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Old April 9th, 2005, 11:10 PM   #381
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It his hugeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

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Old April 9th, 2005, 11:26 PM   #382
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kony, the A380 was moved to the flight test preparation department of the Airbus plant just recently. (check airbus.com for more info). So that means the first flight is easily two weeks away from now.
yeah i know but i just wanted to insist that it hasn't been transported from a construction place to this airport...andysimo seemed to think that the construction place was in another city from the airport, but it's all in the same huge area...
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Old April 10th, 2005, 01:41 AM   #383
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Turning on the engines:

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Old April 10th, 2005, 01:46 AM   #384
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WOW!!!! The picture of the engines is just amazing!
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Old April 10th, 2005, 06:05 AM   #385
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I was wondering, is this how they're gonna build all the A380's? I'm not sure how planes are built but I thought building everything in the same area was the way to go instead of building one thing somewhere else and transporting it. I've never built a plane before but maybe someone could enlighten me.
While planes are certainly more complex than cars one might still look at car manufacturers as an example. Car manufacturers are truly private companies operating under tough competition in a free market therefore one might suspect that it would make economic sense to have the complete production and assembly of all parts that make up a car in one location.

Yet most cars are made of highly prefrabricated parts coming from different plants all over the world. Some plants make engines, some make seats, some make plastic parts for the interior, etc... It looks like the transportation costs are outweight by other advantages. These advantages come from specialization. But why can't you have all specialists at one site? The reason is that the workforce available at one site is not infinite. Especially not in case of highly skilled individuals.

Take KIA motors as an example, they have recently build a brandnew R&D center in Rüsselsheim (near Frankfurt). Why did they do that? Why didn't they simply enlarge their R&D in Korea? Are they stupid? Isn't communication between Germany and Korea much more cumbersome than having all the R&D staff concentrated in Korea where they can simply walk from once office to the other in a matter of minutes and meet and discuss?

No, because there is no unlimited pool of researcher and developers available in Korea and KIA has probably to a large part already recruted those available but in Rüsselsheim there is a big GM owned Opel plant and as you might know GM is in trouble and fires more and more people. That means there are alot of R&D people available in Rüsselsheim right now and therefore it is a very wise move from KIA to build their new R&D right beside the GM one.

Another aspect encouraging you to distribute your operations is the fact that risks are averaged out. i.e. in case of Airbus there's a problem with the local population in Hamburg which doesn't want to accept an enlarged runway for whatever reasons. Now these kind of things can happen to any of your production sites, political problems, natural disasters, etc... If you have several production locations you can react to these kind of threats quickly and minimize their impact, but if all your operations would be concentrated at one site it could mean the end of your existence if anything unplanned happens.

So while the different Airbus plants were certainly originally spread over several countries out of political reasons this doesn't necessarily mean that it is an economic disadvantage because it fosters specialization and minimizes risks and the transport costs are minute in comparison to the advantages gained. That's why basically any industry in the world moves more and more in that direction and the world trade increases more and more instead of decrease.

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Old April 10th, 2005, 10:57 AM   #386
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Are those engines smoking just a bit more than i am used to seeing?? :P
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Old April 10th, 2005, 02:23 PM   #387
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It happens every time you start a jet engine from cold. kerosine is even less combustive than diesel and of course than regular unleaded gas. Before engines warm up, combustion isn't complete, therefore throws this smoke coming from unburned fuel turning into a big cloud of steam and smoke.
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Old April 10th, 2005, 07:03 PM   #388
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yeah i know but i just wanted to insist that it hasn't been transported from a construction place to this airport...andysimo seemed to think that the construction place was in another city from the airport, but it's all in the same huge area...
What? I never said it was at another city I said its in the airport. The plane is in the airport because its soon going to fly. Why else would it be there? Durrrrr
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Old April 10th, 2005, 07:53 PM   #389
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First rolling on runway with 4 engines!

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Old April 10th, 2005, 09:22 PM   #390
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What? I never said it was at another city I said its in the airport. The plane is in the airport because its soon going to fly. Why else would it be there? Durrrrr
wo cool down mate, no one has been killed ! i just thought that you were unaware that the cnstruction site and the airport were the same location...that's all, don't make it a big deal !
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Old April 10th, 2005, 09:27 PM   #391
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wo cool down mate, no one has been killed ! i just thought that you were unaware that the cnstruction site and the airport were the same location...that's all, don't make it a big deal !
This is cool! You wana see me type when am not cool.
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Old April 10th, 2005, 09:30 PM   #392
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theres alot of space above the cockpit...anyone know whats in it? or what its gonna be used for?
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Old April 10th, 2005, 11:39 PM   #393
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It will be cabin crew space. Eg a room with beds so they can rest on long flights.
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Old April 11th, 2005, 02:36 AM   #394
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^And also space for the stairs from the main deck to the upper deck. Those stairs are straight and not "curly" like the ones in the back.
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Old April 13th, 2005, 01:03 PM   #395
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This pic show that tha a380 F-WWOW can move under it's own power, this picture was taken last friday at Toulouse.

The are speculations that the first flight will take place on the 20th op april

The 3rd picture shows the combustion of the storrage oil in the engines during the destorage of the engines.








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Old April 13th, 2005, 05:22 PM   #396
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Those pix have been posted here already !


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This pic show that tha a380 F-WWOW can move under it's own power,
well that's nothing surprising considering this aircraft is supposed to fly by itself in just a few days...
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Old April 13th, 2005, 06:29 PM   #397
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Those pix have been posted here already !
Only the last picture, the other ones are new on this forum.

I can't wait to see this beaty lifting off for the first time!
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Old April 13th, 2005, 06:35 PM   #398
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Only the last picture, the other ones are new on this forum.

I can't wait to see this beaty lifting off for the first time!
yeah i can't wait either,it's gonna be a blast !
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Old April 13th, 2005, 06:46 PM   #399
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look at the a380 compared to next a-340-600 that aircraft reminds me of a 727 next to dc 10 , that thing is huge
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