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Old June 4th, 2015, 07:29 AM   #7441
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Rumor has it that United Airlines is edging closer to purchasing the Airbus A380.
A380 does not work for United: CFO

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Old June 4th, 2015, 08:06 AM   #7442
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I think if the price is right, United could jump at a chance to grab the two A380's that were originally built for Skymark Airlines in Japan and a number of ex-Malaysian Airlines planes.

United--if they get the planes--may assign them to SFO, where they will likely fly the San Francisco-Beijing and San Francisco-Hong Kong-Singapore route.
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Old June 5th, 2015, 09:14 PM   #7443
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I just found out now how the 2-class Emirates A380 seating layout will be like...

Upper deck: 192 seats
J: 1-2-1 config, 64 seats (Rows 6-16, 19-23)
Y: 2-4-2 config, 128 seats (Rows 24-39)

Lower deck: 470 seats
Y: 3-4-3 config, 470 seats (Rows 41-88)

Total number of seats: 662 seats

Dang, that's so many seats that it can help reduce congestion on the airline's most popular routes. The main concern I have for this layout: will all those seats get filled all the time, and how will this seating layout impact the aircraft's operational performance (especially range-wise)?

Source: Airline Route Twitter
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Old June 5th, 2015, 09:20 PM   #7444
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The two routes so far will be Bombay, and Copenhagen with the two class layout.

I don't think they will have problems filling those seats, nor will they have any problems with range.

Next two destinations should be Manila, and New Delhi.
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To me, Dubai-Copenhagen on a 2-class A380 is a really interesting case. I thought Milan or Paris would be viable candidates for that aircraft type because there are so many flyers doing either route, but Copenhagen? I may need some explanation... For its flights to India and Manila (my home airport), though, that really makes sense.
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Old June 5th, 2015, 09:38 PM   #7446
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To me, Dubai-Copenhagen on a 2-class A380 is a really interesting case. I thought Milan or Paris would be viable candidates for that aircraft type because there are so many flyers doing either route, but Copenhagen? I may need some explanation... For its flights to India and Manila (my home airport), though, that really makes sense.
Stockholm was really pushing for the A380, but EK decided to go with Copenhagen because it was performing better.
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I see. I would really love to see the seating differences to make sure I understand how the interiors of that particular aircraft type will work out. I thought, though, that EK will introduce Y+ on the A380...
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Old June 12th, 2015, 01:15 AM   #7448
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Airbus Details A380 11-abreast Option

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The A380 main deck economy seat row recently unveiled by Airbus (Hall Concorde 17) is one of four new cabin interior options it is offering, all aimed at reducing unit costs or enhancing revenue. Chris Emerson, Airbus senior v-p marketing, said the 11-abreast ‘Max Abreast’ row is for A380 customers wanting to reduce economy-seating unit costs to levels like those of competing low-cost carriers while offering better comfort. He said the 11-abreast main deck economy row would use a “unique advantage” of the A380–its main-deck sidewalls curve outwards from floor level at and above every seat–to position window seats outward to a half-inch distance from the walls.

This positioning would retain existing personal space levels at all heights and “in some cases” would even offer increased head and shoulder space, Emerson said. “We just got rid of wasted space,” he added. Together with reducing average armrest width from 2 to 1.5 inches, the outward positioning would create a 3-5-3 configuration in which all economy seats remain 18 inches wide, wider than those of any LCC operating non-Airbus aircraft, according to Emerson. He said the center seats in the between-aisle, five-abreast rows would only be filled if the A380 was at least 90-percent booked, and would often be booked by families traveling together.

Airbus sees its new A380 configurations as best suited to short-haul markets, regional Asian sectors and longer-haul leisure markets in which LCCs or charter carriers also compete. “We have customers who are asking for this, in certain marketplaces with predominantly low-yield traffic,” said Emerson. “We have demonstrated that with the A380 we can do this and still have an 18-inch level of comfort.”
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Old June 12th, 2015, 01:52 AM   #7449
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So much for promises of comfort onboard A380's! Really not happy with this latest layout proposed by Airbus.
Cramp passengers in like sardines glad I usually travel in pointy end on my trips.
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Old June 12th, 2015, 02:47 AM   #7450
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So much for promises of comfort onboard A380's! Really not happy with this latest layout proposed by Airbus.
Cramp passengers in like sardines glad I usually travel in pointy end on my trips.

I highly doubt you ever see this in a plane ......

the a380 doesnt need more seats .... it needs to lose some weight.
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Old June 12th, 2015, 04:50 AM   #7451
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You can't fit the bags of that many passengers on an A380 if you want to carry a decent load of fuel, well you can but the plane will be too heavy to take off...

The only way you would see this is if the airline wants to fit the same number of economy pax in a smaller area so that more premium seats can be fitted... this necessitates that the route has extremely high demand for premium seating which is not often the case.
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Old June 12th, 2015, 12:20 PM   #7452
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Emirates is not going to do the 11-abreast, that pretty much leaves no other customer that could go for this option.
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Old June 12th, 2015, 02:25 PM   #7453
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Airbus to decide on A380 revamp this year - WirtschaftsWoche
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FRANKFURT, June 12 (Reuters) - Planemaker Airbus will decide around the end of 2015 on how to revamp its A380 super jumbo and is on track for its 2015 targets, Chief Executive Thomas Enders was quoted saying by German business weekly WirtschaftsWoche.

"The board of directors will certainly need until the end of the year to form a comprehensive overview of the situation and to make decisions," he said in remarks published on Friday.

"This is one of our most difficult product decisions in years. What is clear is that there will not be an A380 with new engines only for certain customers."

Airbus has struggled to find buyers for the A380 over the last couple of years. Emirates, the biggest customer, has called for Airbus to revamp the jet with new engines.

Enders said Airbus had managed to cut fuel usage by several percentage points even without new engines, which he said were only one of many options being considered.

"One possibility I am thinking about concretely is innovations in the cabin," he said.
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Old June 12th, 2015, 03:31 PM   #7454
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So much for promises of comfort onboard A380's! Really not happy with this latest layout proposed by Airbus.
Cramp passengers in like sardines glad I usually travel in pointy end on my trips.
Yuk Brisbane Dubai in that????????
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Old June 12th, 2015, 09:58 PM   #7455
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Oh dear... that is an absolute disgrace to make the world's largest passenger aircraft more like a cattle car than a flying machine. I hope EK, EY, and QR would not resort themselves to do a C- or D-check and refurbish the lower deck with that 3-5-3 Y seating configuration.
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Old June 13th, 2015, 03:27 AM   #7456
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My guess is that Airbus wants to work with Rolls-Royce and the GE/Pratt & Whitney Engine Alliance on new engines that could cut the fuel consumption of the A380 by 10% or more.

One possible idea: scale up the geared turbofan technology on the P&W PurePower PW1100G for a really efficient large turbofan with over 10% fuel savings compared to the original GP7270 engine. That type of fuel savings could be VERY attractive to airlines flying transpacific routes, for example Singapore Airlines, Cathay Pacific Airways, and the airlines of China.
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Emirates Airlines President Sir Tim Clark explains what he's doing right with the A380 (and why Emirates is doing so well with them), and what his competitors are doing wrong:

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Commenting early this year on a lack of orders for the giant jet, which might halt production, Sir Tim told Travel “airlines are too conservative and have not put the right interiors into their A380s”.

“Some of the interiors are a disgrace and are 1970s thinking. If airlines don’t believe they can fill an A380, then their business model is wrong.”

On the five-times daily route from Dubai to London, Sir Tim said the A380s were running at 95 per cent capacity.

“We put all our premium seats on the upper deck and economy on the main deck but others have mixed them, which is very inefficient,” he said. “Our competitors laughed at us when we put showers and a lounge in the A380. But passengers love the showers and the lounge.”

Airlines that are first to market are usually the ones that are really successful. Decades ago, Emirates was one of the first two airlines to put seat- back videos in economy. Passengers — particularly those with children — flocked to the airline.

And it has followed up that initiative with many more, resulting in the airline winning more awards that any other carrier.
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The word geographically located comes to mind. The advantages the likes of EK, EY & QR have over their competitors would be their location & that's why the A380 has been successful for EK.
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Anyone thinks he has a point?
"On the five-times daily route from Dubai to London, Sir Tim said the A380s were running at 95 per cent capacity"

I don't think soo ...
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