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Old June 27th, 2011, 06:01 PM   #2981
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Old June 27th, 2011, 08:29 PM   #2982
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Old June 27th, 2011, 08:42 PM   #2983
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Old June 27th, 2011, 09:38 PM   #2984
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well nobody flies to europe!!! simple as that ... that there are other destinations besides europe ... and let the european carries pay for their emissions in asia (china, Dubia, Tokyo) and in US (New York, LA, Mia) .... I find the law ridiculous and absurd ..
Cool, European carriers will love that idea of foreign carriers voluntarily retreating from European markets. The European carriers will have the whole market here for themselves then.

The point is, the foreign carriers won't be so stupid as to give up the European market that easily.
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Old June 27th, 2011, 09:41 PM   #2985
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If China boycott Airbus, they can buy Boeing. If Europe boycotts Made in China products, they will buy what exactly?


PS: I am not saying I agree or not with each of the sides.
Except for some low tech products there are few produces where one does not find a non Chinese competitor.
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Old June 27th, 2011, 10:11 PM   #2986
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its a A380 big?





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Old June 27th, 2011, 10:42 PM   #2987
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This sounds kind of a suicide measure for the Chinese... it's them who have an overall trade surplus with the EU, so if there is an escalation of retaliations they're the ones who are going to lose most
This is nothing but a gesture from the Chinese government, I'm pretty sure in a few weeks when things quiet down a little bit the sanction will be lifted quietly.
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Old June 29th, 2011, 06:23 AM   #2988
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Make way for Airbus A-380
ASHWINI PHADNIS

It is feared that if A-380 is allowed, airlines in India will not be able to face the competition. However, flying rights into India are regulated by air service pacts.

A medical emergency has proved once again that the new airports being built in India are capable of handling the world's largest commercial jetliner — the Airbus A-380. Recently an Emirates A-380 aircraft, while on a scheduled flight from Sydney to Dubai, made an emergency landing at Hyderabad airport. This was the fourth instance of the A-380 landing and taking off safely from Indian airports.

All the A-380 flights into India have been special flights, but the largest commercial aircraft has landed and taken off from three different airports. In 2007, Airbus brought the aircraft into Delhi as a special flight for Kingfisher Airlines; the plane then went to Mumbai. The following year the aircraft landed in Hyderabad to take part in the maiden edition of the Hyderabad air show. In fact, at that time the aircraft landed at the now defunct Begumpet airport where the air show was held and then took a short flight to the newly opened Shamshahbad airport before departing for its home base in France.

Yet, Indian authorities have not given permission to global airlines to operate the A-380 to India as part of their scheduled operations. And this when data from Airbus show that the A-380 operates to 11 of the top 15 international airports including in the Asia-Pacific region at Hong Kong, Singapore, Tokyo, Seoul and Bangkok. Besides it operates to Beijing, Auckland and Melbourne.

Currently, the Dubai-based Emirates, German carrier Lufthansa and Singapore Airlines are said to be interested in operating the A-380 into India.

So what is preventing Indian authorities from allowing the A-380 from landing as part of normal scheduled operations by international airlines?

Officially sources say that the Indian market is not yet mature enough to handle the A-380, each aircraft of which can seat up to 550 passengers. Unofficially, the fear is that letting the A-380 fly commercially would mean that airlines in India will not be able to face the competition.

DEVOID OF LOGIC

There does not seem to be much logic in this thinking. To begin with, flying rights into India are regulated by air services agreements that limit the number of flights that an international airline can operate.

Now suppose an airline is keen to operate the A-380 under the existing bilateral, then it will obviously have to decide whether it makes sense for it to operate one flight a day with the A-380, carrying more passengers at one go, or two or more flights a day with a smaller aircraft to provide more flexibility in flight timings.

If the airline does decide to operate the A-380 on the India route, it might have to sacrifice frequency. Flyers could then decide whether they want to travel by the A-380 or opt for another airline that offers more flights on the same route.

So why fear that a foreign airline could fly away with the Indian market? Shouldn't the idea be to let the airlines fly whatever planes they want if they think it is economically viable and let passengers decide what aircraft they would like to fly in?

Further, globally the closest competition to the A-380 is the Boeing 747 which can carry about 400-450 passengers on each flight. Given that most of the airlines which are operating the A-380 are operating it in a three class configuration (first, business and economy), the number of seats on offer will be less than the aircraft's maximum capacity of 550. Take, for example, the Korean Airlines A-380 that carries a maximum of 407 passengers while a Lufthansa A-380 carries 526 passengers. So in fact the A-380 if it is allowed to fly to India will carry a few more than what the aircraft that are already operating carry.

Even if one looks at the existing scenario, the key routes to which Indians fly are served by multiple airlines. Take the India-UK route. While some years ago there were just Air India and British Airways which operated non-stop services on this route, now there are Jet Airways, Kingfisher and Virgin Atlantic also operating direct flights. Besides, there are a number of Gulf and other carriers offering services to the UK. The same is true of flights to the US, Singapore, Malaysia and a host of other countries. All these flights give passengers the option of choosing what suits them the most. The same will be the case with the A-380 if it is allowed to fly in Indian skies.

BILATERALS

Sources also point out that there is another issue which needs to be tackled — that of Air India having the first right of refusal from the Indian side in all the bilaterals that are exchanged with foreign countries. Unofficially private airlines maintain that they have no problems with international carriers getting the A-380 into India provided they are allowed to operate more flights on international routes, but as market analysts point out, Air India does not have enough aircraft to fully utilise the flights it is entitled to under the bilaterals. This, however, is contested by other airlines which argue it is Air India's ostrich-like position of neither surrendering these rights nor allowing others to operate additional flights that is leading to the problem.

Incidentally, Kingfisher Airline is the only Indian carrier that has ordered the A-380 and is expected to take delivery of the first of the five aircraft by about 2016.

(This article was published on June 29, 2011)
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Old June 29th, 2011, 07:56 AM   #2989
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Malaysia Airlines to ban babies from travelling in first class
28 June 2011
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Melbourne, June 28 -- Malaysia Airlines has decided to ban babies from travelling first class on its new Airbus A380 and Boeing 747-400 fleet. According to the Australia Business Traveller, Malaysia Airlines CEO Tengku Azmil said first-class passengers complained about spending a lot of money and not being able to sleep "due to crying infants", the Daily Telegraph reported. The airline has decided not to install bassinets in the first class cabin of its Boeing 747-400 fleet, and those wishing to travel with babies will have to book bassinets in business or economy sections instead. The airline's 747-400s fly between Kuala Lumpur and Sydney, as well as KL-London and KL-Amsterdam, with the Airbus A380s due to take over those routes next year.
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Old June 29th, 2011, 08:15 AM   #2990
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The ministry of Civil aviation in India in plain and simple words is moronic. to say the least.
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Old June 29th, 2011, 04:14 PM   #2991
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PARIS: Skymark to offer lowest-density seating on A380
By David Kaminski-Morrow

Skymark Airlines appears set to offer the lowest-density seating arrangement yet on the Airbus A380.

It intends to configure the aircraft with just 394 seats, said president Shinichi Nishikubo at the Paris air show.

The aircraft would fit 280 premium-economy seats on the lower deck and 114 business-class seats on the upper deck.

Nishikubo said the long journeys from Japan on which the A380s would be deployed had sufficient business for premium economy and business, rather than economy, services.

Korean Air has so far been the lowest-density A380 operator, with 407 seats.

Skymark Airlines has amended its order for A380s and will take six of the type, rather than four.

It has not made an engine selection for the aircraft. Deliveries are scheduled to begin in 2014.
JAL and ANA have certainly gotten caught with their pants down. On another note, Cathay Pacific have always said the A380-800, would "be too small" (ie: not enough belly cargo capacity)... they could actually have it work if they too have some trunk routes in an all/mostly premium config.

Keep parity on belly cargo WRT a Boeing 77W, using 29 LD3s. That leaves just 9 LD3s for pax. Which equals 450 bags. Lets say 1.5 bags per pax. So about 300 pax. Then...

~84 J class all on the upper deck. ~12 F at the nose a la SQ. That leaves 204, which could be all Y+, something which CX still have been making noise about and makes a change to have some revenue generating non-F/J for a change. Depending on actual baggage rules, guess you can throw in a few regular Y seats as well.
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Old June 30th, 2011, 06:48 AM   #2992
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Seems like the babies are back at the front of the A380 :

MAS: No baby ban in first class
30 June 2011
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KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia Airlines yesterday denied there was a ban on babies in its first class cabins in certain aircraft.

The national carrier said in a statement, there was no such policy, following foreign reports claiming otherwise.

Several online news portals reported yesterday that MAS had banned babies travelling in first class on its new Airbus A380 and Boeing 747-400 fleet.

MAS chief executive officer and managing director Tengku Azmil Zahruddin was quoted in Australia Business Traveller that the move came following complaints from first-class passengers who could not sleep during their flights because of wailing infants.

Director of operations Capt Mohamed Azharuddin Osman clarified that the confusion was because of the reconfiguration of the B747s, which was mounted into the flight network since November 2004.

He said the new reconfiguration allowed seats to be converted into flat beds and it did not accommodate space for a bassinet in the first class cabins.

"Malaysia Airlines has always accepted infants for travel in economy and business class for flights operated by 747 aircraft.

"These are equipped with bassinet facilities to cater for infant travel."

In 2003, Malaysia Airlines revamped the first and business class cabins of the B747s. The seats in first class were reduced from 18 to 12 for extra cabin space and legroom.

Each new seat came with an electrically operated ottoman that doubled as a visitor seat and could convert to a flat bed with the main seat.

The B747 aircraft is used for flights on certain routes, such as Sydney-Kuala Lumpur, Kuala Lumpur-London, Kuala Lumpur-Amsterdam and Kuala Lumpur-Buenos Aires.
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Old June 30th, 2011, 07:50 AM   #2993
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Old July 1st, 2011, 04:52 AM   #2994
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Old July 1st, 2011, 04:55 AM   #2995
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Old July 1st, 2011, 06:53 AM   #2996
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Why U.S. Airlines Don't Fly the Airbus A380


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...........The U.S. carriers, "prefer frequency over size," said aviation consultant Scott Hamilton. In their hubs, several times each day, dozens of airplanes fly in, exchange passengers and fly out, and the carriers often prefer to serve international destinations more than once a day -- or they simply don't have enough passengers to a given destination to fly an A380

..........McAdoo said that over time, U.S. carriers have reduced their 747 use in favor of smaller aircraft like the 777. He said while the 747 is often used on flights to Narita, where passengers connect to points throughout Asia, newer, smaller aircraft including the 787 mean that those passengers, going forward, will be able to bypass Narita, reducing demand for the A380.

..........A curiosity of A380 usage so far is that some route selection is counter-intuitive. Instead of flying to partner United's hub in Chicago, Lufthansa flies to competitor American's hub in Miami. Instead of flying to partner Delta's hub in Atlanta, AirFrance flies to competitor United's hub at Dulles. Also, Air France flies a Paris/Montreal route, something few experts expected because Montreal is a relatively small city.

Lufthansa spokesman Martin Riecken said it's probably a little early to draw conclusions on A380 usage. For Lufthansa, he said, "this is just the beginning -- we have taken delivery of seven out of 15 [A380s]." Other U.S. cities could be in the mix in the future, he indicated. Lufthansa currently serves 17 U.S. cities.

As far as Lufthansa's choice of Miami as a destination, Lufthansa formerly flew a 747 on the Frankfurt-Miami route. "It was always oversold, more or less," Riecken said. "This was a perfect opportunity to increase capacity without a second flight." By contrast, on the Frankfurt-Dulles route, Lufthansa already has two daily flights on a 747 and an A340. "It would be hard to put in an additional 200 seats," Riecken said, even though United, Lufthansa's partner in a transatlantic joint venture that enables revenue sharing, has a Dulles hub.

AirFrance, however, was willing to try it, even without a partner in Dulles, because it was flying three widebodies between Paris and Dulles. Now it has just two flights, one on a 777 and one on the A380, but a similar amount of capacity.

In the case of AirFrance, McConnell said, the A 380 brought obvious efficiencies. "The A380 is difficult to compete against," he said. "It's extremely popular -- it gets a revenue premium -- and it is cost efficient to operate."

-- Written by Ted Reed in Charlotte, N.C.
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Old July 1st, 2011, 08:04 AM   #2997
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747's don't fly on many domestic US routes at all. Other than the trunk city pairs perhaps across the Atlantic, I still don't envision US carriers to stray from their narrow-body / single-aisle aircraft use.
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Old July 2nd, 2011, 07:11 PM   #2998
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US airlines dont need to fly big planes on a big protion of the routes. We have so many express routes now a days. We are not like UAE or France that have no or small percentage of routes domestically. They make money flying international routes with the a380 and the T7 or other planes. We fly big jets on the transcontinental flights.
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because without US military contracts there would be no boeing(same for airbus and europe)
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Old July 4th, 2011, 12:19 AM   #3000
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Never see any american airliner at Australian airports. They seem to let Qantas do all the flying and only participate with codeshare. If they flew themselves they would need more widebody planes (747,A380).
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