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Old January 18th, 2016, 05:35 PM   #7941
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IAG is looking at leasing used A380s

18 January 2016, ©. Leeham Co in Dublin: Willie Walsh, the CEO of IAG (which is the holding of Brittish Airways, IBERIA, Vueling and Air Lingus) spoke at the Growth Frontiers 2016 conference in Dublin about how the new IAG has become more agile in following market changes to opportunistically increase its operational efficiency.

Walsh gave the example of IAG’s aircraft fleets where he announced that it is looking to lease five to six used Airbus A380s in addition to the ones that British Airways (BA) already have on order. These could be aircraft for BA only use but also for a joint BA and IBERIA operation.
Walsh spoke about the A380 as he was speaking about the transformation that had taken place at the different operating companies in the IAG group. As an example of successful changes in their operating practices, he took the examples from their fleet strategy and started with the A380.
It is a “fanstastic aircraft when you can fill it” Walsh said, but it is inflexible. It only works at certain segments of your network where you can fill it and where frequency is not of prime importance. But when it fits, it brings “fantastic results. Not only could we lower cost by flying two A380s instead of three Boeing 747s between London Heathrow and Los Angeles or one A380 and one Boeing 777 to Washington instead of three 777s, but we also gained a precious Heathrow slots in each of those changes”.
“So the A380 works extremely well for us and we are prepared to increase our fleet beyond the 12 we are planning to get. But the options we have for A380s are expensive. We will instead do something unusual for BA,” he said. “We will go for used aircraft and lease them. It shows how BA has changed; we are prepared to adapt to a changing market and to take opportunities that come our way.”
Walsh said that “another opportunity we also look at is leasing 777-300ERs. We brought the 777-300ER late into our fleet, actually too late. It is a very effective and flexible aircraft. We now see that we could need more and once again we are prepared to lease these. Again something that the old BA would not do.
“A final example of how we react to changes in the market is the question of the A340-600 in IBERA’s fleet. These are really good aircraft for IBERIA’s South American destinations,” he said. “But it is not a great aircraft with fuel at $120 a barrel. At $60 or below it is a very attractive aircraft, so while we might have planned to replace it at a certain time previously, we now see no reason to look into changing that aircraft as long as the fuel price stays at the present low levels.”
http://leehamnews.com/2016/01/18/iag...medium=twitter

I'm rather sure whose frames these will be:
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Old January 18th, 2016, 06:13 PM   #7942
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Malaysian frames and Singapore frames coming off lease I would expect. If Willie brands them IAG not BA he can use them anwhere, even Heathrow Dublin at christmas once the Superheavy gate is ready in Dublin this year.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 07:39 PM   #7943
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Willie also said that BA will not take any of their A380 options up.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSL8N1522BI
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Old January 18th, 2016, 08:36 PM   #7944
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Most likely the Malaysian Airlines A380s. The Singapore Airlines A380s that will come of lease 1st are all early production frames that were also used for the certification program up to the delivery in 2007/2008. They are not as good in terms of performance as the Malaysian frames that were delivered from 2011. And Malaysian wants to get rid of them much faster then Singapore Airlines.


Another thing we know from this news is that Airbus is not giving out large discounts on A380, not even to the current operators.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 11:11 PM   #7945
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Airbus might have a new customer for its A380:

Iran to Buy 114 Airbus Jets, May Seek Boeings Post-Sanctions

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January 16, 2016 — 3:27 PM EST


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Iran has agreed to buy 114 Airbus Group SE aircraft for state carrier Iran Air, Minister of Roads and Urban Development Abbas Akhoundi said Saturday before international sanctions were lifted on the Islamic Republic.

The deal includes a mix of new and used jets from the A320 family and the out-of-production A340s, an Iranian official said, asking not be identified because the details are private. The first deliveries are due as early as July, he said.

Iran has complied with the terms of an international agreement to curb its nuclear program, clearing the way for sanctions to end, the United Nations’ International Atomic Energy Agency said Saturday. That will pave the way for Iran to purchase sorely needed aircraft to renew an aging fleet, feed domestic demand at its 50 airports in a nation of 80 million people and expand international flying.

“When the Iran sanctions are lifted, Airbus Group is ready to support Iranian civil and para-public transportation sector development in strict compliance with all international laws (U.S., EU and UN sanctions and embargoes),‎” a spokeswoman for Toulouse, France-based Airbus said in an e-mailed statement. Para-public transportation refers to helicopters used by police and border-control agencies.

(...) Iran also is interested in Airbus wide-body planes including A350s and the A380 double-decker as it seeks to add destinations in the U.S., Canada, Australia and Europe to directly serve the Iranian population scattered there rather than connecting through Dubai or Istanbul hubs, the Iranian official said.
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Old January 19th, 2016, 01:14 AM   #7946
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The Iranians can buy used 777-200 or 767 aircraft for $10m each or a single new A380 for 37 times that.

They have an ancient fleet of 747s and A300s, probably the oldest flying passenger carrying examples of each of those types, what would you do??
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Old January 19th, 2016, 02:12 AM   #7947
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Emirates | Airbus A380 at Chhatrapati Shivaji Int'l Airport,Mumbai operating as EK500/501 !

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Old January 19th, 2016, 04:59 PM   #7948
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The Iranians can buy used 777-200 or 767 aircraft for $10m each or a single new A380 for 37 times that.

They have an ancient fleet of 747s and A300s, probably the oldest flying passenger carrying examples of each of those types, what would you do??

They are interested in Airbus planes, no sign that they are interested in old or very old Boeing jets. The fleet's average age is over 26 years, they need fresh blood and not the junk of other Airlines!
They will replace the old 747-200 and A300 by younger A340's.

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Old January 19th, 2016, 06:22 PM   #7949
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They are interested in Airbus planes, no sign that they are interested in old or very old Boeing jets. The fleet's average age is over 26 years, they need fresh blood and not the junk of other Airlines!
They will replace the old 747-200 and A300 by younger A340's.
Yes, but why exactly A340, I wonder? They're going out of fashion everywhere else, like most other four-engine aircraft, because they're not terribly fuel efficient. Do the Iranian airlines (this country being a major petroleum producer) have access to cheap jet fuel?
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Old January 19th, 2016, 06:42 PM   #7950
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Yeah but there are a lot of late model A340s stored up and Avgas prices are down where they were 10 years ago. Teruel has a selection for you.

http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos....uel%20-%20LETL

Skymark, Transaero and UT are only just out of business.
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Old January 19th, 2016, 07:44 PM   #7951
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The german newspaper Welt reported that Iran will lease or purchase up to 22 A340 from Airbus, the oldest one from 1997, the latest from 2008.

They are available right now, Iran has no problem with gas, a good business for both sides.
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Old January 19th, 2016, 08:01 PM   #7952
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The german newspaper Welt reported that Iran will lease or purchase up to 22 A340 from Airbus, the oldest one from 1997, the latest from 2008.
Airbus has precisely 22 A340s for sale or coming soon as you say. They surely couldn't get rid of the lot in one go, the lucky bastards.

They will have to train a LOT of Iranian pilots to convert them off the antiques they fly nowadays.

http://www.airbus.com/company/market...aft-available/

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Old January 19th, 2016, 10:45 PM   #7953
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With oil cheap for a long time, nothing wrong with dirt cheap A340s.
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Old January 20th, 2016, 07:22 AM   #7954
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Old January 20th, 2016, 12:55 PM   #7955
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Old January 23rd, 2016, 07:25 AM   #7956
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Old January 23rd, 2016, 07:27 PM   #7957
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Old January 23rd, 2016, 11:54 PM   #7958
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We had some wild animals here @Mumbai !!

Emirates | Airbus A380 | A6-EEI wearing special livery in support of United for Wildlife, a global collaboration that unites the efforts of the world’s leading wildlife charities in the fight against the illegal wildlife trade.

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Old January 24th, 2016, 01:56 PM   #7959
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Finally we get some NEWS instead of planespotting gack. 8 (mainly?) new A380s may be on order with delivery in 2019. Iran Air the carrier.

http://www.reuters.com/article/iran-...-idUSL8N158076
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Old January 24th, 2016, 05:46 PM   #7960
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