in-2016/

TEX Rail construction could start in 2016
30 SEP, 2014



Construction work on TEX Rail, a new regional rail corridor between Fort Worth and DFW Airport, could begin in 2016.

The Fort Worth Transportation Authority (The T) has received permission from the Federal Transit Administration (FTA) and Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) to start the next phase of engineering design for the 44-kilometre route.

The T will also now begin the land acquisition process for properties that lie along the proposed corridor.

By 2018, the authority hopes to have eight stations open, serving 10,000 passengers a day.

Up to 50 per cent of TEX Rail’s capital cost will be financed through federal funding
__________________

ChuckScraperMiami#1 liked this post
dimlys1994 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old October 1st, 2014, 10:59 AM   #366
Dariusb
Formerly known as Bigboyz
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Texarkana, Tx
Posts: 797
Likes (Received): 279

Cool. Hope this gets built.
Dariusb no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 14th, 2014, 05:24 PM   #367
Woonsocket54
PC LOAD LETTER
 
Woonsocket54's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: East Millinocket, Maine
Posts: 5,634
Likes (Received): 5736

Dallas Morning News
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/trans...nsit-plans.ece

Quote:

Possible high-speed rail quickens Dallas transit plans



By Brandon Formby
Transportation Writer

Published: 09 November 2014 10:55 PM
Updated: 10 November 2014 11:28 AM
A private company’s plans to connect Dallas and Houston with a 90-minute high-speed train ride is prompting Dallas Area Rapid Transit to fast-track plans for increased transit options downtown.

The region’s largest transit agency is working on a three-pronged approach to increase rail lines, streetcar routes and downtown train capacity by 2021, when Texas Central Railway’s trains could arrive in Dallas.

And DART now has something that’s long eluded them in dramatically expanding downtown service: a rough financing plan that officials believe could turn the $983.4 million in projects into reality. But a key component currently missing is Texas Central Railway’s decision on the location of its Dallas station.

DART leaders will discuss the situation and their plans during a joint meeting with the Dallas City Council’s transportation committee Monday.

Texas Central last month announced three possible locations for its high-speed rail line. One is on the southwestern corner of downtown. The other two possible end points are along Interstate 45. One is near Loop 12 and the other near Interstate 20.

Texas Central officials say they want to pick a spot that connects passengers with public transit. A downtown station could put the line’s terminus within walking distance of Union Station. That station serves two DART lines, the TRE to Fort Worth, Amtrak, existing bus routes, the under-construction streetcar line to Oak Cliff and taxis.

But if the company goes with one of the I-45 spots, such infrastructure and transit routes would have to be built or moved.

“To relocate all of that would just be financially infeasible,” said Stephen Salin, DART’s vice president of capital planning.

Officials and residents who attended a meeting about the high-speed rail project last month unanimously favored a downtown terminus. That included City Council member Vonciel Jones Hill, who chairs the transportation committee.

“We strongly urge that the train comes into downtown Dallas, and more specifically, Union Station,” she said at the meeting.

Texas Central is expected to pick an end point by the end of the year. Salin said that could be delayed, as project timelines often are. Even if it is, DART is moving forward with the first part of three-phased approach downtown.

The agency plans to spend about $184.4 million to lengthen 28 stations so it can add a third car to trains. That would allow the agency to move 493 people per train as opposed to 329 riders. The downtown platforms can already handle three cars, but the Red and Blue Line stations outside of downtown can’t. That means all Red and Blue trains are currently limited to two cars.

Agency officials believe they’ve identified funding needed for that project.

“We want to keep a couple of things moving so we’re always able to make progress on some front,” said agency spokesman Morgan Lyons.

The next two additions to expanded downtown service include installation of the first phase of a second light-rail track and expansion of the city’s streetcar line. The additional downtown light-rail track is something Dallas has wanted for years. The first phase would connect Victory Station to Union Station with an underground line. It would cost about $706.8 million.

The city next year plans to open a streetcar line from Union Station to Oak Cliff. DART’s downtown expansion plans call for extending that line through downtown and connecting it with the M-Line trolley that serves Uptown. That would cost about $92.2 million.

The key to getting those two pieces in place is securing a $400 million federal grant. Agency officials say it’s hard to predict the likelihood of getting the grant and pinpointing how much they could garner because federal officials are still developing guidelines.

Salin said the agency is working closely with federal transit authorities on those guidelines. He said the agency is volunteering itself as a “guinea pig” for the grant program. The goal is to keep the momentum up so all the pieces are in place if high-speed trains arrive as hoped.

“We want to keep moving forward,” Lyons said. “That’s essential.”
__________________
Woonsocket54 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 16th, 2014, 05:23 PM   #368
Woonsocket54
PC LOAD LETTER
 
Woonsocket54's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: East Millinocket, Maine
Posts: 5,634
Likes (Received): 5736

Amtrak Texas Eagle rerouting between Dallas and Fort Worth in 2015

The Texas Eagle is a daily Amtrak train between San Antonio and Chicago. When running between Dallas and Fort Worth, the train uses a different route than the Trinity Railway Express commuter rail. Amtrak uses a freight railway (grey line below); TRE uses a mostly passenger-dedicated line (blue line below).



This will change beginning in February next year, with intercity rail and commuter rail sharing the same set of tracks.

Fort Worth Star-Telegram
http://www.star-telegram.com/news/tr...le4480770.html

Quote:
Amtrak takes a different track in Dallas-Fort Worth
BY GORDON [email protected]
12/14/2014 3:00 PM Updated: 12/15/2014 4:44 PM

High-speed rail is likely many years away in Dallas-Fort Worth, but area officials have made a deal to improve the slower but well-established Amtrak service by changing tracks.

The solution required four years of negotiations, a $7.2 million infusion of federal Recovery Act stimulus funding and an agreement by the Fort Worth Transportation Authority to pay for a roughly $21 million insurance policy that clears Amtrak of liability for injuries and deaths on the line.

Amtrak, the nation’s only coast-to-coast passenger rail company, will begin using the Trinity Railway Express line between downtown Fort Worth and Dallas in February, Federal Railroad Administrator Joseph Szabo said. Amtrak’s Texas Eagle runs daily from Chicago to San Antonio, with stops in Dallas and Fort Worth.

Amtrak also runs the Heartland Flyer daily from Fort Worth to Oklahoma City, using different tracks.

The Texas Eagle has traditionally used a Union Pacific Railroad freight line between Dallas and Fort Worth, but the tracks are frequently crammed with freight traffic and Amtrak trains are often delayed, sometimes for an hour or more. The TRE line, on the other hand, is mostly a commuter rail route.

“This is a significant improvement for the long-distance route,” said Peter LeCody, president of Texas Rail Advocates, which pushes for better passenger rail service.

LeCody said the new route will probably reduce Amtrak’s travel times. Now, it takes 23 hours and 40 minutes to travel by train from Chicago to Fort Worth, according to the Texas Eagle timetable.

“They had a lot of padding in the schedule, so hopefully they can take that out,” he said.

In addition to providing better Amtrak service, the plan includes adding track to the TRE line, officials said. By double-tracking portions of the TRE line, TRE will be able to operate more commuter trains, and run the Monday-through-Saturday service more frequently, they said.

Long time coming

Negotiations to move Amtrak to the TRE line dragged on for years, and in 2012 the project nearly had to send its federal stimulus funding back to Washington. A deal was worked out to save that funding.

The Fort Worth Transportation Authority, or the T, got involved because it is working on another commuter rail project known as TEX Rail and needed the cooperation of Union Pacific.

TEX Rail would run from Fort Worth to Grapevine and Dallas/Fort Worth Airport, using a 2-mile section of Union Pacific track north of downtown Fort Worth. The project is scheduled to open in 2018, pending federal funding.

In return for its help with TEX Rail, Union Pacific said the T would have to find a way to get Amtrak off the Union Pacific line running through Dallas, Arlington and Fort Worth, several officials have said.

Amtrak said it would be glad to move to the TRE line but would not accept liability for the line. Amtrak does indemnify — or secure against liability — other railroads when it uses their tracks. But that policy follows laws passed in the 1970s when Amtrak was created and do not cover future agreements, Amtrak spokesman Marc Magliari said.

In the end, the T agreed to pay about $1.07 million per year for the $21 million insurance policy, T President Paul Ballard said.

Amtrak will use the TRE line through September 2025, Dallas Area Rapid Transit officials said.

Although DART and the T co-own the TRE and are even partners, DART officials said they weren’t obligated to share the cost of the Amtrak insurance policy because it was part of a negotiation for the T’s TEX Rail project.

“The T obligation was a negotiated requirement between Union Pacific and the T because the T needs access to UP property for TEX Rail,” DART spokesman Morgan Lyons said.

Ballard, who became T president in April and wasn’t involved in most of the negotiations on the insurance policy, said he hopes the annual amount can be reduced over time.

“Those things, generally, you can bring them down in future years as the insurance company gets comfortable with the risk,” he said.

Some Texas Eagle supporters in Arkansas and East Texas have hoped Amtrak would consider stopping at CentrePort Station, just south of DFW Airport, a very popular stop on TRE. But Amtrak officials said they have no immediate plans to stop there because Amtrak service isn’t frequent enough to accommodate train riders if they miss a flight.

When Amtrak begins using the TRE line, commuter rail passengers will need to keep an eye out for the Amtrak trains as they roll through the stations without stopping. Pedestrians must often cross tracks to get to their TRE platforms and may not be accustomed to trains zooming past the stations without stopping, LeCody said.

Gordon Dickson, 817-390-7796

Twitter: @gdickson


__________________
Woonsocket54 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 16th, 2014, 05:29 PM   #369
dimlys1994
Moderator
 
dimlys1994's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Dniepropetrovsk
Posts: 16,336
Likes (Received): 26116

I think Amtrak is becoming better than we previously thought
__________________
dimlys1994 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 16th, 2014, 07:20 PM   #370
CNB30
centralnatbankbuildingrva
 
CNB30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: New York (Brooklyn)/Richmond/Philadelphia
Posts: 2,575
Likes (Received): 805

Quote:
Originally Posted by dimlys1994 View Post
I think Amtrak is becoming better than we previously thought
the ridership improves every year too
__________________
High speed rail=real energy independence!

A developed country is not a place where the poor have cars. It’s where the rich use public transportation

Feel The Bern #2016
CNB30 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 1st, 2015, 02:03 AM   #371
diablo234
Oh No He Didn't
 
diablo234's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 5,297



Dallas News: DART looks at building a toll road, cutting fees for new cities to join

Quote:
Dallas Area Rapid Transit’s push to lure more cities into its fold — without upsetting existing members who have loyally paid billions over decades — is rife with competing goals.

The situation is nothing new, but two ideas to strike a balance are. DART board members Friday discussed seeking changes to state law to allow new cities to join for half of what current members pay.

And they also discussed building what would be the agency’s first toll road, meant to help finance a parallel bus rapid transit, or BRT, line from Plano to McKinney.

Gary Thomas, DART board president and executive president, told board members that not all toll roads are profitable.

“But if this was, would the region support it?” he said.

DART already owns the land needed. It’s alongside the unused rail line that runs north from Plano’s Parker Road Station. The agency has long considered the possibility of extending the Red Line light-rail service north, but that could cost more than $600 million to reach McKinney. A BRT line, which is basically a road used only by high-capacity buses, would cost about $150 million.

But that cheaper price doesn’t solve a key problem: who would pay the upfront costs and how? The cities that would be served — Allen, Fairview and McKinney — aren’t DART members.

Thomas said the requirement that members spend 1 cent of their sales tax to join is a deal-breaker for the cities. But even if the Legislature allowed members to join at a half-cent — and the cities took advantage — that would likely put the project at the back of the line of ones that current members want built.

“We still have to take care of the commitment we made to the current cities,” said board member Mark Enoch.

Projects already on the drawing board within the system include a second downtown light-rail track and starting commuter train or BRT service on the Cotton Belt from Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport to Parker Road.

That situation would mean BRT service for new Collin County suburbs wouldn’t begin for at least 20 years, a time frame that could be an obstacle to joining the system.

Finding a financing tool to speed up construction, like a parallel toll road, could better persuade some sort of junior membership. But then existing members, especially those who only have bus service but no BRT or trains, would question why they’ve spent decades paying a full penny.

...............................
diablo234 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 15th, 2015, 01:41 AM   #372
Woonsocket54
PC LOAD LETTER
 
Woonsocket54's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: East Millinocket, Maine
Posts: 5,634
Likes (Received): 5736

2015.04.13 - opening of Oak Cliff streetcar

Railway Age
http://www.railwayage.com/index.php/...car-debut.html

Quote:
Wednesday, February 11, 2015

Dallas sets Oak Cliff streetcar debut
Written by Douglas John Bowen

U.S. streetcar advocates expected Washington, D.C., to open the first new streetcar line for service in 2015, but it now looks as if Dallas will get the honor.

A Dallas Area Rapid Transit (DART) spokesman says the Oak Cliff streetcar line will begin operations through its namesake neighborhood on Monday, April 13, 2015, linking Dallas Union Station and Methodist Dallas Medical Center.

Some observers note the opening date is an ambitious target, since streetcar deliveries from Brookville Equipment Corp. reportedly have yet to take place.

Oak Cliff residents championed the $51 million project, though they were offered assistance from DART in the development phase and, eventually, a commitment from DART to operate the line.

The debut will occur along 1.6 miles of right-of-way. Extensions are planned to increase the line's length to 2 miles.

A Dallas City Council committee is advancing a $1 billion plan which includes linking the Oak Cliff streetcar line with the heritage McKinney Avenue streetcar via a downtown link.
__________________

dimlys1994, ChuckScraperMiami#1 liked this post
Woonsocket54 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 23rd, 2015, 07:28 PM   #373
dfwcre8tive
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Seattle
Posts: 299
Likes (Received): 26

DART streetcar reveal

https://www.facebook.com/DARTDallas/...53159595304812





__________________
dfwcre8tive no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 24th, 2015, 12:43 AM   #374
lkstrknb
Chicago Luke
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 445
Likes (Received): 804

It looks similar to the Portland, Seattle, and Washington DC streetcars, but an updated exterior look. Is it by the same manufacturer?
lkstrknb no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 24th, 2015, 12:53 AM   #375
dfwcre8tive
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Seattle
Posts: 299
Likes (Received): 26

Quote:
Originally Posted by lkstrknb View Post
It looks similar to the Portland, Seattle, and Washington DC streetcars, but an updated exterior look. Is it by the same manufacturer?
It's the Liberty Modern Streetcar by Brookville, first in the U.S. to go wireless (using battery power for the bridge crossing).

http://www.railwayage.com/index.php/...in-dallas.html

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/DAR...297262061.html
dfwcre8tive no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 24th, 2015, 01:24 AM   #376
MrAronymous
Registered User
 
MrAronymous's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,959
Likes (Received): 6070

Gotta admit, for a rail vehicle designed in the US, this looks pretty slick.
MrAronymous no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 12th, 2015, 04:57 PM   #377
lunarwhite
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 50
Likes (Received): 29

There will be a ribbon-cutting ceremony for the modern streetcar on Monday, April 13 at 9:00 am.

Regular service will begin from Union Station at 11:30.

http://dart.org/riding/dallasstreetcar.asp

The second car will not arrive from Brookville until late this week, so for some time there will be only one car available for service.
__________________

dimlys1994, ChuckScraperMiami#1 liked this post
lunarwhite no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 13th, 2015, 01:05 PM   #378
dimlys1994
Moderator
 
dimlys1994's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Dniepropetrovsk
Posts: 16,336
Likes (Received): 26116

To coinside with opening of Oak Cliff streetcar, urbanrail.net released two new maps - updated DART map:



And Downtown Dallas map:

__________________
dimlys1994 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 14th, 2015, 02:58 AM   #379
Woonsocket54
PC LOAD LETTER
 
Woonsocket54's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: East Millinocket, Maine
Posts: 5,634
Likes (Received): 5736

Dallas Streetcar opening - 2015.04.23



https://twitter.com/dartmedia/status/587682159734861824



https://twitter.com/dartmedia/status/587617342785331201
__________________
Woonsocket54 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 14th, 2015, 05:40 AM   #380
Woonsocket54
PC LOAD LETTER
 
Woonsocket54's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: East Millinocket, Maine
Posts: 5,634
Likes (Received): 5736

A few more photos:













Source: http://www.dallasvoice.com/oak-cliff...-10193702.html



Source: https://www.facebook.com/DARTDallas/...type=1&theater



Source: https://www.facebook.com/DARTDallas/...type=1&theater



Source: https://www.facebook.com/DARTDallas/...type=1&theater
__________________
Woonsocket54 no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
dallas, dart, light rail transit, texas

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 04:02 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium