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Old October 12th, 2010, 06:56 AM   #2121
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Old October 12th, 2010, 09:24 AM   #2122
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Are there any airlines flying the A380 into KIAH? I'm going to the airport next weekend, and wouldn't mind waiting around a bit to see it in person.

Edit: never mind. It's probably not going to happen.
no A380s at IAH. I doubt there will ever be a regular A380 service to houston. maybe with emirates when they get all their ordered A380s.
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Old October 12th, 2010, 06:48 PM   #2124
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Emirates eyes 120 A380s, works with Boeing on 777

DUBAI, Oct 12 (Reuters) - Dubai carrier Emirates [EMIRA.UL], the Arab world's largest airline, aims to have 120 Airbus A380s when new airport space is available and is working with Boeing on the next generation of 777 jets.

Emirates, whose passengers are growing at 20 percent annually and expects to maintain this level for the next five years, will fulfill all its 90 orders so far for the A380 superjumbo, President Tim Clark told Reuters in an interview.

"We would like some more but we are going to run short of space," he said. "120 was the baseline figure that the planners worked to get where we needed to be, but we couldn't order that amount because it was too many for here so 90 was a compromise."

The carrier will order more when it gets additional space at its home base in Dubai, he added.

The target implies a future Emirates order for 30 of the world's largest airliner, worth $10 billion at list prices, at an unspecified date. If the airline went ahead with its growth plans it would have an A380 fleet worth over $40 billion.

Emirates, already by far the biggest customer for A380, announced a record $11 billion order for 32 superjumbos at the Berlin Air Show in June.

At July's Farnborough Air Show, Emirates also ordered 30 Boeing 777-300ER wide-body planes, a deal worth potentially more than $9 billion. [ID:nWEA0008]

Clark said the airline is collaborating with Boeing to find a solution for the manufacturer's wide-body 777 aircraft, but said he could not share more details.

"We are working with Boeing on the next generation of 777. We are still very interested in a replacement," he said.

Boeing has said it is looking at the future of the aircraft which faces competition from the future Airbus A350-1000.
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Old October 12th, 2010, 06:49 PM   #2125
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Emirates eyes 120 A380s, works with Boeing on 777

DUBAI, Oct 12 (Reuters) - Dubai carrier Emirates [EMIRA.UL], the Arab world's largest airline, aims to have 120 Airbus A380s when new airport space is available and is working with Boeing on the next generation of 777 jets.

Emirates, whose passengers are growing at 20 percent annually and expects to maintain this level for the next five years, will fulfill all its 90 orders so far for the A380 superjumbo, President Tim Clark told Reuters in an interview.

"We would like some more but we are going to run short of space," he said. "120 was the baseline figure that the planners worked to get where we needed to be, but we couldn't order that amount because it was too many for here so 90 was a compromise."

The carrier will order more when it gets additional space at its home base in Dubai, he added.

The target implies a future Emirates order for 30 of the world's largest airliner, worth $10 billion at list prices, at an unspecified date. If the airline went ahead with its growth plans it would have an A380 fleet worth over $40 billion.

Emirates, already by far the biggest customer for A380, announced a record $11 billion order for 32 superjumbos at the Berlin Air Show in June.

At July's Farnborough Air Show, Emirates also ordered 30 Boeing 777-300ER wide-body planes, a deal worth potentially more than $9 billion. [ID:nWEA0008]

Clark said the airline is collaborating with Boeing to find a solution for the manufacturer's wide-body 777 aircraft, but said he could not share more details.

"We are working with Boeing on the next generation of 777. We are still very interested in a replacement," he said.

Boeing has said it is looking at the future of the aircraft which faces competition from the future Airbus A350-1000.
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Old October 12th, 2010, 09:45 PM   #2126
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Emirates eyes 120 A380s, works with Boeing on 777

DUBAI, Oct 12 (Reuters) - Dubai carrier Emirates [EMIRA.UL], the Arab world's largest airline, aims to have 120 Airbus A380s when new airport space is available and is working with Boeing on the next generation of 777 jets.

Emirates, whose passengers are growing at 20 percent annually and expects to maintain this level for the next five years, will fulfill all its 90 orders so far for the A380 superjumbo, President Tim Clark told Reuters in an interview.

"We would like some more but we are going to run short of space," he said. "120 was the baseline figure that the planners worked to get where we needed to be, but we couldn't order that amount because it was too many for here so 90 was a compromise."

The carrier will order more when it gets additional space at its home base in Dubai, he added.

The target implies a future Emirates order for 30 of the world's largest airliner, worth $10 billion at list prices, at an unspecified date. If the airline went ahead with its growth plans it would have an A380 fleet worth over $40 billion.

Emirates, already by far the biggest customer for A380, announced a record $11 billion order for 32 superjumbos at the Berlin Air Show in June.

At July's Farnborough Air Show, Emirates also ordered 30 Boeing 777-300ER wide-body planes, a deal worth potentially more than $9 billion. [ID:nWEA0008]

Clark said the airline is collaborating with Boeing to find a solution for the manufacturer's wide-body 777 aircraft, but said he could not share more details.

"We are working with Boeing on the next generation of 777. We are still very interested in a replacement," he said.

Boeing has said it is looking at the future of the aircraft which faces competition from the future Airbus A350-1000.
EK can be the lord of the sky
EK competes every single route from west to east. In europe, EK threatens LH, BA, AF. On Kangaroo route, EK agains OZ, CX, MH, SQ, QF ...
Now EK is spreading out between AUS and NZ, interferes some routes like BKK - HKG, KUL - australia.... With the new megaton order, I think EK would be the largest airline in just one decade.

Where do they have enough money????

p/s: so, the strongest competitor of Airbus A380 is Boeing 777-300ER. What an interesting game.
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Old October 13th, 2010, 03:53 PM   #2127
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the A380 and B777 aren't in the same league though (sizewise) ...
if there is a competitor, it's the B747-8i ... but at current stage it isn't much of a competition yet.
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Old October 14th, 2010, 08:51 AM   #2128
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Old October 14th, 2010, 07:57 PM   #2130
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Airbus's A380 finding success in smaller cities
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12 October 2010

Airbus SAS's A380 superjumbo, designed to carry 500 people per flight between the world's biggest airport interchanges, is carving out an unexpected new market with direct travel to non-hub cities.

Singapore Airlines Ltd., the first company to operate the A380 in 2007, is cutting costs by using the plane to reduce the number of flights to Zurich without slashing capacity. Gulf carrier Emirates has deployed it to Manchester in northern England, adding seats without the expense of extra services.

More than 70 airports are equipped to handle the A380, which has an 80-metre wingspan and is 73 metres long, with Munich and Berlin among non-hubs seeking to secure flights from the five carriers that operate the plane and the 10 others with orders. The development is a boost for the Airbus flagship, which has won only one new airline buyer since it first flew.

"The A380 was designed as a replacement for the 747, but as it's deployed we're finding that the execution is very often different than the forecast," said Chris Tarry, an independent analyst in London who has followed the industry for almost 30 years. "Airlines need to match capacity with demand, and if you want to move lots of people in one go the A380 does just that."

Of the 20 destinations that the A380 currently serves, six -- Manchester, Zurich, Auckland, Melbourne, Montreal and Jeddah, the second-largest city in Saudi Arabia -- are absent from Airbus's list of what it predicts will be the top 20 airports for the plane.

For flights from smaller cities the A380 works best as a "strategic tool" when there's no need for a high number of daily frequencies, Richard Carcaillet, Airbus's marketing director for the model, said in an interview.

"It's logical to use the A380 where there's the potential to increase traffic with one well-timed flight that catches the peak of demand and reduces your spill, or traffic that's left behind because an aircraft is too small," the executive said.

Emirates, the No. 1 A380 customer with 13 in its fleet out of 90 on order, began operating the superjumbo to Jeddah four times a week in February, switching to a daily service in June.

Manchester was added to the network last month, with the A380 replacing one of two daily Boeing Co. 777s and funneling a potential 525 more people a week to the Dubai hub the carrier is building as a rival to airports such as London Heathrow.

"There were some very clear traffic flows which were calling for the A380," Emirates chief executive officer Tim Clark said in an interview. "The seat factors on Manchester flights were very high, which required an increase in gauge."

The coming of the A380, which attracted 20,000 spectators for its first flight to Manchester, is "massively important" and was secured at a cost of $15.9 million in upgrades, said Andrew Harrison, the airport's managing director, who is hopeful the remaining 777 service might be switched to the superjumbo.

Manchester, which handled 22 million people last year, ranking it fourth among U.K. airports, had initially regarded Boeing's 787 Dreamliner as a more likely candidate for flights because the model is smaller and designed for direct services that don't involve hub transfers, Harrison said in an interview.

"We always talked about the Dreamliner being potentially more our kind of aircraft," he said. "It would support longer haul and what we call in the business thinner routes. But the Emirates route has proved to have loads of demand."

Emirates' Clark says "similar points" in Germany, France, Asia, South Africa, Italy and China could support the superjumbo, and lists Hamburg, Munich, Dusseldorf, Rome and Milan as possible destinations for the future.

Singapore Airlines deployed the A380 strategically in March when it replaced 12 weekly Boeing Co. 777 flights to Zurich -- which ranks as Switzerland's biggest city but isn't among the largest 150 in Europe -- with a daily superjumbo service.

With the 777 seating 278 people and the A380 471, flights were reduced at a cost of 39 seats a week, maintaining feed to Singapore for connections across Asia and Australia while allowing a spare Boeing to be used for services to Munich.

"This is operationally more efficient as mounting more flights carries incremental costs for landing, parking, over-flight and air traffic control, as well as for a full set of cabin and technical crew and additional fuel consumption," said Nicholas Ionides, a spokesman for the carrier, which is the second-largest in the world by market value.

Among secondary airports identified by Clark as likely A380 destinations, Munich, which opened in 1992, is "well prepared" for the superjumbo, having been built with a plane of its size in mind, according to spokesman Peter Pruemm.

The model has operated test flights to the south German city "several times," though no airlines have plans for scheduled services this year or next, he said.

Berlin's new airport, which opens in June 2012, will have a gate that is A380-compatible and is expecting to receive flights, said spokesman Leif Erichsen. Berlin is almost unique in being a capital city while lacking a major hub, with long-haul German flights focused on Frankfurt, he said.

Airbus, which is owned by European Aeronautic, Defence & Space Co., markets the A380 as more fuel-efficient than older, smaller jets and says it helps alleviate congestion at major airports.

Airlines that operate the superjumbo -- which include Air France, Deutsche Lufthansa SA and Qantas Airways Ltd., as well as Emirates and Singapore Air -- say the plane is also creating its own market, luring flyers with a double-decker layout and on-board perks such as first-class cabins and cocktail bars.

According to Airbus's projections, the five busiest airports for so-called very large aircraft by 2028 will be Hong Kong, Heathrow, Beijing, Dubai and Tokyo Narita, with 12 of the top 20 located in the Asia-Pacific.
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interesting article. looks like the A380 might be more successful than initally predicted.


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Manchester handled 18,7 million people last year though. 22 million was in 2007 ....since then MAN is losing passengers.
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"This is operationally more efficient as mounting more flights carries incremental costs for landing, parking, over-flight and air traffic control, as well as for a full set of cabin and technical crew and additional fuel consumption," said Nicholas Ionides, a spokesman for the carrier, which is the second-largest in the world by market value.

Airlines that operate the superjumbo -- which include Air France, Deutsche Lufthansa SA and Qantas Airways Ltd., as well as Emirates and Singapore Air -- say the plane is also creating its own market, luring flyers with a double-decker layout and on-board perks such as first-class cabins and cocktail bars.
These factors mentioned are as much important as the reduction of fuel consumption per passanger (which is also better than initially expected), less flights = less airport fees etc.

And the second parapraph is also very true. Me and some friends have already flown the A380, and have chosen an airline which offered specifically this plane because on a long-route it looks much more comfortable than any other plane, and having already tested it, I think it's very much true!
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How is it more comfortable though? Seems the seat pitch and width are all the same as other large aircraft types.
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Old October 15th, 2010, 06:29 PM   #2135
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Airbus pitches A380 for Japan's busy domestic market
15 October 2010
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European aircraft maker Airbus landed its A380 airplane at Japan's Haneda airport for the first time Friday as part of an attempt to market the double-decker for the country's popular domestic routes.

The world's largest passenger aircraft was on Sunday due continue its demonstration flight to head for Sapporo in northern Hokkaido island, which the maker said was the world's busiest domestic air route.

The event comes as Haneda, now a domestic and regional hub, prepares Thursday to open a fourth runway and a new international terminal, boosting its role in Japanese capital.

"The smartest way to address airport congestion and to simultaneously meet future passenger demand is to operate a larger, greener, cleaner, quieter and more eco-efficient aircraft," said Airbus executive vice president of operations Gerald Weber.

The world's two busiest domestic routes in the past 12 months were in Japan, and the country also had two more inland routes in the global top 20, added Richard Carcaillet, Airbus' director of marketing for the A380,

Japan Airlines (JAL) and All Nippon Airways (ANA) are already using Boeing 747 jumbo jets on several domestic routes, and Airbus is hoping the airlines will opt to sign contracts for its wide-body plane.

Air France, Lufthansa and Singapore Airlines already use the A380 for Japan routes to Tokyo's main international airport of Narita.

The first-ever landing of an A380 at Haneda was greeted with a ceremony attended by Economy Minister Rainer Bruederle of Germany, one of the countries involved in the Airbus project.

"For the future, I wish this Airbus flagship that it may become a regular and appreciated visitor here in Haneda," he said in a statement.

Haneda, located closer than Narita to the city centre, is expected to emerge as a major international hub for Japan.

Airport authorities have, however, limited the A380 to quieter night-time hours, fearing delays during crowded daytime operations when other planes have to wait longer because of its powerful wake.

"We believe that these limitations have no technical reason and we are in talks for them to be lifted," said Carcaillet.
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The article in 856 is rubbish.
Which smaller cities do they mean? Besides EK, who have to deploy their thousands of A380 they've ordered anywhere, all routes are trunk routes, or even hub-to-hub. SYD-LAX, FRA-NRT, CDG-JFG, SYD-SIN-LHR, etc. Even SIN-ZRH is a hub to hub route, since Zürich is Swiss' main hub. It's not as important as i.e. FRA for Star Alliance (and thus for Singapore Airlines), but it's a hub. If it wasn't, SIA could never fill 12 weekly flights (or now daily A380s) there.
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interesting article. looks like the A380 might be more successful than initally predicted.




Manchester handled 18,7 million people last year though. 22 million was in 2007 ....since then MAN is losing passengers.
recent figures indicate that passenger numbers are rising.

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Pax numbers down 1.6% but international scheduled up by more than 5%.

and now some number crunching

EK to DXB... around 48000 pax in Sept up 11%. Average 407 pax per flight.
SQ to SIN (via MUC) 7900 pax, up 12%
EY to AUH 18300 pax, up 42%
QR to DOH, 14000% pax, up 2%

To the states and JFK leads the way with 132% increase to over 20,000 pax. ORD is down 22% to under 10,000 pax, PHL 16600 pax, up 13%.

U2 routes against the legacies:
MUC up 112% to 27600 pax, ZRH up 40% to over 24000 pax, HELup 75% to over 10000 pax, CPH up 34% to 17700 pax
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How is it more comfortable though? Seems the seat pitch and width are all the same as other large aircraft types.
Probably coz the seats are newer. Also, a newer plane gives the perception of being comfortable even though it's not.
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World's largest passenger jet makes test flight into New Chitose Airport
The Airbus A380 is pictured after making its first landing at New Chitose Airport on Oct. 17 in Chitose, Hokkaido. (Mainichi)
The Airbus A380 is pictured after making its first landing at New Chitose Airport on Oct. 17 in Chitose, Hokkaido. (Mainichi)

CHITOSE, Hokkaido -- An Airbus A380, the world's largest passenger jet, made a test flight into New Chitose Airport on Oct. 17 in anticipation of services to that airport.

Take-off and landing, the lining up of the boarding bridge, and other procedures were tested.

The A380 is about 73 meters long and has a wingspan of around 80 meters, as well as two full-length decks. The luxurious suite-like accommodations on the A380 have earned it the nickname "6-star hotel on wings."

For the time being, no Japanese airlines have A380s in their fleets, so the only A380s flying into Narita are from overseas companies like Singapore Airlines.

On Oct. 15 the A380 made its first landing at Haneda Airport. The landings at Haneda and New Chitose are aimed at encouraging the beginning of regular flights of the A380 on this profitable route.

"Even now, flights between Haneda and New Chitose are almost completely filled. In the near future, there will be A380 flights between the two," said an Airbus company
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