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Old June 22nd, 2011, 01:10 AM   #2961
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Flying the A380 in that way must be the dream of any commercial pilot thanks for the videos, they're awesome
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 04:56 AM   #2962
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 06:16 AM   #2963
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 07:16 AM   #2964
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What a great video of the Korean A380.. Must be very nice to see the plane in real performing such a nice show..
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 04:45 PM   #2965
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What a great video of the Korean A380.. Must be very nice to see the plane in real performing such a nice show..
Based on the reports in the below A.Net forum there was not going to be a A380 display...

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/5175967/

Sounds like KE stepped in and came to rescue
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 07:55 PM   #2966
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Airbus's own A380 DéDé (F-WWDD) is back!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY_1oBwRBjQ&hd=1



A<380 indeed!

Oh yeah...can also spot a while sticker between the Ethiad and Kingdom logos... since they are arranged in alphabetical order... the rumoured A380 order looks indeed to be Hongkong Airlines!
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 11:48 PM   #2967
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3 A380s the same time at ICN...wow
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 09:07 PM   #2968
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...ygH_story.html

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Airbus says Japanese low-cost carrier Skymark Airlines orders 2 more A380 superjumbos

LE BOURGET, France — Airbus says Japanese low-cost carrier Skymark Airlines has made a firm order for two of its double decker superjumbo A380 aircraft in a deal worth €750 million ($1,070 million) at catalog prices.

Skymark’s order Thursday adds to the four A380s it ordered earlier this year.

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Old June 23rd, 2011, 09:55 PM   #2969
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Curious if Skymark will deploy A380 on domestic routes
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 10:06 PM   #2970
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 10:13 PM   #2971
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@Equario

wikipedia says:
"The airline intends to use the aircraft on a number of long-haul trunk routes out of Narita Airport, like London, Frankfurt or New York."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skymark_Airlines#History
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 11:00 PM   #2972
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"The airline intends to use the aircraft on a number of long-haul trunk routes out of Narita Airport, like London, Frankfurt or New York."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skymark_Airlines#History
Yes, I know about these routes. Provided that Japanese domestic traffic is pretty large and Skymark ordered two more A380, I just thought if Skymark is going deploy them on domestic routes to compete with JAl and ANA.
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 11:16 PM   #2973
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Yes, I know about these routes. Provided that Japanese domestic traffic is pretty large and Skymark ordered two more A380, I just thought if Skymark is going deploy them on domestic routes to compete with JAl and ANA.
Oh, okay. JAL is using 747 i think on some domestic routes.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 03:59 PM   #2974
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Mainland China throws its toys out the pram and blocks the Hongkong Airlines order for 10(!!!) A380s over the planned EU implementation of ETS for air travel...

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c4ce5aa0-9...44feabdc0.html

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China has blocked a multi-billion dollar order for 10 Airbus superjumbo aircraft in a sharp escalation of Beijing’s protests against Europe’s plan to bring international airlines into its emissions trading scheme from the start of next year.

A Hong Kong Airlines order for the planes worth $3.8bn at list prices was due to be formally announced at the Paris air show earlier this week, according to industry executives familiar with the deal.

But Airbus, a division of the European aerospace group, EADS, learned over the weekend that the agreement was being blocked by Beijing and the announcement did not go ahead, the sources said.

“These are not the only orders taken hostage by the Chinese. The A380s are the first,” said one executive, adding there were other Airbus deals with Chinese carriers in the pipeline.

China and the United States have expressed opposition to the European Union’s move to make all airlines flying into Europe pay for their pollution, the most ambitious step yet by Brussels to make the rest of the world comply with its climate change rules.

But China’s action is the most dramatic sign of retaliation against the measure. It is not expected to have any immediate effect on Airbus’s production rates. The manufacturer won 730 orders and commitments from airlines around the world at the Paris air show.

But it may embolden other countries to consider action against the European trading scheme. Airbus declined to comment.

Tom Enders, Airbus chief executive, wrote a joint letter with European airlines recently to the EU climate commissioner, Connie Hedegaard, to warn that it was “madness to risk retaliation” from such influential players as China over the issue.

Ms Hedegaard and José Manuel Barroso, the European Commission president, have both made it clear Brussels has no intention of caving in to such threats.

To do so would set a worrying precedent, said Ms Hedegaard, because “it is up to the Europeans to decide European legislation”.

Until now, large polluters based in Europe such as power companies and cement factories have been covered by the emissions trading scheme the EU launched in 2005.

The scheme forces companies to pay for permits for each tonne of carbon dioxide they emit above a certain level or cap.

It was agreed several years ago, after much debate, that airlines would be brought into the scheme from January 2012.

A lawsuit brought by US airlines that challenges the legality of the scheme is to be heard in the European Court of Justice on July 5.

The US administration formally expressed its concern to EU officials at an aviation meeting in Oslo earlier this week, but there was no talk of retaliation and any further move by the US is not expected until the outcome of the airlines’ court case is known.

A judgement is not expected for some months.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 04:35 PM   #2975
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This sounds kind of a suicide measure for the Chinese... it's them who have an overall trade surplus with the EU, so if there is an escalation of retaliations they're the ones who are going to lose most
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Old June 24th, 2011, 08:20 PM   #2976
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If China boycott Airbus, they can buy Boeing. If Europe boycotts Made in China products, they will buy what exactly?


PS: I am not saying I agree or not with each of the sides.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 10:02 PM   #2977
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The most important sentence is this one:

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Ms Hedegaard and José Manuel Barroso, the European Commission president, have both made it clear Brussels has no intention of caving in to such threats.

To do so would set a worrying precedent, said Ms Hedegaard, because “it is up to the Europeans to decide European legislation”.

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If the Chinese want to fly to Europe they have to obey the European laws like everyone else. Where is the problem?
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Old June 25th, 2011, 01:07 PM   #2978
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I find this blackmail ridiculous.
But i'm also against this eu law which won't help the european and american airlines to go back to their profits pre-crisis and which will raise the tickets's prices.
Let's wait to put this tax when the sector will be well recovered.
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Old June 26th, 2011, 10:25 PM   #2979
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well nobody flies to europe!!! simple as that ... that there are other destinations besides europe ... and let the european carries pay for their emissions in asia (china, Dubia, Tokyo) and in US (New York, LA, Mia) .... I find the law ridiculous and absurd ..
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Old June 27th, 2011, 07:38 AM   #2980
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Ridiculous and absurd? It's the simple 'polluter pays' principle. When (if ever) China and the US will adopt a similar policy, EU carriers will have to comply as they are forced to comply now, what is absurd is the Chinese govt. taking such a childish stance against climate change mitigation measures.
Several airlines already offer the choice of paying a little sum (about 2 US$) to offset carbon emissions, this is just going to make it mandatory for people flying within and to Europe, and I don't see anything ridiculous or threatening in it, quite the opposite.
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