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Old December 7th, 2006, 03:22 AM   #1081
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THAI warns it may cancel A380 order

Thai Airways International (THAI), the national carrier, on Wednesday insisted that Airbus compensate it for delays in the scheduled delivery of six A380s at the same level that other airlines receive from the European airplane manufacturer.

"The compensation can't be less than that given to other airlines," said THAI President Apinan Sumanaseni.

THAI and Airbus are currently negotiating the level of compensation the national carrier will receive, but if the talks fail the order of six A380s, Airbus's leviathan aircraft that can carry 555 passengers, may be cancelled.

"Cancellation will come if the negotations fail," Apinan told a press conference at Bangkok's Suvarnabhumi Airport, where Airbus landed a test A380 on Tuesday.

THAI is one of 15 airlines to have pre-ordered a total of 166 A380s, Airbus's newest and biggest aircraft which has run into considerable production delays.

Other Asian airlines that have ordered A380s include Singapore Airlines (19), Korean Air (5), Malaysia Airlines (6), and China Southern (5). Quantas Airways, a major rival in the region, has ordered 20.

Thai Airways planned to use the A380 on its popular routes from Bangkok to Frankfurt, London and Paris.

"THAI and Airbus have a long relationship," said Airbus Vice President for the Asia Pacific Edourd Ullmo. "There will be compensation but the amount is still under negotiation."

THAI's board of directors is expected to announce the outcome of the compensation negotiations on December 19, Apinan said.

Airbus expects its A380 to be certified by the European Aviation Safety Agency and US Federal Aviation Administration this month, after it successfully competed its route-proving tests for the new aircraft last month.
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Old December 7th, 2006, 03:24 AM   #1082
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TG talks with Airbus going smoothly so far
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Negotiations between Thai Airways International and the European plane maker Airbus on compensation for the two-year delivery delay of six A380 superjumbos have so far been mutually acceptable, executives said yesterday. The discussions, expected to be concluded ahead of the Dec 19 THAI board meeting, raised the prospect that the national carrier would not terminate the US$1.7 billion order for six A380s.


''Both parties are satisfied with the negotiations so far,'' THAI president Apinan Sumanaseni said. But he quickly noted that ''if the talks are not successful then we need to cancel the orders.''


Mr Apinan said that if the airline could reach a deal with Airbus this week or next week, then the result would be announced at the Dec 19 board meeting.Edourad Ullmo, Airbus's executive vice-president for the Asia Pacific market, expressed optimism yesterday, saying, ''Airbus hopes to be able to finalise the talks (with THAI) in weeks if not days.''


In a press briefing yesterday, Mr Ullmo was apologetic about the A380 delays and asked THAI for forgiveness.


The THAI president said the negotiations revolved around lost business opportunities that may arise from the delays of the megajets. The airline planned to use them on its key long-haul routes.


On THAI flights to Paris, London and Frankfurt, the superjumbos would help the airline overcome time slot restrictions. Congestion at those European airports is expected to prevent airlines from increasing flight frequencies.


The superjumbo, which can carry more than 800 passengers, would allow airlines to meet rising demand for seats without scheduling more flights.


THAI is using the deals Airbus struck earlier with Singapore Airlines and Australia's Qantas as the yardstick for negotiations.


''What we are getting from Airbus will not be less than what SIA and Qantas got,'' Mr Apinan said.
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Old December 8th, 2006, 04:46 PM   #1083
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Old December 9th, 2006, 04:05 AM   #1084
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a month ago,it is flight for test from beijing to shanghai,it looks huge conpared with other planes,it seems very wonderful in thid flight-test.relatively commodious inside with a stable journey
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Old January 5th, 2007, 10:07 AM   #1085
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No alternative to delayed A380 superjumbo for Emirates: executive

PARIS, 2 jan 2007 (AFP) - Dubai-based airline Emirates, currently negotiating compensation with Airbus for delays to the delivery of the A380 superjumbo, foresees no replacement for the aircraft, a top airline executicve said Tuesday.

"On the market at the moment there is no replacement aircraft for the A380 and there is therefore no reason for us not to maintain our orders," Jean-Luc Grillet, general director for Emirates operations in France, Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg, told the radio station BFM.

Emirates, the principal client for the A380 with orders for 43 planes, was the first company publicly to seek compensation for delivery delays for what will be the world's largest civilian airliner.

The British newspaper The Observer reported in early October that Emirates had sought 223 million euros (290 million dollars) from Airbus after the manufacturer announced its third delivery delay since September 2005.

Airbus informed the carrier that the first delivery would not come before August 2008. The aircraft had been scheduled to be delivered to Emirates in October 2007.
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Old January 5th, 2007, 10:45 AM   #1086
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No alternative to delayed A380 superjumbo for Emirates: executive

PARIS, 2 jan 2007 (AFP) - Dubai-based airline Emirates, currently negotiating compensation with Airbus for delays to the delivery of the A380 superjumbo, foresees no replacement for the aircraft, a top airline executicve said Tuesday.

"On the market at the moment there is no replacement aircraft for the A380 and there is therefore no reason for us not to maintain our orders," Jean-Luc Grillet, general director for Emirates operations in France, Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg, told the radio station BFM.

Emirates, the principal client for the A380 with orders for 43 planes, was the first company publicly to seek compensation for delivery delays for what will be the world's largest civilian airliner.

The British newspaper The Observer reported in early October that Emirates had sought 223 million euros (290 million dollars) from Airbus after the manufacturer announced its third delivery delay since September 2005.

Airbus informed the carrier that the first delivery would not come before August 2008. The aircraft had been scheduled to be delivered to Emirates in October 2007.
good news for airbus.

but why in christ's name would you need so many damn gigantic-ass planes?

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Old January 5th, 2007, 12:37 PM   #1087
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good news for airbus.

but why in christ's name would you need so many damn gigantic-ass planes?

see earlier post about what Singapore did with 747's in the 80's. that and Emirates are super-rich and the UAE government has a stated aim of drawing 15 million tourists a year by 2011 or sometime like that.
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Old January 5th, 2007, 07:52 PM   #1088
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see earlier post about what Singapore did with 747's in the 80's. that and Emirates are super-rich and the UAE government has a stated aim of drawing 15 million tourists a year by 2011 or sometime like that.
Do you have a link to the post about what Singapore did with the 747's? Did they order a bunch of 747's like Emirates is with the A380's and have people think they're crazy for ordering so many?
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Old January 29th, 2007, 09:47 PM   #1089
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so what's the latest on the a380 at the moment?
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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:00 AM   #1090
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so what's the latest on the a380 at the moment?
According to the hot air on airliners.net:

- Added spacing regulations due to wake turbulence: Reduced!

- Early wing failure mode: Fixed!

- Wiring problem on the first plane going to Singapore Airlines: Solved!

The wiring for the rest of the planes [I guess each airlines specification requires a different fix] is still being resolved, but it appears the major hurdles have been cleared.

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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:08 AM   #1091
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The wiring for the first 25 whales will all be jerry-rigged; with a standardised installation only from the 26th units onwards.
The all-important Production Certificate is still to be obtained.
And as usual, information from Airbus/EADS are still not so forthcoming.
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Old January 31st, 2007, 11:49 PM   #1092
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The A380 looks like a bus IMO
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Old February 1st, 2007, 05:02 AM   #1093
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what an observation :]
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Old February 1st, 2007, 04:01 PM   #1094
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Maybe like a double decker one xD
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Old February 2nd, 2007, 01:39 AM   #1095
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A380 = Airbus 380

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so when will we start seeing these beasts in the air? without reading previous posts they were meant to start hitting the skies around now?
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Old February 6th, 2007, 03:58 AM   #1097
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First flown in April 2005.
Originally slated to begin revenue service early 2006.
Due to huge production delay, first & only delivery in 2007 (to SIA) now re-scheduled to October.....followed by 13 more in 2008.
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Old February 6th, 2007, 04:30 AM   #1098
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Airbus to take journalists aloft to tout its A380 superjumbo

PARIS, Feb 5, 2007 (AFP) - Airbus on Wednesday will take the press on a flight aboard its A380, touting the merits of its problem-plagued superjumbo that has saddled the company with a financial loss and imposed a painful restructuring plan.

Some 200 journalists will take off from Toulouse-Blagnac in southern France for a two-hour flight aboard the world's largest civilian airliner, during which the European manufacturer hopes to display the craft's comfort, handling ease and quietness.

The A380 has been bedeviled by production problems that have forced Airbus to postpone the plane's entry into commercial service from March-May 2006 to October 2007 and to delay most deliveries by two years, much to the displeasure of its customers.

Singapore Airlines is now scheduled to receive the first A380 this October. To date Airbus has received 166 firm orders from 15 airlines for the A380, considered critical to the manufacturer's bid to catch up with US rival Boeing.

Airbus, a unit of the European Aeronautic Defence and Space company, now expects to book a financial loss in 2006 and is facing union discontent over a restructuring drive, dubbed Power 8 and set to be unveiled on February 20.

The program is expected to to include job losses, increased sub-contracting and an overhaul of many factories.

Airbus trade unions on Monday decided to call on all French employees of the manufacturer to respect a one-hour work stoppage on Tuesday to protest the planned revamp, a trade union source told AFP.

The initiative is designed to coincide with a board meeting of Airbus parent company EADS in Paris and adds to mounting action from French and German trade unions.

Airbus employs about 55,000 people, with just under half in France.

In France, union representatives have written to French President Jacques Chirac imploring him to intervene and have organised demonstrations in front of regional and local administrative offices in France.

German Airbus employees had staged protest demonstrations at plants all around the country on Friday.

The Wall Street Journal meanwhile reported on Monday that the powerful German union IG Metall and the German works council, a body representing employees, had threatened to hold up deliveries of planes as a warning shot to management.

The management of Airbus, which also faces political pressure to preserve jobs, has said the cost-cutting plan is essential for the development of new aircraft, notably the mid-sized, longhaul A350 model.

On Sunday, German Economy Minister Michael Glos said the German government would review its defence contracts with EADS if the restructuring of Airbus severely harmed German interests.

"We insist that Germany must remain a high technology site for Airbus and particularly as far as fuselage in concerned," Glos told the Bild am Sonntag newspaper.

"If this is not the case, then Germany will have to review its defence contracts with the parent company Airbus," he added.

A German government spokesman on Monday sought to nuance Glos' remarks.

"The comments by Economy Minister (Michael Glos) have been overinterpreted a little," Thomas Steg told a news briefing here. "We're expressing clearly our interests, but we're not making any threats."
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First flown in April 2005.
Originally slated to begin revenue service early 2006.
Due to huge production delay, first & only delivery in 2007 (to SIA) now re-scheduled to October.....followed by 13 more in 2008.
That's horrible ! Isn't that the third delay for the A380?
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A380 = Airbus 380

Very clever, you!
I know

What I meant was, it looks like a mere public convenience, chunky and clumsy, not very befitting of a plane.
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