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Old July 14th, 2011, 04:58 AM   #3021
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Simple. Flight cycles. Aircraft need inspection after an "x" number of flights flown rather than number of miles flown. As domestic flights are shorter than typical long haul flights (PEK-SHA & PEK-CAN are just 1.5 to 2.5 hours, versus 10+ on "typical" A380 routes), it is generally not cost effective to run such aircraft on such short routes, multiple times a day.

Now you mention Boeing 747s. These were the specially designed 747-300SR, mostly used in Japan. Besides smaller fuel tanks and extra seats, they also (most importantly) have strengthened landing gear, so they can undergo more cycles before the aircraft needs service.

So, the A380 as it stands isn't built for such missions and my own personal suspicion is that CZ will actually be using PEK-CAN/PEK-SHA as tag-on legs on long haul flights, namely CDG-CAN-PEK and JFK-PEK-SHA, much like what Singapore Airlines and Emirates do with their LHR-SIN-HKG (SQ) and DXB-SYD-AKL/DXB-BKK-HKG (EK) flights.
I understand the flight cycle argument, but if there's demand why not? And I wasn't talking about the Japanese 747's only. I can give you the example of Pakistan where you have 747 flights between cities and they're always full. We've had them for more than 20 years.

OK, read your second post, I didn't know A380 was designed for so few cycles. But I'm guessing because of crazy low cost per mile compared to a narrowbody, the airline will make much more money and probably wouldn't make a difference in the end.
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Old July 14th, 2011, 10:43 AM   #3022
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Now you mention Boeing 747s. These were the specially designed 747-300SR, mostly used in Japan. Besides smaller fuel tanks and extra seats, they also (most importantly) have strengthened landing gear, so they can undergo more cycles before the aircraft needs service.
I believe it's 747-400D. Besides improved landings gear, wiglets were also removed, in order to reduce wing flex.
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Old July 15th, 2011, 06:02 AM   #3025
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I tried getting a flight on the A380 from ICN to BKK next month but couldn't get any seats. I'll have to "settle" for the 777 but I hear they've been modernized very nicely though. :-)
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Old July 15th, 2011, 07:11 AM   #3026
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Old July 17th, 2011, 05:19 PM   #3028
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Old July 17th, 2011, 08:29 PM   #3030
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Old July 18th, 2011, 04:21 PM   #3031
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I tried getting a flight on the A380 from ICN to BKK next month but couldn't get any seats. I'll have to "settle" for the 777 but I hear they've been modernized very nicely though. :-)


To put it bluntly ... you have not missed anything, I took it from SFN to Frankfurt, very disappointed with the place on the plane, the seats were narrow and hard, not comfortable at all. The toilets were narrow and too few. The aircraft can be compared to a charter machine .... not good Lufthansa

To put it this way .... Boeing 777 Thai Airways are much more comfortable aircraft.

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Old July 19th, 2011, 08:58 AM   #3032
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Dont know about Lufthansa, but I took a flight from Paris to Dubai last fall...and it was an amazing experience. First thing you notice is the cabin is significantly quieter... and imagine the sound those 4 massive engines would be making.

The seats were good, comfortable and had good legroom. Also being Emirates, the entertainment was superb as was the service. Overall, a big winner in my book and something I'll like to try again probably this coming December.
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Old July 20th, 2011, 04:42 AM   #3033
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Emirates’ A380 Awaits India Approval as Rules Block Flights of Superjumbo
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Jul 20, 2011 2:31 AM GMT+0800

Emirates Airline celebrated the opening of the new terminal at the New Delhi airport last year by flying in an Airbus SAS A380.

The plane has not returned since. India’s government has not acted on requests to change regulations that bar overseas carriers, including Emirates and Deutsche Lufthansa AG (LHA), from flying aircraft bigger than the Boeing Co. 747 into the country. That rules out the A380.

The two airlines are eager to tap India’s growing travel market with the A380, the world’s biggest passenger aircraft. They have run up against policies that protect state-owned Air India Ltd., according to Rishikesha Krishnan, a professor of corporate strategy at the Indian Institute of Management in Bangalore.

“All these measures are to shore up Air India and they completely distort the market,” said Krishnan, who writes papers about India’s aviation industry. “They are all misguided restrictive practices and not in the best interest of Indian aviation.”

The rules deny more choices for passengers and reduce competition for Air India, Krishnan said. The carrier merged with state-owned Indian Airlines in 2007 and has received 20 billion rupees ($449 million) of public funds since April 1, 2009.
Cost Advantage

Nasim Zaidi, secretary at the Ministry of Civil Aviation, declined to comment when asked if the government was delaying A380 approvals to help Air India. An Air India spokesman declined to comment, and Air India Chairman Arvind Jadhav did not respond to two calls to his mobile phone, calls to his office and e-mailed questions.

The A380 offers a “significant cost advantage to airlines, allowing them to price tickets cheaper,” said Amber Dubey, a Gurgaon, India-based director at auditing and consulting company KPMG. “That’s the reason some Indian carriers are concerned.”

Lufthansa, which flies to seven destinations in India with 52 weekly flights, is ready to operate the A380 to New Delhi as soon as India allows the service, the airline said in an e-mail response to questions.
‘Hugely Popular’

Emirates, owner of the world’s largest fleet of A380s, anticipates strong demand for the superjumbo in the country, Tim Clark, president of the airline, said in an interview.

“We want to take the A380 to India. It would be hugely popular,” Clark said. “Our expansion plans depend on the Indian government -- they make the call on whether we can increase our frequencies.”

The A380 can seat 525 people in a typical three-class configuration, while a similar Boeing 747 can fly 416 people. The A380 has a wingspan of 262 feet (80 meters) and stands almost 80 feet tall from the ground to the top of its tail.

Airports across India, including New Delhi’s, have undergone renovation and runway extensions to accommodate the A380, said V.P. Agrawal, chairman of the state-run Airports Authority of India. Delhi’s airport added three gates -- 15, 17 and 19 -- specifically meant for the plane.

“Delhi and Hyderabad airports are built exactly to the requirement of an A380,” Agrawal told Bloomberg July 14. “A380 operations from Delhi were not permitted. I’m not sure why, but maybe others see a threat.”
Lucrative Routes

Airports in Mumbai, the southern city of Chennai and Kolkata in the east can also handle the plane, Agrawal said. Kingfisher Airlines Ltd. (KAIR), the only Indian carrier to have ordered the A380, will start taking the plane in 2016, Chairman Vijay Mallya said June 6.

Allowing Emirates to fly the A380 into India would intensify competition for Air India on routes to the Gulf, which are among its most lucrative, said P.C.K. Ravindran, chairman of Kochi-based Institute of Applied Aviation Management.

“So long as Air India is a state property, the government will have to take care of its interest,” said Ravindran, who advises on air projects and has written a book about India’s regulatory framework. “Air India is not just competing with Emirates -- it is fighting for room with Etihad, Air Arabia and RAK Airways, and let’s not forget Indian carriers flying to the Gulf.”

Flights to the Gulf region, where 2.2 million Indians migrated for work between 2007 and 2009, accounted for 49 percent of Air India’s overseas services, according to the Civil Aviation Ministry’s annual report for the year ended in March.
Air India’s Troubles

Air India has about 53 weekly flights to Dubai, mostly using Airbus 321 jets that can seat 172 people. Its low-fare unit Air India Express operates 54 weekly flights, Chief Operating Officer S. Chandrakumar told Bloomberg by text message on July 12.

The company also has more immediate problems. It may receive 17 billion rupees from the government to help the carrier pay salaries and maintain services, according to a company official familiar with the matter. Air India is seeking as much as 175 billion rupees from the government to help reduce debt and pay for planes on order after posting four years of annual loss. The airline is working on a financial restructuring plan to pare debt of 400 billion rupees as of March.

As of April last year, Indian carriers were eligible to sell 711,356 seats per week on flights to and from 104 countries. They utilized only 170,914 seats a week, compared with 326,705 seats by overseas airlines, official data showed.

Air India’s struggles have come as foreign airlines nearly doubled service to and from India in 2010 compared with six years ago, according to data from the Civil Aviation Ministry. Boeing expects a market of 1,320 new passenger planes in India over the next 20 years.
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KAL is supposed to have a very nice configuration in their A380 with all the nice AVOD enhancements, etc., in addition to a few other luxury passenger features.
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Airbus A380 In Vietnam Airlinesa?? 2020 Fleet Plan

Jul 11, 2011

By Leithen Francis

Vietnam Airlines plans to add Airbus A380s to its fleet, but remains tight-lipped on when that will be.

The carrier’s fleet plan, currently before government for approval, lists the Airbus A380 as a type it plans to acquire, according to local news reports, citing unnamed officials at the Ministry of Transport.

The ministry has told the airline to study the market and investigate Vietnam’s airport infrastructure, to ensure there is sufficient demand to fill the aircraft and that local airports can support such a large airliner, according to the reports.

Vietnam Airlines’ spokesman declined comment on the reports when contacted by Aviation Week on July 11. “The master plan is now before government for approval, and it discusses our fleet deployment to the year 2020, but it’s confidential and we don’t have approval yet,” he says.

The national carrier has a fleet of 66 aircraft and another 60 on order: 34 A321s, 10 A350s and 16 Boeing 787s. It faces relatively little competition in its home market because other carriers there have struggled to grow. Vietnam Airlines is also planning to branch out more internationally by, for example, launching services to London and the U.S.
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Old July 21st, 2011, 06:14 AM   #3036
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^ So they haven't ordered but are thinking of doing so?
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Old July 21st, 2011, 10:00 AM   #3037
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That is great to hear.. I do hope they order the A380..
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Old July 21st, 2011, 10:05 AM   #3038
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Thai Airways has released a YouTube video showing the interiors of its forthcoming A380 superjumbo.

The seven-minute video shows the seating layout, toilets and bars throughout both decks of the aircraft, with highlights including a "multi purposes area" in first class featuring seats and tables.

There are also self-service bars in both Royal Silk Class (business) and Royal First Class, with both premium cabins being located on the upper deck of the superjumbo.

The carrier has also released details of the seating products in economy, business and first class. Thai's A380 will boast the fewest number of seats on the upper deck of any A380 so far at just 72 (60 in business class and 12 in first class), although by contrast its lower deck will be the mosty densely configured, with a total of 435 economy seats.
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