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Old February 4th, 2005, 12:31 AM   #321
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A380 can hold upto 800 people. 747 can hold about 450 max.
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Old February 4th, 2005, 12:34 AM   #322
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If they don't waste space on bars, restaurants or whatever, the A380 can carry a lot more. I'm pretty sure the number of people that the planes will carry will ultimately be decided by the airlines, as they factor in the balance of efficiency and availability of facilities and luxuries.

At the extreme end, maybe a low-cost carrier can use all the space for economy-class seats and fill it with somewhere beyond 800 people. I heard that is possible with the A380.
... When you're on a 15-hour flight on an A380, you'll be glad you can walk up and go to that bar you call a "waste" of space. So will the pilots, but that's another story...

Btw the A380-900 series could hold up to 1,000 people if packed with nothing but seats. I think if there was an airline that was stupid enough to do that, I'd choose a different carrier.
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Old February 4th, 2005, 12:41 AM   #323
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The A380-900 hasnt been planned yet. Airlines have asked for a longer version which would be very likely to be called the A380-900. I recon it would have about 900 seats I think a 1000 is pushing it.
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Old February 4th, 2005, 02:20 AM   #324
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This one (the A380-800) is going to habe permission to fly with up to 850 (or something around that) pax.
Obviously only a charter airline, or some inner Japan service would use the plane that way.
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Old February 6th, 2005, 05:09 PM   #325
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Anyone got any more news on when its set to fly or has everything just gone dead now. Went on the Airbus site and theres nowt new.
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Old February 6th, 2005, 08:14 PM   #326
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the first test flight is expected to be around late March or early April.
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Old February 6th, 2005, 09:31 PM   #327
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A380 can hold upto 800 people. 747 can hold about 450 max.
Standard 747-400s carry 420 in 3 class, 530 in two class configuration, and about 570 in single class. Only airlines in Japan use the the single class cofiguration. It is also possible to put over 600 seats in a 747, but no carrier has chosen to do so.

As a side note, a 747-200 was once packed with over 1,000 refugees from a conflict. The flight even landed with one more passenger onboard than when it took off; a woman gave birth during the flight.

Just an intersting anecdote.
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Old February 6th, 2005, 09:52 PM   #328
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I'm sure the total weight of the passengers remained equal after the birth
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Old February 6th, 2005, 10:07 PM   #329
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and I'm sure 1,000 regugees weighed less than 570 people from the US...
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Old February 7th, 2005, 09:37 PM   #330
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The flight even landed with one more passenger onboard than when it took off; a woman gave birth during the flight.
Haha thats mad. 570 people from the US wouldnt be able to fit on a 747. Maybe from Uk or Japan but never the US.
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Old February 10th, 2005, 01:11 AM   #331
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4 February 2005
A380 WING BENDING TESTS CONDUCTED SUCCESSFULLY

Another important milestone is passed with the success of the wing bending tests.

The wing bending test was performed successfully up to limit load on the A380 static test aircraft on 2 February. Limit load is the maximum load that an aircraft is expected to encounter during its service life. There are many limit load cases representing different flight conditions but wing bending is considered to be the most significant. The test confirmed a good correlation with the predictions.

This very significant milestone in the certification phase of the A380 was witnessed by members of the European Joint Aviation Authorities, Airbus airworthiness specialists and senior technical managers. The data is now being sent to Filton, UK for detailed analysis in preparation for flight test and further static testing above limit load.

The following day the wing was again subjected to limit wing bending. This loading condition was held for approximately 45 minutes whilst functioning tests of the spoilers and ailerons were carried out. The tests showed that the control surfaces moved in accordance with design intentions. The control surfaces were not loaded during these tests.

Another mandatory test was performed with success a day later, the 1.33 times “Delta p” (internal cabin pressure) test on the static test specimen. This testing forms part of the mandatory testing before a first flight or a new aircraft.

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Old February 10th, 2005, 01:25 AM   #332
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4 February 2005
GUESTBOOK SHOWS A380 IMPACT

The worldwide impact of the A380 Reveal is all-too-clear from the sheer enthusiasm and goodwill of the thousands of messages which poured into the Airbus website dedicated Guestbook. Messages came from every corner of the globe, from each continent, from every type of person and from people of all ages. The unveiling of the biggest and most advanced passenger aircraft the world has seen left few unmoved, it seems.

Pride and passion dominated these messages. Some wrote of how proud they felt of what they saw as a truly magnificent achievement of European industry and international co-operation, echoing the sentiments expressed by the four national leaders who attended the Reveal ceremony. Others wrote with passion about looking forward to the day of the A380’s maiden flight – and of their dreams of one day flying in the world’s first double-deck passenger jet. There were many who simply expressed their admiration and offered deep congratulations to everyone at Airbus and all those associated with the A380 programme. More than 4,000 messages came into the A380 Guestbook.

To enable visitors to the Airbus website to enjoy them in full, we are publishing them in downloadable form in several parts, beginning with the first thousand.

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Old February 16th, 2005, 02:01 PM   #333
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The A380-900 hasnt been planned yet. Airlines have asked for a longer version which would be very likely to be called the A380-900. I recon it would have about 900 seats I think a 1000 is pushing it.
I think the A380 needs to be a bit longer, it kinda looks stubby but all in all, not a bad looking plane at all.
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TAILBUMPER


The tailbumper protects the fuselage and tail cone from damage due to contact with the ground during low-speed take-off tests (known as VMU tests) that an aircraft must complete as part of the stringent certification process. Though crucial to these certification tests, the tailbumper is generally unnecessary for in-service aircraft so is seldom incorporated into a completed aircraft destined for customer use.

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Old February 16th, 2005, 09:21 PM   #335
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The A380-900 hasnt been planned yet. Airlines have asked for a longer version which would be very likely to be called the A380-900. I recon it would have about 900 seats I think a 1000 is pushing it.
The only airline that's requested the longer A380 is Emirates. However, that airline, much like the UAE as a whole lately, is size crazy. They'd be wiser to fill their 43 dash 800's before getting anything larger.

And the stretch A380 is planned to have just over 1,000 in single-class seating, but I highly doubt any airline will cram that many people into one plane.
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^ Yes, the 380-900 is planned to have "just" 656 seats in the regular 3 class configuration.
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Old February 19th, 2005, 03:16 PM   #337
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The only airline that's requested the longer A380 is Emirates. However, that airline, much like the UAE as a whole lately, is size crazy. They'd be wiser to fill their 43 dash 800's before getting anything larger.

And the stretch A380 is planned to have just over 1,000 in single-class seating, but I highly doubt any airline will cram that many people into one plane.
They have been more airlines asking for a longer plane. Virgin Atlantic have also ask for airbus to build a longer one. There are 2 or 3 others but I dont know who they are.

How do you know that the next A380 will have a 1000 seats? Its not even been planned yet!
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Several A380 models are planned: the basic aircraft is the 555 seat A380-800. The A380-800F freighter will be able to carry a 150 tonne payload and is due to enter service in 2008. Potential future models will include the shortened, 480 seat A380-700, and the stretched, 656 seat, A380-900.
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Old February 19th, 2005, 03:39 PM   #339
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Thanks I've seen some prove now.
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Old February 20th, 2005, 06:39 PM   #340
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Airbus A380 has stress test problems - Der Spiegel

FRANKFURT, Feb 19 (Reuters) - Engineers at European planemaker Airbus (EAD.PA) are battling problems in stress tests for the new A380 superjumbo, Germany's Der Spiegel magazine reported on Saturday.

There were "unexpected and significant difficulties" with the rear end of the plane when tests were carried out on it, the magazine quoted an insider as saying.

The landing gear is also causing engineers concern, the magazine reported, adding that the A380's first flight in March could be delayed by weeks.

An Airbus spokesman said the stress tests were heading in the right direction within the company's expectations, Der Spiegel said.

Airbus could not immediately be reached for comment.

The A380, which is the world's biggest civil aircraft and was formally unveiled in Toulouse, in France, last month, can seat between 555 and 850 passengers and has a list price of between $200 million and $250 million.
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