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Old August 25th, 2017, 06:13 AM   #8561
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First Airbus A380 parked amid search for new operator

SINGAPORE/PARIS (Reuters) - The first Airbus A380 superjumbo to fly passengers almost a decade ago has been taken out of service by Singapore Airlines , highlighting a debate over the future of the world's largest airliners.

Singapore Airlines has already said it plans to hand back its first A380 to a German leasing company rather than extend its 10-year lease.

The move focused attention on slack demand for the 544-seat double-decker and raised the prospect that some could be headed for the breakup yard, casting a pall over celebrations to mark the airliner's 10 years of service in October.

Confirming a report in flightglobal.com, Singapore Airlines said it had parked the aircraft ahead of the transfer back to its owner. Its last commercial flight was to London in June.

"It is correct that the aircraft has been removed from service ahead of its return to the lessor in October," a spokesperson for the airline said by email.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/first...6--sector.html


It will be a sad day when you no longer see any A380's at the airport.
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Old August 26th, 2017, 08:23 PM   #8562
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Portuguese ACMI specialist Hi Fly to add A380s

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...y-to-add-a380s

The article is behind a paywall. But it has already come out that they will take 2 secondhand A380s in early 2018. It's not clear how and where they are going to deploy them, but they are a specialist in west leasing to other airlines and special occasions like Hadj flights. It's not announced where they come from and in what configuration they will get.
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Old August 27th, 2017, 01:06 AM   #8563
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Old August 27th, 2017, 01:51 PM   #8564
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This German source has also talked with Hi Fly.

http://www.aerotelegraph.com/portugi...immt-zwei-a380


Hi Fly confirmed to them that the planes will be 2 class with 560 seats in total. The 2 planes will be added to their own long haul fleet and thus will be used for wet lease operations and not specifically for one airline. No confirmation of the source as not all contracts have been signed yet.
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Old August 27th, 2017, 06:10 PM   #8565
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B777 / B787 / A350

no need for Superjumbos like B747 or A380 anymore.
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Old August 27th, 2017, 06:16 PM   #8566
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It will be a sad day when you no longer see any A380's at the airport.
Funny how airports made changes to runways, taxiways and aprons in terms of strengths and widths, and built new piers to be able to accommodate them, and now there's talk they might not last much longer. Crazy.
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Old August 27th, 2017, 06:53 PM   #8567
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They will be flying for another 30 years or even longer. It's not like all will be retired in the next couple of years.
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Old August 28th, 2017, 07:30 PM   #8568
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The lack of airlines flying these birds probably will mean airports won't be willing to invest to enhance their facilities for these jets, which would be circular and make them even less desirable to use.
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Old August 29th, 2017, 12:45 PM   #8569
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They will be flying for another 30 years or even longer. It's not like all will be retired in the next couple of years.
True. But if speculation that Airbus won't continue to make them due to rising costs and unprofitability on the model, they will discontinue production. Meaning spare parts will be available only by parting out already made a380's, cannibalising fleets and decimating numbers.
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Old August 29th, 2017, 01:43 PM   #8570
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Funny how airports made changes to runways, taxiways and aprons in terms of strengths and widths, and built new piers to be able to accommodate them, and now there's talk they might not last much longer. Crazy.
There are other big aircraft coming like 777-9 with over 400 passengers. The can use the same facilities.

And who knows what will be flying in 20 years. Maybe A380 and newer and even bigger models will be in high demand again. We can't see the future and there are always surprises.
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Old August 29th, 2017, 06:41 PM   #8571
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True. But if speculation that Airbus won't continue to make them due to rising costs and unprofitability on the model, they will discontinue production. Meaning spare parts will be available only by parting out already made a380's, cannibalising fleets and decimating numbers.
It will not go that fast. At the current production rate the line will stay open for several years. And since there areno direct replacements, the 777X is still considerably smaller, they will won't be replaced too soon.

SIA for example will only retire their 1st 5 early, but intent to keep the others longer then they normally keep their planes.
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Old August 29th, 2017, 08:15 PM   #8572
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A380 facilites were unique because they allowed you to board on both the levels simultaneously. Useless for a 777.
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Old September 1st, 2017, 08:13 AM   #8573
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I wonder what the secondary market is like for the A380, whether they could be re-lifed for all-Y services for connectors between super hubs - e.g. LHR/JFK/DXB/SIN/HKG
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Old September 1st, 2017, 08:48 AM   #8574
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Those airports are only super hubs for major airlines, who are not interested in providing all Y fligths between their major markets. The airlines that have their hubs at those airports have already decided to operate the A380 or not anyway. The ones that do operate the A380 already.
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Old September 9th, 2017, 08:26 AM   #8575
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Emirates wavers on A380 deal; concerned Airbus may scrap jet



Originally published September 7, 2017 at 7:04 pm
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Emirates, the world’s biggest long-haul airline, is holding out for assurances about the future of Airbus’ A380 program before committing to an $8 billion order for more of the double-decker aircraft.

While Airbus is pushing for a deal at November’s air show in Dubai, where the carrier is based, concern that the value of used A380s will plummet if the slow-selling model is canceled represents a major sticking point, together with the proposed price, Emirates President Tim Clark said in an interview Thursday.

“I know they would like us to do something,” Clark said in London. “At the moment, we are not at that state of readiness. We need copper-bottomed undertakings that they would do everything they needed to do to keep the program going. We don’t want to be left with aircraft that have no value.”

Airbus announced in July it will slash A380 production to eight jets a year in 2019, down from 15 this year and 28 in 2016, casting doubt on the model’s future. That plan won’t change even if the Toulouse, France-based aircraft manufacturer gets another purchase contract before the end of this year, unless the number of planes bought is unexpectedly high, Chief Executive Tom Enders said at the time.
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Old September 30th, 2017, 06:56 AM   #8576
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Come on China -don't let us down:

Airbus Looks to China for A380 Jumbo Amid Sluggish Global Sales

Sept. 19, 2017, at 6:05 a.m.

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Chinese airlines could need between 60 and 100 Airbus A380 jets over the next five or so years as passenger traffic grows, the plane maker's China head said on Tuesday, amid rising questions over future demand for the super jumbo.

Strong demand in China - if translated into orders - would be a major boost for the A380, the world's biggest jetliner, which has faced sluggish demand as airlines shift focus towards a generation of nimbler, more fuel-efficient long-haul planes such as the A350 and rival Boeing Co's 787.

China is the world's fastest growing aviation market and is a key battleground for Airbus as well as Boeing which recently predicted the country would spend over $1 trillion on planes over the next 20 years.

"When I look at the market flow, the passenger flow, route by route and the economics, I'm fully confident that the Chinese carriers will need a minimum of 60 A380s over the next 5 to 7 years," Airbus China Head Eric Chen said at an event in Beijing.
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Old September 30th, 2017, 10:25 AM   #8577
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Usually this kind of information comes out through the media it's that there are currently no sales talks.

If the Chinese airlines and the CAAC would actually be talking with Airbus right now for an A380 deal it would have been kept quiet in order not to hurt the the sales negotiations.

Maybe Airbus could first shed some light on the status on the now unidentified order for 10 A380s which were originally ordered by Hong Kong Airlines.
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Engine failure on AF66 in the middle of the flight.





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