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Old October 17th, 2012, 09:54 PM   #4141
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Ah. And how loud are the AN-225's engines when taking off and landing?
Pretty loud. Louder than engines of 747-400 for sure.
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Old October 18th, 2012, 12:47 AM   #4142
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Pretty loud. Louder than engines of 747-400 for sure.
Ah yes. What is the loudest aircraft you've ever heard that nearly made you "deaf" because of its engine noise?
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Old October 18th, 2012, 05:20 AM   #4143
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Ah yes. What is the loudest aircraft you've ever heard that nearly made you "deaf" because of its engine noise?
Concorde!
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Old October 18th, 2012, 07:38 AM   #4144
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Concorde!
Oh really? Hmmm, and if the Concorde was still in operation today, where do you think it should go next? Probably the A380 is a good compromise for the demise of the Concorde, but I think it won't be enough to bring back Supersonic air travel...
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Old October 18th, 2012, 02:14 PM   #4145
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Boeing tried to market a new almost super sonic plane back in 2001, but there was no interest from the airlines and it was shelved a year later. It could have been bad timing with the post 9/11 effect on the airline industry. But even without those events the full prices would have gone up anyway. Boeing went on to develop the 787, and the A380 the exact opposite development compared to supersonic travel because a good fuel economy per seat was one of the most important reasons why Airbus developed such a big plane.

If the Concorde crash didn't happen it would still have gone out of service within years, also because noise regulations have become much more strict at many airports including London and Paris. And that remains one of the biggest problems with future developments, how to develop a supersonic plane that is quiet enough to be used at most airports. The quietness of the A380 could even be used by policy makers to further reduce the allowed noise levels, the A380 proofs that a very quiet plane is possible. Making the development of a supersonic plane even harder.
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Old October 18th, 2012, 07:13 PM   #4146
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I personally think the need for a supersonic plane is, nowadays, a really small niche which doesn't worth the billions that such a program would require.
I say nowadays because now internet is everywhere, all around the world, on millions of phones, even in the aircrafts if we stay in the topic, the proper need to do for example the famous concorde route Paris/London - New-York in less than 4 hours is really low for businessmen (if we think about the main passengers flying the concorde), much lower than 20 years ago.
I would be curious to know what are the budgets invested in supersonic researches at both Boeing and Airbus compared to bio fuel researches for example.
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Old October 18th, 2012, 09:15 PM   #4147
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Question: does Boeing provide a WiFi antenna as an extra feature for the 787? Or would the airline have that option with third-party companies?

Plus is in-seat power standard for all passenger-type 787s? If so, is it an AC plug or DC plug?
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Old October 18th, 2012, 11:35 PM   #4148
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That's an off topic question, more appropriate for the 787 thread. I will answer it there.
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Old October 19th, 2012, 03:30 AM   #4149
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Whoops, I messed up.

I would ask the same questions for the A380 because it seems like those features are also being rolled out as well.
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Old October 20th, 2012, 03:38 AM   #4150
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Is this a 'CANTEEN' or something?? IT LOOKS SO BLAND FOR A FIRST CLASS! MY OFFICE PANTRY LOOKS MUCH BETTER!
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Old October 20th, 2012, 05:22 AM   #4151
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First of all, you might wanna lower your text size for a comment.

I think it looks much more of a classroom seat with a table, but with a lie-flat bed. Is this the C/J class or F class?
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Old October 20th, 2012, 06:51 AM   #4152
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I think it looks much more of a classroom seat with a table, but with a lie-flat bed. Is this the C/J class or F class?
It's Thai Airways F/C...
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Old October 20th, 2012, 06:52 AM   #4153
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It's Thai Airways F/C...
Dang. I thought the F class seating arrangement is in a staggered format... but that surely reminds me of EK's suites.
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Old October 21st, 2012, 02:57 PM   #4154
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I personally think the need for a supersonic plane is, nowadays, a really small niche which doesn't worth the billions that such a program would require.
I say nowadays because now internet is everywhere, all around the world, on millions of phones, even in the aircrafts if we stay in the topic, the proper need to do for example the famous concorde route Paris/London - New-York in less than 4 hours is really low for businessmen (if we think about the main passengers flying the concorde), much lower than 20 years ago.
I would be curious to know what are the budgets invested in supersonic researches at both Boeing and Airbus compared to bio fuel researches for example.
You're only looking at one set of people (businessmen) because supersonic would always be supeexpensive as well. If, disregarding the laws of physics, you could fly from America to India for cheap in 4 hours, the number of people visiting "home" would explode.
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You're only looking at one set of people (businessmen) because supersonic would always be supeexpensive as well. If, disregarding the laws of physics, you could fly from America to India for cheap in 4 hours, the number of people visiting "home" would explode.
But only because, today, such a program would still be mega expensive, in studies, conception, and then maintenance of these aircrafts, so the market for supersonic is really small.
But of course, if costs for supersonic flights would get closer to today jet flight costs, then it would be a new chapter for aviation history, and the travelers number would literally explode but this story is a bit like flying cars, we've been saying it's tomorrow for decades but still nothing in 2012.

Sorry about the off topic.

To go back on the a380 : Both Air France and Lufthansa are thinking about sending their 380's to Sao Paulo (GRU) in 2014.
In french : http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-...-football.html
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that would be great news for Brazil, especially it will host both the World Cup and the Olympics. Let's see if EK will follow suit too.
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looks like MH has really resurrected itself to become a great airline again. Will PR invest in getting them too? And how many more A380s will MH or SQ get?
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