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Old June 12th, 2017, 05:42 PM   #8521
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various news outlets reporting that Airbus are looking at replacing the A380 wingtip fence with a sharklet which would give efficiency gains of around 4% and make it wider.
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Old June 12th, 2017, 06:27 PM   #8522
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various news outlets reporting that Airbus are looking at replacing the A380 wingtip fence with a sharklet which would give efficiency gains of around 4% and make it wider.


A "Whale" sharklet. Nice!
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Old June 15th, 2017, 11:23 PM   #8523
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Old June 17th, 2017, 02:39 PM   #8524
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Old June 17th, 2017, 03:12 PM   #8525
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Does Boeing get any money for Airbus using their sharklet on the a380?
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Old June 17th, 2017, 03:34 PM   #8526
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Boeing's split scimitar winglets on an Airbus plane?
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Old June 17th, 2017, 03:47 PM   #8527
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They look more like the Aviation Partners split scimitar winglets for the 737 NG's then the Boeing ones for the 737 MAX.

Anyway, they look so small on the A380, but that could just be because the rest of the plane is so much bigger.
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Old June 17th, 2017, 07:00 PM   #8528
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I think it's just static demonstration. F-WWDD is currently storage at Le Bourget Museum
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Old June 18th, 2017, 06:46 PM   #8529
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Airbus is presenting a development study for an enhanced A380, the “A380plus”. The study includes aerodynamic improvements in particular new, large winglets and other wing refinements that allow for up to 4% fuel burn savings. Added to an optimised A380 maintenance programme and the enhanced cabin features first shown at Aircraft Interiors Expo (AIX) in April, the overall benefit is a 13% cost per seat reduction versus today’s A380.






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Old June 18th, 2017, 07:55 PM   #8530
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Can the common A380s be retrofitted to an A380plus?
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Old June 18th, 2017, 09:31 PM   #8531
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Can the common A380s be retrofitted to an A380plus?
Yes. Same as the older A320 family got the sharklets.
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Old June 18th, 2017, 10:11 PM   #8532
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How is Airbus increasing seat number in this new A380 plus? Decreasing seat pitch? Or, heavens forbid, going 3-5-3?
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Old June 18th, 2017, 10:19 PM   #8533
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How is Airbus increasing seat number in this new A380 plus? Decreasing seat pitch? Or, heavens forbid, going 3-5-3?
Yes 11-abreast in economy (3-5-3). As you can see in the video posted above.
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Old June 18th, 2017, 11:14 PM   #8534
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PARIS: Enhanced 'A380plus' to have higher MTOW

Airbus is to increase the maximum take-off weight of the A380 as part of a package of enhancements to the aircraft, which it will collectively brand as the 'A380plus'.
The airframer has disclosed the improved performance during the Paris air show.
Increasing the take-off weight will enable the current version of the aircraft to extend its range by 300nm.


The A380plus – which is still formally a development study – will also feature winglets which will provide up to 4% reduction in fuel-burn.
Airbus says the A380plus will include previously-disclosed measures to raise accommodation by 80 seats at the A380's current range of 8,200nm.


The manufacturer expects the enhanced aircraft to cut cost-per-seat by 13% against its predecessor.


“It is a new step for our iconic aircraft to best serve worldwide fast-growing traffic and the evolving needs of the A380 customers," says chief operating officer for customers John Leahy, adding that the A380plus will have lower maintenance costs.


Airbus has previously shown off incremental upgrades to the A380 which will become part of the A380plus.
These include modified interior arrangements including higher-density seating, modified forward and aft staircases, a relocated crew rest, and changes to sidewall stowage.


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Old June 18th, 2017, 11:25 PM   #8535
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According to Airbus.. the A380plus is NOT a retrofit.. it can't be installed in old A380s
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Old June 18th, 2017, 11:51 PM   #8536
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According to Airbus.. the A380plus is NOT a retrofit.. it can't be installed in old A380s
That would be bad. Funnily enough Airbus has "retrofitted"/upgraded the A380 test aircraft with winglets. Maybe it's not recommended for regular use.

I guess we will see.
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Old June 19th, 2017, 01:08 AM   #8537
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Airbus has not really retrofitted these winglets, these are just a mock-up of this new winglets to have see how it fits and to show it to the world. This A380 will never fly with this winglet not fully structurally attached to it's wing.

It remains to be seen if it will attract new orders with these measures. For now the only airline mentioned by the press Airbus is talking to is Emirates.
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Old June 19th, 2017, 02:57 AM   #8538
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The actual sharklet is sappose to.be five meters high, this is just a smaller temporary mock up.
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The actual sharklet is sappose to.be five meters high, this is just a smaller temporary mock up.
It's real size... 3.5m up.. and 1.2m down
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Old June 19th, 2017, 05:28 PM   #8540
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Sounds like Boeing's proposed improvements to 747-8 couple of years ago, which got a universal thumbs down.
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