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Old April 30th, 2005, 09:24 PM   #521
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I've read in February in the Dutch newspapers that Malaysian Airlines will start A380 operations to Amsterdam Schiphol Airport in the end of 2007/the beginning of 2008, while a few months earlier, the Schiphol board stated not to expect any A380 flight to Amsterdam before 2010...

And the fact that our national airline KLM is merged with Air France into Air France/KLM can be another reason for Schiphol Airport to adapt its infrastructure for the A380.

The article said that the newest (fifth) runway, the so called 3800 metres long 'Polderbaan', completed in 2003, is capable of handling A380's. The other four runways and all platforms need adaptions though.
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Old April 30th, 2005, 09:30 PM   #522
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well Qantas is getting 12 of them, so it will probably put them on:
Melbourne-London
Melbourne-Los Angeles
Melbourne-Tokyo/Hong Kong
Sydney-London
Sydney-Los Angeles
Sydney-New York
Sydney-Chicago
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Old April 30th, 2005, 09:48 PM   #523
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here you go !!

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Old April 30th, 2005, 11:02 PM   #524
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Chirac Looks to Capitalize on Airbus A380
By LAURENCE FROST, Associated Press Writer Thu Apr 28, 4:30 PM ET

BLAGNAC, France - For Jacques Chirac, pushing hard for a "yes" vote in France's referendum on Europe's first constitution, the maiden flight of the Airbus A380 was a campaign opportunity too good to miss — although he almost did.

On Thursday morning, as the city of Toulouse nursed a champagne hangover, the French president flew in for an impromptu visit to Airbus headquarters and hailed 4,000 hastily assembled workers as a symbol of "the Europe that we want."

The euphoria surrounding the superjumbo's first flight Wednesday — watched by 30,000 onlookers and millions more television viewers — handed the government a weapon in its struggle to galvanize support for Europe's newest treaty.

Airbus is itself an emblem of European industrial cooperation — 80 percent-owned by Franco-German European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co., with Britain's BAE Sytems PLC controlling the rest. The A380, the largest ever airliner, is built by thousands of workers at sites in France, Germany, Britain and Spain.

"This is a symbol of what Europeans can do together when they combine their strengths, their skills, their willpower and their creativity," Chirac told A380 workers, many wearing their blue assembly-line overalls. "You embody the Europe that we want."

The Airbus rank-and-file were summoned two hours ahead of the presidential visit. Airbus Vice President Barbara Kracht said the company itself was only told late Wednesday — almost two hours after the A380 touched down.

The A380 was wheeled back out onto the tarmac Thursday as a backdrop for Chirac's speech, and caterers prepared yet another party in case he stayed for lunch. "I've never had to do this in my life," said Airbus hospitality manager Christian Morere, who was given just hours to prepare the food.

The constitution would provide the 25-nation European Union with a foreign minister and a president to give it greater clout on the international stage. But surveys have shown increasing opposition to the charter among the public.

Political leaders don't usually attend test flights, aviation watchers say, because of the risk of something going wrong.

But there was nothing ordinary about the A380's maiden voyage past the snowcapped Pyrenees — the most closely watched event in aviation history since Concorde first flew in 1969, and a global advert for French and European industrial know-how. Health Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy was in the crowd, but some felt the absence of a more senior government figure was an oversight.

"Chirac should have been here yesterday," said taxi driver Andre Peres. "But maybe he had other commitments."
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Old May 1st, 2005, 01:29 AM   #525
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^It most definitely isn't.
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Old May 1st, 2005, 05:28 AM   #526
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Heathrow and Manchester are the only two UK airports that I know of with development programmes to fully accomadate the aircraft.

A recent incorrect press release from the newly opened "Robin Hood" airport in Doncaster said that they were the only ones outside London in the UK capable on runway size (except Manchester has two runways longer than their single runway), but this huge thing is more than that, it's terminal changes, taxi run changes, etc. and only Heathrow and Manchester have these programmes underway.

So, in the UK ATM:

London Heathrow
Manchester

SIA have a direct daily flight out of Manchester for example, Emirates also.
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Old May 1st, 2005, 05:49 AM   #527
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well Qantas is getting 12 of them, so it will probably put them on:
Melbourne-London
Melbourne-Los Angeles
Melbourne-Tokyo/Hong Kong
Sydney-London
Sydney-Los Angeles
Sydney-New York
Sydney-Chicago
As soon as LAX is A380 ready, I think that Qantas will have at least one or maybe two A380 flights a day between Sydney and LAX. Melbourne will also probably have a daily 380 to LAX too.

The A380 won't be able to make the flight from Australia to London nonstop, as the Boeing 747 can't either right now. Flights from Melbourne and Sydney to London (Heathrow) will have to stop along the way.
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Old May 1st, 2005, 05:50 AM   #528
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Why the bloody hell are people trying to compare the sizes of a non-mass-produced specialist cargo aircraft with two mass produced multi purpose aircraft?

Nuts!

The bloody thing was designed to transport a Russian Space Shuttle!

And how many exist? .......
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Old May 1st, 2005, 05:53 AM   #529
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Heathrow and Manchester are the only two UK airports that I know of with development programmes to fully accomadate the aircraft.

A recent incorrect press release from the newly opened "Robin Hood" airport in Doncaster said that they were the only ones outside London in the UK capable on runway size (except Manchester has two runways longer than their single runway), but this huge thing is more than that, it's terminal changes, taxi run changes, etc. and only Heathrow and Manchester have these programmes underway.

So, in the UK ATM:

London Heathrow
Manchester

SIA have a direct daily flight out of Manchester for example, Emirates also.
Emirates, Malaysia Airlines, Qantas, Singapore, Thai and of course Virgin Atlantic will most likely fly the A380 into London (Heathrow). I don't think Singapore will fly the A380 to Manchester, but Emirates may.
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Old May 1st, 2005, 05:54 AM   #530
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And god knows how much shite the AN225 puts out! Aircraft are hardly green as it is.
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Old May 1st, 2005, 05:55 AM   #531
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I'm pretty sure Amsterdam Schiphol will want to make changes to their airport, for two reasons. One is to keep their top10 airport ranking in the world, and two is so they can facilitate Air France A380's, should they need to. (Schiphol is the hub of KLM, who merged with Air France. I don't know if this will mean that Air France's A380's will use Schiphol as well though)
I'm pretty sure that Air France will keep their A380s flying from Paris(CDG). The most likely airline to fly the A380 into Amsterdam is Emirates from Dubai.
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Old May 1st, 2005, 05:59 AM   #532
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I'm just saying that Heathrow and Manchester are the only two UK airports with progammes underway to support the A380.
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Old May 1st, 2005, 06:00 AM   #533
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Obviously, Manchester will not get them right away, but 6 to 10 years down the line.
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Old May 1st, 2005, 06:02 AM   #534
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Aer Linguses planes are somewhat green.
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Old May 1st, 2005, 06:04 AM   #535
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Sorry, but your question was which airports would be capable of servicing the A380, and Manchester will be able, whether they come or not.
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Old May 1st, 2005, 06:08 AM   #536
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Toronto's Pearson is A380 ready.
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Old May 1st, 2005, 07:15 AM   #537
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That isn't going to happen anytime soon. O'Hare is such a mess right now, I don't think it'll be A380 ready until, at least, 2012.
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What I would like to hear from all of you, is where you think these airlines will fly their A380s to. Please list the name of the airline and it's likely A380 destinations.

Example: Qantas--Sydney to Los Angeles (LAX)
Sorry if I wasn't clear enough. What I want to do is try to determine where the airlines I listed, which have orders for the Airbus A380, will want to fly them to. Such as the extremely popular route I listed in the example.

Whether an airport is A380 capable or not is for another thread.
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That isn't going to happen anytime soon. O'Hare is such a mess right now, I don't think it'll be A380 ready until, at least, 2012.
If O'Hare was A380 ready, the only airline and route I can possibly see is Lufthansa from Frankfurt to Chicago.
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Old May 1st, 2005, 07:26 AM   #540
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^That too, though I've seen a few KLM 747's now and again, about as often as I see Lufthansa. Somewhat less frequently are the Air France, British Airways, Alitalia and Qantas 744's.
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