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Old November 7th, 2013, 09:47 PM   #5621
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Old November 8th, 2013, 04:53 AM   #5622
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Yeah i completely agree. Airbus did well for what they had to work with. The SAD part is, IF airbus waited 5 years give or take, they couldve had one of the best planes ever created. I think Boeing was ahead of the curve though. The 787 changed the way all Boeing planes are made today. The technology used in the wings, carbon fiber, and a few other "firsts" for that plane. They implement that same technology with all there planes. the Boeing 777X is going to compete with the A380 big time.
The problem isn't technology, it's capacity. It is to Airbus' credit that the A380's CASM will be unsurpassed, even by the B777X. It's THAT efficient, ONLY if you can fill it. And so far, most airlines don't think they can fill the plane all year round. The Boeing 777X benefits by essentially being a derivative, and a smaller step up in capacity, allowing airlines to moderate their seat counts only slightly compared to the capacity jump of the A380.
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Old November 8th, 2013, 04:54 AM   #5623
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Old November 8th, 2013, 06:46 AM   #5624
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The problem isn't technology, it's capacity. It is to Airbus' credit that the A380's CASM will be unsurpassed, even by the B777X. It's THAT efficient, ONLY if you can fill it. And so far, most airlines don't think they can fill the plane all year round. The Boeing 777X benefits by essentially being a derivative, and a smaller step up in capacity, allowing airlines to moderate their seat counts only slightly compared to the capacity jump of the A380.
"Airlines are having trouble selling all the seats for A380 flights and 747 flights.
I think the IDEA or on paper the A380 or 747-8i is much greater then actually owning one.

Is having 500 some odd passengers per flight a great idea: YES

but is it realistic to fill all those seats per flight: No it is not"

The comment above is what I originally said about. I agree. If you 100% fill an A380 its a cash cow but I wonder how open it is REALLY 100% full per flight.

Also my point technology wise: The plane was probly started / designed 8 - 10 years ago. The technology they used to build the plane isnt as current as the 787 or A350.
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Old November 8th, 2013, 08:01 AM   #5625
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"Airlines are having trouble selling all the seats for A380 flights and 747 flights.
I think the IDEA or on paper the A380 or 747-8i is much greater then actually owning one.

Is having 500 some odd passengers per flight a great idea: YES

but is it realistic to fill all those seats per flight: No it is not"

The comment above is what I originally said about. I agree. If you 100% fill an A380 its a cash cow but I wonder how open it is REALLY 100% full per flight.

Also my point technology wise: The plane was probly started / designed 8 - 10 years ago. The technology they used to build the plane isnt as current as the 787 or A350.
a380-900 series is twice times capacity with 747-8I if we compare about the economic class capacity in indonesian seats version.
a380 if we count the quantity approximetly for 1000 until 1500 passanger.
but if 747-8I if we count approximetly only for 750 passanger.
so this is the reason why indonesian ministry of religion would resereve the a380 or 747 new generation.
because they want save the money and decrease the expense
FYI:the Bailout of religion ministry of indonesia approximetly 5,5 Billion Dollar.
but the queue of a380 is so long so its been so long wait.
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Old November 8th, 2013, 12:46 PM   #5626
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I have no idea how people sit backwards in those business class seats :/
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Old November 8th, 2013, 02:00 PM   #5627
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Absolutely revolting. I am surprised this outdated interior is even offered on the A380. When are this bins from? 1970s? And the awful white plastic seats with tiny screens.
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Old November 8th, 2013, 02:34 PM   #5628
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Absolutely revolting. I am surprised this outdated interior is even offered on the A380. When are this bins from? 1970s? And the awful white plastic seats with tiny screens.
For your sake I hope your being sarcastic!
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Old November 8th, 2013, 03:38 PM   #5629
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For your sake I hope your being sarcastic!
Huh? Why'd I be sarcastic?

Pivot bins have been in service for more than a decade I think. Even 737s have them now.

Here' they're on an A380



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1) Take less space
2) Are easier to work with
3) Look much better and modern
4) More head space for this who're trying to sit

I don't quite understand why anyone would choose these old-style bins. As for the seats, they look pretty pathetic to be honest.
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Old November 8th, 2013, 03:41 PM   #5630
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Also in that pic you can see screens that are much bigger.
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Old November 8th, 2013, 08:32 PM   #5631
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Huh? Why'd I be sarcastic? Pivot bins have been in service for more than a decade I think. Even 737s have them now. Here' they're on an A380 They: 1) Take less space 2) Are easier to work with 3) Look much better and modern 4) More head space for this who're trying to sit I don't quite understand why anyone would choose these old-style bins. As for the seats, they look pretty pathetic to be honest.
Have you ever been onboard an A380???
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Old November 8th, 2013, 11:31 PM   #5632
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He's right about the screens size though, they're too small.
Otherwise, this cabin doesn't disturb me, it's just a bit boring but the seats look comfy.
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Old November 8th, 2013, 11:51 PM   #5633
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I have no idea how people sit backwards in those business class seats :/
I sat backwards on a 747 United business (upper deck) Chicago to London and hated it. Very nauseating! They wanted me to switch seats on the return flight and I said SURE as long as I am facing forward. The next trip was Air France A380 JFK to CDG. The plane was great, but AF needs a slap in the face with a white glove for the business class on that plane. AND the service was ohh la la BAD! I had a FA tell me "they can't be running back and forth to bring my food". I ordered express dinner, and didn't realize it was only the appetizer and desert. No main course like other airlines express. Then they lost my Luggage between CDG and Munich. Oy

I can't post pictures but here:

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Then compare that to Delta's Business!

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Old November 9th, 2013, 01:22 AM   #5634
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this cabin is completely boring!
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Old November 9th, 2013, 12:28 PM   #5635
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Old November 9th, 2013, 08:39 PM   #5636
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Have you ever been onboard an A380???
Yes. But I don't see how that's relevant in any way.
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Yes. But I don't see how that's relevant in any way.
Reason I asked would be the fact the photos you quoted are taken from the main deck whilst upper deck has the sleeker looking overhead bins your referring to in your original discussion.
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Old November 11th, 2013, 05:23 PM   #5638
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Old November 11th, 2013, 05:57 PM   #5639
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Old November 11th, 2013, 09:39 PM   #5640
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