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Old December 4th, 2015, 01:10 AM   #7801
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Malaysia have announced a large 90-100 route codeshare with EK today, pretty much anywhere important in Europe is via via Dubai.

Not sure where they will deploy the A380 now, Probably Kuala Lumpur to HK only and that only utilising 2 of them. 2 are grounded since the summer and the other 4 are 'available' for sale in 2016 along with the 2.

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Old December 4th, 2015, 02:52 AM   #7802
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Malaysia have announced a large 90-100 route codeshare with EK today, pretty much anywhere important in Europe is via via Dubai.

Not sure where they will deploy the A380 now, Probably Kuala Lumpur to HK only and that only utilising 2 of them. 2 are grounded since the summer and the other 4 are 'available' for sale in 2016 along with the 2.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/m...aris-amsterdam
Yeah, it's crystal clear that the Airbus A380 is becoming a Middle Eastern airliner. It is difficult for me to see how or why Airbus would want to invest billions for an A380 neo for such a limited market.
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Old December 4th, 2015, 08:59 AM   #7803
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Malaysia have announced a large 90-100 route codeshare with EK today, pretty much anywhere important in Europe is via via Dubai.

Not sure where they will deploy the A380 now, Probably Kuala Lumpur to HK only and that only utilising 2 of them. 2 are grounded since the summer and the other 4 are 'available' for sale in 2016 along with the 2.
The obvious route on which MH should put the A380 following a major codeshare deal with EK is KL-Dubai.
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Old December 4th, 2015, 10:34 AM   #7804
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Considering the deal mirrors that of the QF/EK deal I'd say KUL-DXB would be the most logical route for their A380's. Eventually when/if the A380's are sold probably switch over to frequency on the KUL-DXB route utilising A330's.
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Old December 4th, 2015, 11:04 AM   #7805
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The obvious route on which MH should put the A380 following a major codeshare deal with EK is KL-Dubai.
IF they keep them. They are all for sale. I can see Thai doing a mega codeshare too but that could be with Etihad or Qatar, not just EK.
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Old December 4th, 2015, 03:44 PM   #7806
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Considering the deal mirrors that of the QF/EK deal I'd say KUL-DXB would be the most logical route for their A380's. Eventually when/if the A380's are sold probably switch over to frequency on the KUL-DXB route utilising A330's.
Emirates flies the DXB-KUL-DXB on their own A380s. Maybe Emirates will let MH fly their own A380s to DXB from KUL and open more routes to Malaysia with Emirates A380s.
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Old December 4th, 2015, 07:33 PM   #7807
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Emirates flies the DXB-KUL-DXB on their own A380s. Maybe Emirates will let MH fly their own A380s to DXB from KUL and open more routes to Malaysia with Emirates A380s.
The issue EK is currently facing are slot restrictions therefore this deal could see EK/MH add capacity DXB-LHR utilising MH A380's. I understand MH plans are to focus on Asia and allow EK to provide the European, UK, Africa feed but I'm sure MH would put their aircraft to good use on the LHR route.
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Old December 5th, 2015, 01:52 AM   #7808
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The issue EK is currently facing are slot restrictions therefore this deal could see EK/MH add capacity DXB-LHR utilising MH A380's.
EK could send back to back A380s in and out of Heathrow now to suit their 2 major peaks in Dubai. That's how big they are. This assuming they can get them.

QF were in a spot of bother in Heathrow earlier this year and were threatened with a $30k US fine for every late arrival. Maybe they'll give EK those slots on loan, easier to be on time if you are only coming from Dubai, same with Malaysia. Both QF and Malysia arguably have spare Heathrow slots now.

Best perhaps for QF and Malaysia to fly to Dubai and let EK have their Heathrow slots, the Malaysia CEO previously worked for an airline whose 2nd largest asset after their airbus fleet was their Heathrow slots, he would know.

So yes, maybe QF and Malaysia are not only code sharing but parlaying their Heathrow slots because EK needs them, we shall see.
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Old December 5th, 2015, 05:09 AM   #7809
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EK could send back to back A380s in and out of Heathrow now to suit their 2 major peaks in Dubai. That's how big they are. This assuming they can get them. QF were in a spot of bother in Heathrow earlier this year and were threatened with a $30k US fine for every late arrival. Maybe they'll give EK those slots on loan, easier to be on time if you are only coming from Dubai, same with Malaysia. Both QF and Malysia arguably have spare Heathrow slots now. Best perhaps for QF and Malaysia to fly to Dubai and let EK have their Heathrow slots, the Malaysia CEO previously worked for an airline whose 2nd largest asset after their airbus fleet was their Heathrow slots, he would know. So yes, maybe QF and Malaysia are not only code sharing but parlaying their Heathrow slots because EK needs them, we shall see.
This is the perfect route to deploy the MH A380's combined with QF's 2 x daily services & EK 5 x daily that's a lot capacity going into slot restricted LHR.

I believe QF have plans for their 2 remaining LHR as they'll become available at a time when the B789's come online. I'd say QF are keen to link BNE & PER with direct LHR services eventually.

Very interesting times ahead.
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Old December 6th, 2015, 04:22 PM   #7810
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This is the perfect route to deploy the MH A380's combined with QF's 2 x daily services & EK 5 x daily that's a lot capacity going into slot restricted LHR.

I believe QF have plans for their 2 remaining LHR as they'll become available at a time when the B789's come online. I'd say QF are keen to link BNE & PER with direct LHR services eventually.

Very interesting times ahead.
MH is already maintaining its nonstop KL-LHR flights as London is a large critical business market for them. Deploying A380s to LHR via DXB just doesn't make sense. Sure it will further expand their codeshare network, but MH maintained it and soon will cut all other European routes, meaning it wants London to be served nonstop. It would make more sense if one of their A380s serve the KUL-DXB route instead.
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Old December 6th, 2015, 10:42 PM   #7811
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MH is already maintaining its nonstop KL-LHR flights as London is a large critical business market for them. Deploying A380s to LHR via DXB just doesn't make sense. Sure it will further expand their codeshare network, but MH maintained it and soon will cut all other European routes, meaning it wants London to be served nonstop. It would make more sense if one of their A380s serve the KUL-DXB route instead.
I also think they'll fly direct to LHR or else they would of mentioned dropping it like Paris, and Amsterdam. This is a big hit on One World because Paris, and Amsterdam are their focus cities in Europe.

Bad side of this is EK's already getting very good loads out of Amsterdam without Malaysia, and for now they have been blocked from adding extra capacity. I even think EK have maxed out their Paris access as well.

Good side is EK will have lot's of extra access to China, and second/third tier cities in Asia.
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Old December 7th, 2015, 04:09 AM   #7812
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Yeah, it's crystal clear that the Airbus A380 is becoming a Middle Eastern airliner. It is difficult for me to see how or why Airbus would want to invest billions for an A380 neo for such a limited market.
I don't think A380 is just a Middle Eastern airliner. Soon who knows major airlines in China and India will be flying A380 because of their huge population. Both these markets are pretty big
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Old December 7th, 2015, 06:59 AM   #7813
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I don't think A380 is just a Middle Eastern airliner. Soon who knows major airlines in China and India will be flying A380 because of their huge population. Both these markets are pretty big
No, almost all domestic flying in China and India is on narrow-bodies. Some of the heaviest routes (like Beijing-Shanghai or Delhi-Bombay) might get up-gauged to A330neo or 787.

China already has a few A380s, but there doesn't seem to be interest in getting anymore. Looks like they're going with A350 and 777X for long-haul international routes.
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Old December 8th, 2015, 01:20 PM   #7814
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Korean Air Airbus A380-861 HL7622 by Mark Harris, on Flickr



Airbus A380-800 by Anthony Chon, on Flickr



Airbus A380 Thaï Airways by JEAN-BAPTISTE Rouer, on Flickr
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Old December 9th, 2015, 01:54 AM   #7815
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China already has a few A380s
They have rather a lot of them, they are called High Speed Trains in China.
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Old December 9th, 2015, 09:56 AM   #7816
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Etihad joins the league of airlines who are not interested in a A380neo.
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Etihad Airways not interested in upgraded Airbus A380 superjumbo

Etihad Airways is not interested in a stretched upgrade to the A380, which Dubai-based Emirates airline has asked Airbus to build, according to chief executive James Hogan.

The Abu Dhabi-based airline has 10 A380s together in its fleet and on order.

“We think the new technology (with) two engines is operationally and economically more advantageous to us in the long term,” Mr Hogan said, referring to Airbus’s twin-engine A350-1000 and the next generation 777 from the Boeing.
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Old December 10th, 2015, 02:22 AM   #7817
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Emirates is planning on expanding its A380 network to Guangzhou.
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Old December 11th, 2015, 03:31 PM   #7818
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EK recieved their 71st A380 today registration number A6-EOS. It's their 4 two class air frame now. Hopefully EK will receive two more A380's by the end of the year.
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Old December 12th, 2015, 05:01 AM   #7819
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I doubt it's going to help sell more A380s, but at least it raises Airbus' morale:

Airbus A380 named best aircraft in the world... the first time Boeing has failed to bag the award

And here's the original source:

http://www.globaltravelerusa.com/glo...survey-awards/
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Old December 15th, 2015, 02:33 AM   #7820
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Emirates "United for Wildlife" A380 (A6-EDG)
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