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Old July 1st, 2005, 04:54 AM   #681
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I am not sure if you are aware but the Delay is caused by the fact that airbus got more orders than expected ...

& for the A380 lovers here are some goodies
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Old July 11th, 2005, 08:45 PM   #682
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KINGFISHER BECOMES FIRST INDIAN CUSTOMER FOR A380

Kingfisher Airlines has become the first Indian carrier to sign a firm contract with Airbus for the A380 as well as for the A350 and the A330. The order is for five A350-800s plus five A380s for intercontinental services, and five A330-200s for regional routes.

Deliveries of Kingfisher’s A380s are due to begin in 2010. Engine selections have yet to be announced.

Kingfisher plans to use its A380 on long non-stop flights – such as to the USA.

“India is one of the world’s fastest growing markets, especially among the younger emerging generation, and these new Airbus aircraft, with their unmatched passenger appeal, economy and commonality, will give us the lead in competing for their business, “ says Dr Vijay Mallya, Chairman of the UB Group, one of India’s largest companies and the parent company of Kingfisher Airlines. “We’ll begin with the Airbus A330, which is a great aircraft and already in widespread service, and then we’ll create a sensation when we become the first Indian carrier with the 21st Century flagship A380, before adding the world’s newest airliner, the A350. Imagine flying the good times, not just in India, but worldwide !”

Kingfisher Airlines is already an important Airbus customer – it has ordered ten A320s and three A319s, and has options on a further 20 single-aisle aircraft. It has established itself as an air-travel phenomenon in the Indian market, introducing new standards in passenger appeal – such as personal video-screens in every seat. In quickly establishing a formidable record for quality of service and reliability in the Indian skies, Kingfisher is rapidly becoming a favourite of discerning passengers.

“Our Airbus A330, A350 and A380 are clearly the right aircraft for the strongly growing Indian marketplace, as Kingfisher’s clarity of vision in selecting them demonstrates,” says Airbus President and CEO Noël Forgeard. “And with Kingfisher’s flair for delivering a quality product to consumers, the new Airbus aircraft are set to give India its rightful share of the important travel and tourism business.”
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Old July 11th, 2005, 08:49 PM   #683
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Unexpected but exciting!

This reminds me of the 747 when it was new, many airlines big and small rushed to buy it.
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Old July 11th, 2005, 10:04 PM   #684
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wait, as the B747Adv is in production, they gonna have all the orders!
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Old July 11th, 2005, 10:52 PM   #685
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wait, as the B747Adv is in production, they gonna have all the orders!
Dream on Yankee, the 747 "Advanced" is so inferior to the A380, it'll sell about as fast as that goofy photoshopped 6-engine A350 you love so much.

Silly Boeing...
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Old July 12th, 2005, 02:03 PM   #686
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wait, as the B747Adv is in production, they gonna have all the orders!

Nice J/K !

The B744ADV as of now (from what boeing said so far )
it's a streeched version of the B744 with the Engines of the B787 . Nothing else .
no composites etc... As they will not want to invest much money to that project
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Old July 12th, 2005, 05:45 PM   #687
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Nice J/K !

The B744ADV as of now (from what boeing said so far )
it's a streeched version of the B744 with the Engines of the B787 . Nothing else .
no composites etc... As they will not want to invest much money to that project
Actually I thought they were going to put some composites in, but regardless... the 747 is pushing 36 years now, even if they did improve it, it still can't compare to an all-new aircraft like the A380.

And unlike Airbus with the A350, Boeing can't "upgrade" the 747Adv to virtually an all-new aircraft because it would cost way too much for a plane of that size.

I love Boeing's proud heratige, but I'm sorry... this is such a half-assed scheme to take away market share, it's pathetic. So sad to think this company's gone from global pioneer in air travel to backseat driver.

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Old July 13th, 2005, 09:01 PM   #688
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Nice J/K !

The B744ADV as of now (from what boeing said so far )
it's a streeched version of the B744 with the Engines of the B787 . Nothing else .
no composites etc... As they will not want to invest much money to that project
but the 744ADV has 8 to 10 percent lower costs per seat compared with the A380...
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Old July 13th, 2005, 09:03 PM   #689
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and the plane is smaller and that's why it has a greater market!
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Old July 13th, 2005, 10:59 PM   #690
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Air France sees 6 mth delay in Airbus A380 deliveries - Spinetta
12 July 2005

PARIS (AFX) - Air France will take its first delivery of Airbus A380 superjumbos with a six month delay from the original due date of April 2007, Air France-KLM CEO Jean-Cyrill Spinetta said.

Air France has made a firm order for 10 A380s, with an option for four others

Asked at today's AGM about the A380 deliveries, Spinetta said: 'In principle it was to be April 1, 2007. That will be delayed by six months compared to the expected timetable.'

He added that six months was the 'delay communicated to all the aircraft operators.'

Airbus is 80-pct owned by European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co, and 20-pct by BAE Systems PLC.
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Old July 14th, 2005, 10:57 AM   #691
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but the 744ADV has 8 to 10 percent lower costs per seat compared with the A380...

Unless you are j/k your statement is simply rediculus . It's not even designed .If they don't spend enough for it will never become competitive.

Don't forget the Smaller A380-700 (with around 450 Seats , while the B744 have
425 )
So they are competing , They got to do a good job if they want the A380-700 market .-
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Old July 14th, 2005, 11:21 PM   #692
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Unless you are j/k your statement is simply rediculus . It's not even designed
the 744Adv is designed and can soon be creat.

[qoute]
Don't forget the Smaller A380-700 (with around 450 Seats , while the B744 have
425 )[/QUOTE]

the a387 is not even designed!

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Old July 20th, 2005, 08:17 PM   #693
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13 July 2005
A380 PERFORMS VMU TESTS

An A380 equipped with a special tail bumper has performed a series of low speed take-off tests to determine the optimal slat and flap settings for commercial service.

The A380 has completed preliminary low-speed take-off tests, known as VMU (Vitesse Minimum Unstick) tests, at Istres Air Base in Southern France.

VMU testing demonstrates the minimum speeds at which an aircraft can take off with its rear fuselage touching the runway. Several sets of VMU tests are carried out because the aircraft is tested with the different slat and flat configurations that will be used in-service.

Although VMU tests form part of the certification process, it is too early in the A380’s flight test campaign to begin formal VMU testing at this point. Today’s four tests have a different purpose – they are being used to help determine the optimal deflection of one of three slat and flap settings that the A380 will operate in commercial service.

Configuration three, as this setting is known, has the flaps and slats set at their highest deflection, which enables an aircraft to take off with the shortest possible length of runway. The other two configurations, one and two, are optimised for minimal noise and to balance noise/runway length constraints respectively.

VMU tests are often quite dramatic generating a trail of sparks as the lower fuselage drags along the runway during take-off. Not surprisingly the lower fuselage can be damaged during these tests, and therefore to prevent damage, this area of the aircraft is protected by a tail bumper, in a similar way to the protection of the front and rear of vehicles by bumpers.

Due to its size, the A380 was unable to adopt a traditional tail bumper which involves steel beams reinforcing the rear fuselage. Instead, after many months of development, teams from 14 suppliers and six Airbus sites created a tail bumper based on a system similar to an hydraulic shock absorber. It is fitted to the A380 just before these tests begin but as it is used only for VMU testing, the tail bumper will not be installed on operational aircraft.


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Old July 20th, 2005, 09:13 PM   #694
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Old July 21st, 2005, 12:15 PM   #695
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the 744Adv is designed and can soon be creat.
you are hard to understand, don't you ?
The B747 will need a diet ( aka loose weight ) to be competitive Not only engines and some details in the wings.

Quoting the site you provided :
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What's advanced about it? Well, the breakthrough technology of the 787 engines for one thing. Seating capacity of 450 passengers (the only jetliner in the 400-500 seat market) is another. Then there is a range of 8,000 nautical miles (14,816 km). Cruising speed of 0.86 Mach. A modified wing. An upgraded flight deck.
It's not mentioned that it will loose weight cause it will remain in part the same old B744 -_- .-

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Old August 5th, 2005, 12:36 PM   #696
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4 August 2005
A380 FLUTTER CAMPAIGN

In the context of its certification campaign, the A380 has begun the first of its flight vibration tests, also known as the flutter campaign, which will be run over a series of 10 to 15 flights.

The A380 successfully undertook the first of its flight vibration tests, also known as the flutter campaign, on 2nd August in Toulouse, France.

The flight vibration tests examine the behaviour of the aircraft’s structure and aerodynamics when subjected to structural vibrations while flying at very high speeds. These tests are important because an aircraft can encounter natural vibration during operations (e.g. caused by wind, turbulence or flight control movement) which, if not adequately neutralised, will result in a violent quivering of its lift surfaces (such as the wings), known as flutter. Ultimately this can cause serious damage to or the destruction of the aircraft.

For certification purposes the A380 must demonstrate that it can absorb – or damp – the effects of a pre-defined level of vibrations at its maximum speeds and while maintaining its flight path. This level of vibrations was estimated during the flutter calibration test carried out in mid-June.

To create the vibrations, the A380’s control surfaces such as its wing ailerons, elevators or rudders, are intentionally and violently deflected before being returned to a neutral position. Meanwhile flight vibration specialists, based in the Airbus flight operations base on the ground, analyse in real time the dynamics (absorption and intensity) of the aircraft vibrations. If the behaviour of the aircraft is satisfactory they clear the crew to move on to repeat the test at a higher speed.

The flutter campaign is carried out over a series of 10 to 15 flights. The speed of the aircraft is progressively increased during the tests, up to the A380’s maximum conventional speed of 375 knots and maximum Mach number* of 0.96. In order to obtain a comprehensive analysis of the aircraft’s reaction to vibrations, the campaign also involves tests at different aircraft weights and with various fuel-distribution configurations.

* A Mach number is the ratio of the speed of the aircraft to the speed of sound.


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A380 STAR OF THE SHOW IN SINGAPORE

Singapore’s Changi Airport has welcomed its first A380 – a four by four metre scale model, unveiled at an event to mark the recent completion of the airport’s first A380-ready gate.

The gate is one of eleven currently planned for Changi’s terminals 1 and 2, with another eight to be built at the airport’s Terminal 3 that opens in 2008. The airport is spending some Singapore$68 million (€33 million) on upgrading its infrastructure, with expanded passenger holding rooms, adapted runway taxiing areas and new A380-ready airbridges among work under way.

Singapore’s Minister of State for Finance and Transport Mrs Lim Hwee Hua was guest of honour at the August 16 event, which was organised jointly by the Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore and A380 launch customer Singapore Airlines.

The A380 model – decked out in Singapore Airlines livery – was unveiled by Mrs Lim in the new gate’s passenger holding area and will go on permanent display in Terminal 2’s main shopping area. Airbus is supporting both Changi Airport and Singapore Airlines’ A380 communication campaigns in the run-up to the commercial entry into service of the aircraft.

In a speech to around 150 guests, which included international and local-based journalists, Mrs Lim said Changi could strengthen its position as a key hub airport by being well-prepared for the A380.

Chief Executive Officer of Singapore Airlines Chew Choon Seng also attended the event and in his speech he emphasised the importance of the aircraft to the strategic growth plans of both the airline and airport.

Singapore Airlines is to be the world’s first commercial operator of the A380 and has 10 of the aircraft on order, with options a further 15. The carrier plans to initiate commercial service on the so-called ‘kangaroo’ route between Singapore, Sydney and London.

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Airbus to ramp up sourcing in China to sell more jets
Wed Aug 17, 3:51 AM ET

SHANGHAI (AFP) - Airbus says it wants to ramp up the construction of plane parts in China to help spur sales in the country it predicts will need 200 superjumbo jets like the A380 over the next 20 years.

The European aerospace consortium also reiterated its projection that it will purchase 60 million dollars worth of components in China in 2007, rising to 120 million dollars three years later.

"Because we have only 15 million dollars in sourcing in China we would like to increase this number," Airbus spokesman Gu Wei told AFP, adding that proposals being considered included establishing more joint ventures in China.

By increasing the sourcing of parts, especially for the A380 -- the new double-decker plane capable of carrying up to 555 passengers -- the European group hopes to better integrate the mainland market into its supply chain.

Already since the mid-1980s Chinese manufacturers have delivered to Airbus parts for doors, noses and wings valued at more than 500 million dollars, according to Xinhua news agency.

Five Chinese companies produce parts for Airbus planes, including emergency doors for A320s made by the Shenyang Aircraft Industrial (Group) Company and the main parts for the A320's nose by the Chengdu Aircraft Industrial (Group).

The consortium will also transfer technologies for producing entire A320 jet wings to China that will enable all the components to be produced in the country by 2007.

While Airbus planes are unlikely to be assembled in their entirety in China anytime soon, the building of major components would likely help Airbus capture a larger slice of the world's third largest aviation market.

US rival Boeing is currently the dominant supplier in China, holding a more than 60 percent market share.

Airbus, 80-percent owned by aerospace conglomerate EADS and the rest by British defence contractor BAE Systems, projected China will need 200 superjumbos like the A380 over the next two decades, and Gu said it made economic sense for the company to source more on the mainland.

"China's aviation market has huge potential not only for mid-range planes but also in the capacity for traffic growth and so the Chinese market needs larger aircraft," said Gu.

"With new product sourcing we would want China to buy more A380s and we hope that by 2008 we will add one more Chinese airline."

Earlier this year Airbus inked a deal worth some 1.4 billion dollars to sell five of the planes to China Southern Airlines, although Boeing hit right back with orders for its new 787 Dreamliner, a medium-sized long-haul jet.

Gu said discussions with Chinese airlines on buying more A380s were ongoing.

The A380 is part of Airbus's plan to ramp up sales based on a strategy that hauling more passengers on a single flight will bring airlines greater efficiency.

It has sold more than 200 planes in China since 1985 and so far this year has received orders for 59 aircraft from five Chinese airlines, accounting for 20 percent of its total orders.
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Airbus A380 pics

Specs:

Decks: 3, including cargo
weight, 1.2+ million Lbs, (600+ tons)
Speed: 652 Mph (1000 kph)
seats: 550
includes: shops, showers, hotel rooms, bars, childrens playroom, and gym on board.


Take a look at the man under the plane, he looks like an ant.



First class



Looks like a really really really really really big porpose, I like the looks of a 747 better.







A bar on a plane, the queen mary of the skies



Go shopping at the front of the cabin, 10X the normal price!!



11 foot wide

turbine blade









Comparison to 747, an old beauty












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great machine....damn i want to see 'em flying with the airlines' liveries
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