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Old July 10th, 2013, 12:04 AM   #5181
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Old July 10th, 2013, 01:45 AM   #5182
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Old July 10th, 2013, 03:29 AM   #5183
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Enjoying the summer sun lol.

Such a shame it won't be delivered this year. Anyway, 2014 will be a great year for A380: first deliveries to Qatar Airways, Asiana, Etihad and Skymark. Air Austral was scheduled to receive one of their 2 A380's but apparently that's not happening.

Aside from these airlines only Hong Kong Airlines, Transaero and Virgin remain in the future operator list.
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Old July 10th, 2013, 05:18 AM   #5184
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I thought Hong Kong Airlines scrapped their A380 order already?
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Old July 10th, 2013, 12:07 PM   #5185
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The Hong Kong Airlines order is still listed in the order book.
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Old July 10th, 2013, 01:10 PM   #5186
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Enjoying the summer sun lol.

Such a shame it won't be delivered this year. Anyway, 2014 will be a great year for A380: first deliveries to Qatar Airways, Asiana, Etihad and Skymark. Air Austral was scheduled to receive one of their 2 A380's but apparently that's not happening.

Aside from these airlines only Hong Kong Airlines, Transaero and Virgin remain in the future operator list.
Really? Just how long does it take to assemble a jet anyway? Qatar's looks complete from the outside, so the inside can take upwards of 6 months??
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Old July 10th, 2013, 05:09 PM   #5187
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Really? Just how long does it take to assemble a jet anyway? Qatar's looks complete from the outside, so the inside can take upwards of 6 months??
Plus they aren't taking delivery of it until the new airport is open and is operational. The current airport cant handle the A380.
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Old July 10th, 2013, 05:31 PM   #5188
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The Hong Kong Airlines order is still listed in the order book.
From pg 154 of this thread :

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Hong Kong Air Seeks A380 Order Swap for Smaller Aircraft
By Jasmine Wang - Dec 6, 2012 12:00 AM GMT+0800
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Hong Kong Airlines, holder of the biggest backlog of Airbus SAS A380 orders in Asia, is seeking to swap some planes for smaller models because of a new focus on short-haul routes.

The carrier is discussing changing at least some of its 10 on-order A380s for A330s, and delaying deliveries, President Yang Jianhong said by phone yesterday, without giving a timeframe for when talks may be concluded. Airbus doesn’t comment on negotiations with customers, said spokesman Sean Lee.

Hong Kong Air, which is backed by China’s HNA Group, said in August it was reviewing the A380 orders after a slump in long-haul travel caused by slower growth in Europe. The slowdown has also forced Cathay Pacific Airways Ltd. (293), Hong Kong’s biggest carrier, to pare capacity and begin a cost-cutting drive.
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Old July 10th, 2013, 06:21 PM   #5189
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Really? Just how long does it take to assemble a jet anyway? Qatar's looks complete from the outside, so the inside can take upwards of 6 months??
It's not a matter of how long it takes to be completed, it's a matter of when Qatar wants them delivered, and they don't want them until next year, when their new airport is ready and operational.
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Old July 10th, 2013, 06:48 PM   #5190
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This a huge increase for a route. Go from A330 to A380. Wow! China Southern is doing it.

China Southern to Start A380 Service on Beijing – Kunming from 16JUL13

China Southern from 16JUL13 is introducing Airbus A380 aircraft on 1 of 2 daily Beijing – Kunming service, which will replace A330-300 aircraft on CZ3901/3902. Reservation for the A380 service is now open, until 26OCT13.

CZ3901 PEK0910 – 1235KMG 380 D
CZ6159 PEK1540 – 1855KMG 321 D

CZ3902 KMG1505 – 1810PEK 380 D
CZ6160 KMG2035 – 0005+1PEK 321 D

Last-minute aircraft change to A330 remains possible for CZ3901/3902
Wow is there such a demand for an A380 on THIS route? Sounds a bit random to put an A380 to Kunming...
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Old July 10th, 2013, 09:28 PM   #5191
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That was never confirmed by Airbus and the order is still being listed in the A380 order book.

http://www.airbus.com/company/market/orders-deliveries/
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Old July 10th, 2013, 10:54 PM   #5192
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The Kingfisher order is also still in the list even now it's pretty obvious that there's practically no airline left to take delivery of these orders.

There was also news last year that the Chinese government wouldn't even allow Hong Kong Airlines to add new type of aircraft to it's fleet. So all in all it's 1 of those orders that is simply unclear at this stage. Same goes for the Virgin Atlantic order, they have been deferring their order for so many times now that many people believe that they will never take delivery. The airline says that they are still deliberating the order, depending on how the airline will develop over the next few years.

Transaero is the only one that looks like it will certainly take delivery. It's such an oddball airline fleet-wise, the A380 would fit in perfectly. And they are growing fast, with many busy routes especially to the holiday destinations.


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Really? Just how long does it take to assemble a jet anyway? Qatar's looks complete from the outside, so the inside can take upwards of 6 months??
The A380 indeed takes a very long time from roll-out to delivery.


The 1st A380 for BA for example made it's 1st flight in November 2012 but was only delivered a good 8 months later. The outfitting takes longer then other aircraft because it's a big aircraft, but mostly because it has to be done in Hamburg. This means that Airbus 1st has to make it ready for it's 1st flight in Toulouse before it can be ferried to Hamburg. With other aircraft the inside is already fitted during later stages of assembly, saving lots of time. Airbus does want to do this as well with the A380, but the unions at all the locations prevent this. They want to save all the jobs in both France and in Germany, making it impossible for Airbus to streamline the production. This is one of the reasons why the A380 program isn't making any profit yet.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 02:44 AM   #5193
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I hope virgin atlantic won't give up the orders....
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Old July 11th, 2013, 11:16 AM   #5194
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The Kingfisher order is also still in the list even now it's pretty obvious that there's practically no airline left to take delivery of these orders.

There was also news last year that the Chinese government wouldn't even allow Hong Kong Airlines to add new type of aircraft to it's fleet. So all in all it's 1 of those orders that is simply unclear at this stage. Same goes for the Virgin Atlantic order, they have been deferring their order for so many times now that many people believe that they will never take delivery. The airline says that they are still deliberating the order, depending on how the airline will develop over the next few years.

Transaero is the only one that looks like it will certainly take delivery. It's such an oddball airline fleet-wise, the A380 would fit in perfectly. And they are growing fast, with many busy routes especially to the holiday destinations.



The A380 indeed takes a very long time from roll-out to delivery.


The 1st A380 for BA for example made it's 1st flight in November 2012 but was only delivered a good 8 months later. The outfitting takes longer then other aircraft because it's a big aircraft, but mostly because it has to be done in Hamburg. This means that Airbus 1st has to make it ready for it's 1st flight in Toulouse before it can be ferried to Hamburg. With other aircraft the inside is already fitted during later stages of assembly, saving lots of time. Airbus does want to do this as well with the A380, but the unions at all the locations prevent this. They want to save all the jobs in both France and in Germany, making it impossible for Airbus to streamline the production. This is one of the reasons why the A380 program isn't making any profit yet.
And they say Boeing screwed up their supply chain with the 787.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 11:35 AM   #5195
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I hope virgin atlantic won't give up the orders....
Virgin Atlantic would be an interesting choice to operate the A380, given its reputation in the long-haul market (not to mention it operating the B747-400 and A340-600, two of the larger aircraft in operation today), and it operates to much lesser number of destinations than BA. Hopefully, if this pushes through, the A380 can be assigned to LHR and relocate its B747s and A346s to Manchester, if not retire them.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 01:15 PM   #5196
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I have a feeling that if Virgin go through with its SJ order it will be with the blessing of Delta which in hand could also be a potential customer.
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Virgin Atlantic would be an interesting choice to operate the A380, given its reputation in the long-haul market (not to mention it operating the B747-400 and A340-600, two of the larger aircraft in operation today), and it operates to much lesser number of destinations than BA. Hopefully, if this pushes through, the A380 can be assigned to LHR and relocate its B747s and A346s to Manchester, if not retire them.
I believe the B787 will take care of the A346/B744 retirement.

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Virgin Atlantic will need the A380 to be able to compete at LHR or they will loose to BA and all the other airlines that VA competes with and also flies the A380. Delta wont order the A380. That would be cool but they will probably order more 777s.
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THAI to Start Airbus A380 Service to Osaka from late-October 2013

Based on latest schedule update on 12JUL13, THAI is to introduce Airbus A380 operation on Bangkok – Osaka Kansai route, starting 27OCT13. A380 aircraft to operate on TG622/623 service, replacing Boeing 747-400.

TG672 BKK1100 – 1810KIX 330 D
TG694 BKK1420 – 2130KIX 77W 135
TG622 BKK2315 – 0625+1KIX 380 D

TG673 KIX0030 – 0500BKK 330 D
TG695 KIX0810 – 1240BKK 77W 357
TG623 KIX1100 – 1545BKK 380 D

TG623 operated by A380 from 28OCT13.

TG694/695 remains unavailable for reservation. Further changes to planned winter operation remains highly possible.
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