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Old June 15th, 2015, 03:31 PM   #7461
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Old June 15th, 2015, 03:36 PM   #7462
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Airbus in early talks over moderate A380 stretch

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Old June 15th, 2015, 06:09 PM   #7463
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Old June 18th, 2015, 12:04 AM   #7464
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Here's something I've seen from last week at SFO...

Emirates A380-800, "England Rugby World Cup 2015" (reg. A6-EOC)


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Old June 18th, 2015, 11:19 AM   #7465
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Can you have 9 abreast configuration in the A380's upper deck and still have at least 17 inch wide seats? I am thinking of a 2 class configuration for the A380 with 3-5-3 economy seating and 2-4-2 business class seating in the lower deck and 3-3-3 economy seating in the upper deck with at least 17 inch wide seats with 31 inch seat pitch in economy.
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Old June 18th, 2015, 05:49 PM   #7466
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Singapore Airlines - Heathrow -By Nowak Kamil

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Old June 20th, 2015, 03:24 AM   #7467
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China Southern has started A380 today on the PEK-AMS-PEK route. First European route with the A380 for China Southern. The A380 stays on till mid October before switching back to the CAN-SYD-CAN route for the second half of the year.
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Old June 20th, 2015, 09:40 AM   #7468
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You all need to stop using abbreviations when it comes to airliners and airports to make threads like this a little more accessible to those of us without a background in aviation.
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Old June 20th, 2015, 09:55 AM   #7469
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AIRBUS | A380 News & Discussion

But that's how a lot of professionals and amateurs discuss aviation topics like this. Even I use it too since it is much quicker to type them than typing the full names of routes. To decipher what those codes mean, you can always ask us.

PEK = Beijing
AMS = Amsterdam
CAN = Guangzhou
SYD = Sydney

And by the way, with China Southern operating an A380 to Amsterdam from Beijing, that would put KLM into a capacity and cabin competition since the latter only provides J (Business) and Y (Economy) classes, while the former also provides First Class.
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Old June 21st, 2015, 07:17 AM   #7470
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Airbus in early talks over moderate A380 stretch

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...tretch-413552/
I really do think airbus is clueless ...... Stretching the plane and adding seats isnt necessary. If Airbus could put the A380 on a diet and lose some weight.

More weight loss = fuel savings
New Engine Options = Fuel savings
Lighter materials = fuel savings

The fuel savings would less the cost of what it takes to run the plane and create more revenue per flight. But hey .... stretch the plane out and add more empty seats per flights!
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Old June 21st, 2015, 07:44 AM   #7471
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I really do think airbus is clueless ...... Stretching the plane and adding seats isnt necessary. If Airbus could put the A380 on a diet and lose some weight.

More weight loss = fuel savings
New Engine Options = Fuel savings
Lighter materials = fuel savings

The fuel savings would less the cost of what it takes to run the plane and create more revenue per flight. But hey .... stretch the plane out and add more empty seats per flights!
Why do you post on this thread? Why do you even bother? It seems Airbus can do nothing right in your eyes.
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Old June 21st, 2015, 12:59 PM   #7472
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Singapore Airlines Airbus A380 braking on wet runway HD

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Old June 21st, 2015, 04:47 PM   #7473
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Why do you post on this thread? Why do you even bother? It seems Airbus can do nothing right in your eyes.
Its because I dont understand how a company thinks the way it does?

going "hey lets stretch the A380"

So you are going to make it longer and add seats when your current plane that can fit up to 824 passengers isnt selling?

Its all about getting the cost of flying a plane down .....vs the revenue it brings in.

380 has to pay a large crew to run the plane
bigger maintenance due to the size of the plane
fuel costs that have to be through the roof to fill.

Airlines cant cut the crew working due to size of the plane
Airlines cant cut maintenance costs due to plane safety

But fuel savings is possible. Airlines use less fuel to fill the plane = less of a cost and more revenue.
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Old June 21st, 2015, 05:32 PM   #7474
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But of course, we armchair experts will always have a clearer picture of the aviation industry than manufacturers can ever dream!
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Old June 21st, 2015, 06:57 PM   #7475
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Exactly, like we always know better than the manager of a football team... But I sincerely doubt Airbus is not listening to Emirates and other (potential) A380 buyers before they announce the successor of the current A380. Look at the A350, at first they were stubborn, but in the end they did listen. Surely they have learnt a small lesson there? Even though, in the end (in hind sight) they might have had it 'right' a tiny bit when they introduced the A330neo. Also, Rolls Royce is already working on a new/updated engine for the A380. We'll just have to wait for the announcement.
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Old June 22nd, 2015, 04:21 AM   #7476
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380 has to pay a large crew to run the plane
bigger maintenance due to the size of the plane
fuel costs that have to be through the roof to fill.
All those costs are higher for the two smaller aircraft the A380 theoretically replaces.

A fully packed A380 is cheaper per pax than two full packed aircraft half the size.



Nevertheless I agree with you that a 380neo is necessary. Not just for Airbus or its customers, but for efficiency sake.
On routes like New York-London there are sooo many aircraft. For the planet's sake reduce that number by flying bigger aircraft. The waste caused by flying so many smaller aircraft annoys me.
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Old June 22nd, 2015, 04:52 AM   #7477
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All those costs are higher for the two smaller aircraft the A380 theoretically replaces.

A fully packed A380 is cheaper per pax than two full packed aircraft half the size.



Nevertheless I agree with you that a 380neo is necessary. Not just for Airbus or its customers, but for efficiency sake.
On routes like New York-London there are sooo many aircraft. For the planet's sake reduce that number by flying bigger aircraft. The waste caused by flying so many smaller aircraft annoys me.
A fully packed A380 ...... how often does that happen? Rumor has it that the A380 just to break even for the flight has to be atleast 80% full.

Also for flights like NY - London .... they have multiple flights a day because thats what passengers want. They want the flexibility of choosing when they leave instead 1 flight at 1 flight per day. So you wont see bigger planes and less flights.

Some occasions that happens ... I believe Air France to LA has 1 A380 vs 2 777 flights.

So some markets its good to have an A380 and other times it doesnt work.
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Old June 22nd, 2015, 05:50 AM   #7478
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I've been on a fully packed A380 before.
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Old June 22nd, 2015, 06:24 AM   #7479
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I've been on a fully packed A380 before.
So have I.
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Old June 22nd, 2015, 05:16 PM   #7480
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