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Dahupegu · July 3rd, 2009, 03:59 PM

WOW I wanna travel in one of those suits!!! I remember when that plane came to my city (Bogota)... every one was like

***hkskyline*** · July 4th, 2009, 07:51 AM

By Melbourne_spotter from a HKADB :

koresh · July 4th, 2009, 02:24 PM

A380

***hkskyline*** · July 4th, 2009, 05:49 PM

BA Cuts Capacity, Delays Aircraft; Cuts CapEx
3 July 2009

LONDON (Dow Jones)--U.K. flag carrier British Airways PLC (BAY.LN) Friday reported another month of annual declines in passenger traffic, forcing the company to reduce summer and winter capacity further, and adding it expects delays in A380 aircraft deliveries and that it plans to shed the equivalent of up to 3,700 jobs this financial year.

The retrenchment will lead to a 20% cut in BA's spending plans this year, to GBP580 million for the financial year to end-March 2010 from an original target of GBP725 million.

The airline said it will reduce capacity from April to October by 3.5%, compared with the planned 2.5%, and will cut its winter schedule by 5%, originally planned as a 4% reduction.

In addition, it said it expects a five-month delay in the delivery of its first six Airbus A380 aircraft, with first delivery still due 2012. The delivery of the remaining six A380s will be delayed by two years, arriving in 2016.

George Stinnes, BA's treasurer and head of investor relations, decline to comment whether it would take a hit on having to renegotiate these deliveries.

But a BA spokeswoman insisted the carrier remains committed to its A380 aircraft.

A spokesman for Airbus in Paris said first delivery of the aircraft to BA remains unchanged and is scheduled for the first half of 2012. He added: "We're in constant contact with all our customers to meet and anticipate their fleet requirements and this is part and parcel of proactively managing the airbus order book."

British Airways also said it will ground its remaining three mainline Boeing 757 aircraft in summer 2010 and a further three Boeing 747-400s in winter 2010.

The carrier is facing a tough time as it tries to position itself efficiently in response to reduced demand for travel during the recession.

Traffic measured in revenue passenger kilometers, or RPKs, in June fell 3.8% from a year earlier to 9.93 billion RPKs, with total passenger numbers down 4.9% at 2.9 million. Premium traffic dropped 14.9% on the year, with non-premium traffic off by 1.3%, BA said.

A 1.7% cut in capacity, measured as available seat kilometers, still wasn't enough to satisfy waning demand. BA's passenger load factor, an indicator of how many seats an airline fills with paying passengers, fell 1.8 percentage points to 79.6%.

BA said on an underlying basis both premium and non-premium volumes and seat factors have now been stable for more than three months.

Separately, Ryanair Holding PLC (RYA.DB) said it carried 13% more passengers in June at 5.8 million, compared to the 5.2 million carried last year. Over the rolling 12 months, Ryanair carried a total 60.2 million, the highest number in its history. June load factor was up one percentage point at 85%.

Stinnes said talks with unions will continue, despite the fact the carrier failed to turn up for talks organized by the Unite and GMB worker unions Wednesday. He said both sides remain committed to finding a solution, but declined to comment further on what points the two sides may be at loggerheads over.

Shezan · July 5th, 2009, 01:17 AM

the comparison between QF 380 and that man...

koresh · July 5th, 2009, 01:54 AM

Singapore Airlines

***AltinD*** · July 5th, 2009, 10:35 AM

I can fly non-stop DXB - BKK with EK's A380 for $820 for a 6hr 20min flight, or I can fly Qatar Airways (probably a A340) with stop-over in Doha for just $422 for a 9hr 05min one.

Are $398 or 48.5% premium worth the privilege?

KB · July 5th, 2009, 01:08 PM

Gulf and Qatar are amongst the cheapest airlines for international travel (in that region). Emirates, Singapore Airlines ,etc are expensive.

ddes · July 5th, 2009, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KB

Gulf and Qatar are amongst the cheapest airlines for international travel (in that region). Emirates, Singapore Airlines ,etc are expensive.

In the current state of the economy, that no longer holds. Singapore Airlines, Emirates and many other airlines have joined in slashing ticket prices to prices we'd have never thought they'd offer.

***AltinD*** · July 7th, 2009, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AltinD

I can fly non-stop DXB - BKK with EK's A380 for $820 for a 6hr 20min flight, or I can fly Qatar Airways (probably a A340) with stop-over in Doha for just $422 for a 9hr 05min one.

Are $398 or 48.5% premium worth the privilege?

So, does anyone think that a 48.5% premium in price is worth a 50% less travel time and flying the A380 over a "regular" A340 or A330? I have to decide ...

StanleyJ · July 7th, 2009, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AltinD

I can fly non-stop DXB - BKK with EK's A380 for $820 for a 6hr 20min flight, or I can fly Qatar Airways (probably a A340) with stop-over in Doha for just $422 for a 9hr 05min one.

Are $398 or 48.5% premium worth the privilege?

They obviously don't teach Maths properly any more... the price premium is 94.3%. :P

That said, I'd still go for the A380 (having done so for LHR-SIN)... inaugural flight too.

***AltinD*** · July 8th, 2009, 09:53 AM

I completed my math learning circle (any kind of math) ... let me see: 3rd year of Uni, back in 1993.

RafflesCity · July 9th, 2009, 06:11 AM

SIA flies A380 to Hong Kong

9 Jul 09

THE economic downturn did not stop more than 450 people from getting on the inaugural Singapore Airlines Airbus 380 flight to Hong Kong on Thursday morning.

SQ856 which departed from Changi Airport's Terminal 3 at 9.50am is scheduled to touch down at 1.30pm.

Hong Kong is the fifth destination to be served by SIA's fleet of nine A380s - the biggest commercial aircraft every built.

The Singapore carrier which became the first to operate the aircraft in October 2007, also flies it to Sydney, London, Tokyo and Paris.

To date, SIA has flown more than 1.4 million people on its fleet of A380s, which have clocked more than 35,000 flying hours on more than 4,000 flights.

The airline has 10 more A380s on order.

In its statement on Wednesday, SIA said the aircraft has proven exceptionally popular with customers, with strong loads on all the routes it serves.

Executive vice-president for marketing and the regions, Huang Cheng Eng said: 'The A380 is the crown jewel in Singapore Airlines' young and modern fleet, and we are proud to be able to introduce this wonderful aircraft on one of the most important routes in our network. We are delighted that our customers have come to embrace the Singapore Airlines A380 and its industry-leading cabin products.'

SIA's A380 is configured to carry 471 passengers in three classes.

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_400898.html

juzzy · July 9th, 2009, 11:58 AM

Airfrance in full livery...

PortoNuts · July 9th, 2009, 12:03 PM

When is Air France expected to get its first A380? I suppose it'll be really soon.

Dinivan · July 9th, 2009, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AltinD

I can fly non-stop DXB - BKK with EK's A380 for $820 for a 6hr 20min flight, or I can fly Qatar Airways (probably a A340) with stop-over in Doha for just $422 for a 9hr 05min one.

Are $398 or 48.5% premium worth the privilege?

It depends on how much income you have

I wouldn't mind paying the premium, mostly because you'd save almost 3 hours, cos the A340 is also a great plane and very comfortable so unless it's of especial interest for you to fly in the A380 I guess it wouldn't make much difference

***AltinD*** · July 10th, 2009, 05:27 PM

I discovered that Qatar Airways has also a special non-refundable fare of just $200. I guess the chances of me flying the A380 are ...

Misscoke · July 11th, 2009, 05:07 AM

THAI stuck with A380s

Cancellation penalties could reach $700m
By: BOONSONG KOSITCHOTETHANA
Published: 11 Jul 2009 at 12:00 AM
Newspaper section: Business

Thai Airways International (THAI) has no option but to keep its order for six Airbus 380 megajets, because cancelling could have huge legal and financial consequences.

"The best option available for us is to delay taking delivery of those A380s," Wallop Bhukkanasut, the chairman of THAI's executive board, said last night.

The flag carrier had earlier sought to terminate the A380 contract or change to another future Airbus model, the A350-1000, as it had come to believe the world's largest commercial aircraft would not be economical to operate.

In the recent negotiations with the European planemaker, Airbus has ruled out those changes and THAI itself has come to realise that the cancellation will result in a legal battle that would have a significant impact on THAI and the image of the country as a whole, something the airline wants to avoid, according to Mr Wallop.

The cancellation would expose the airline to US$700 million in penalty costs - $300 million in pre-payment for airframes and $400 million for contracts already committed.

"Several contracts involved in the A380s are restricted with absolutely no room for change," Mr Wallop told reporters after the airline's board meeting.

THAI is now proposing that the delivery of its first three A380s, each costing $300 million, be put off to 2012 and the remaining three in 2013.

The airline has been contracted to take delivery of the jets in two lots, in October 2010 and June 2011.

"In 2012, global economic conditions should be in much better shape, and so will traffic volume. By then, THAI's cash flow problem should have been resolved and the economic environment improved," he said.

THAI will continue to negotiate with Airbus on details of the new proposal but it wants the company to cap the cost escalation in order to minimise the financial impact, he added.

The airline will also reconsider how the aircraft could be deployed, he noted.

THAI had earlier planned to fly the A380s on its long-haul routes, such as Bangkok to London, Paris and Frankfurt.

Airbus has scaled back production of the A380 this year as customers resist taking large planes because of the global travel slump.

THAI is seeking to cut costs after posting a net loss of 21.3 billion baht, its first in its history, in 2008. It earned 7.8 billion in profit in the first quarter this year, mainly on currency gains.

Mr Wallop acknowledged that the chance of getting the A350-1000 early in the event of a change from the A380 was slim as there was a huge order backlog for the aircraft, for which deliveries are not expected until 2018.

Oasis-Bangkok · July 11th, 2009, 08:19 AM

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Oasis-Bangkok · July 11th, 2009, 08:22 AM

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Singapore Airlines A380 first to Paris

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*hkskyline* Hong Kong Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 71,053 Likes (Received): 842	BA Cuts Capacity, Delays Aircraft; Cuts CapEx 3 July 2009 LONDON (Dow Jones)--U.K. flag carrier British Airways PLC (BAY.LN) Friday reported another month of annual declines in passenger traffic, forcing the company to reduce summer and winter capacity further, and adding it expects delays in A380 aircraft deliveries and that it plans to shed the equivalent of up to 3,700 jobs this financial year. The retrenchment will lead to a 20% cut in BA's spending plans this year, to GBP580 million for the financial year to end-March 2010 from an original target of GBP725 million. The airline said it will reduce capacity from April to October by 3.5%, compared with the planned 2.5%, and will cut its winter schedule by 5%, originally planned as a 4% reduction. In addition, it said it expects a five-month delay in the delivery of its first six Airbus A380 aircraft, with first delivery still due 2012. The delivery of the remaining six A380s will be delayed by two years, arriving in 2016. George Stinnes, BA's treasurer and head of investor relations, decline to comment whether it would take a hit on having to renegotiate these deliveries. But a BA spokeswoman insisted the carrier remains committed to its A380 aircraft. A spokesman for Airbus in Paris said first delivery of the aircraft to BA remains unchanged and is scheduled for the first half of 2012. He added: "We're in constant contact with all our customers to meet and anticipate their fleet requirements and this is part and parcel of proactively managing the airbus order book." British Airways also said it will ground its remaining three mainline Boeing 757 aircraft in summer 2010 and a further three Boeing 747-400s in winter 2010. The carrier is facing a tough time as it tries to position itself efficiently in response to reduced demand for travel during the recession. Traffic measured in revenue passenger kilometers, or RPKs, in June fell 3.8% from a year earlier to 9.93 billion RPKs, with total passenger numbers down 4.9% at 2.9 million. Premium traffic dropped 14.9% on the year, with non-premium traffic off by 1.3%, BA said. A 1.7% cut in capacity, measured as available seat kilometers, still wasn't enough to satisfy waning demand. BA's passenger load factor, an indicator of how many seats an airline fills with paying passengers, fell 1.8 percentage points to 79.6%. BA said on an underlying basis both premium and non-premium volumes and seat factors have now been stable for more than three months. Separately, Ryanair Holding PLC (RYA.DB) said it carried 13% more passengers in June at 5.8 million, compared to the 5.2 million carried last year. Over the rolling 12 months, Ryanair carried a total 60.2 million, the highest number in its history. June load factor was up one percentage point at 85%. Stinnes said talks with unions will continue, despite the fact the carrier failed to turn up for talks organized by the Unite and GMB worker unions Wednesday. He said both sides remain committed to finding a solution, but declined to comment further on what points the two sides may be at loggerheads over. __________________ Hong Kong Photo Gallery - Click Here for the Hong Kong Galleries World Photo Gallery - \| New York \| London \| Egypt \| Dubai \| Shanghai \| Xian \| Tokyo \| Kyoto \| Prague Beijing, Seoul, Taipei, Mumbai, Iceland, Sydney, Rocky Mountains, Toronto, and much more!

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*AltinD* The Modecator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tiranë / DUBAI / Vienna Posts: 29,801 Likes (Received): 562	I can fly non-stop DXB - BKK with EK's A380 for $820 for a 6hr 20min flight, or I can fly Qatar Airways (probably a A340) with stop-over in Doha for just $422 for a 9hr 05min one. Are $398 or 48.5% premium worth the privilege? __________________ I am the eye in the sky, Looking at you I can read your mind I am the maker of rules, Dealing with fools I can cheat you blind.

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RafflesCity By Spirit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S I N G A P O R E Posts: 26,215 Likes (Received): 2	SIA flies A380 to Hong Kong 9 Jul 09 THE economic downturn did not stop more than 450 people from getting on the inaugural Singapore Airlines Airbus 380 flight to Hong Kong on Thursday morning. SQ856 which departed from Changi Airport's Terminal 3 at 9.50am is scheduled to touch down at 1.30pm. Hong Kong is the fifth destination to be served by SIA's fleet of nine A380s - the biggest commercial aircraft every built. The Singapore carrier which became the first to operate the aircraft in October 2007, also flies it to Sydney, London, Tokyo and Paris. To date, SIA has flown more than 1.4 million people on its fleet of A380s, which have clocked more than 35,000 flying hours on more than 4,000 flights. The airline has 10 more A380s on order. In its statement on Wednesday, SIA said the aircraft has proven exceptionally popular with customers, with strong loads on all the routes it serves. Executive vice-president for marketing and the regions, Huang Cheng Eng said: 'The A380 is the crown jewel in Singapore Airlines' young and modern fleet, and we are proud to be able to introduce this wonderful aircraft on one of the most important routes in our network. We are delighted that our customers have come to embrace the Singapore Airlines A380 and its industry-leading cabin products.' SIA's A380 is configured to carry 471 passengers in three classes. http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_400898.html

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July 10th, 2009, 05:27 PM	#177
*AltinD* The Modecator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tiranë / DUBAI / Vienna Posts: 29,801 Likes (Received): 562	I discovered that Qatar Airways has also a special non-refundable fare of just $200. I guess the chances of me flying the A380 are ... __________________ I am the eye in the sky, Looking at you I can read your mind I am the maker of rules, Dealing with fools I can cheat you blind.

July 11th, 2009, 05:07 AM	#178
Misscoke Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 47 Likes (Received): 0	THAI stuck with A380s THAI stuck with A380s Cancellation penalties could reach $700m By: BOONSONG KOSITCHOTETHANA Published: 11 Jul 2009 at 12:00 AM Newspaper section: Business Thai Airways International (THAI) has no option but to keep its order for six Airbus 380 megajets, because cancelling could have huge legal and financial consequences. "The best option available for us is to delay taking delivery of those A380s," Wallop Bhukkanasut, the chairman of THAI's executive board, said last night. The flag carrier had earlier sought to terminate the A380 contract or change to another future Airbus model, the A350-1000, as it had come to believe the world's largest commercial aircraft would not be economical to operate. In the recent negotiations with the European planemaker, Airbus has ruled out those changes and THAI itself has come to realise that the cancellation will result in a legal battle that would have a significant impact on THAI and the image of the country as a whole, something the airline wants to avoid, according to Mr Wallop. The cancellation would expose the airline to US$700 million in penalty costs - $300 million in pre-payment for airframes and $400 million for contracts already committed. "Several contracts involved in the A380s are restricted with absolutely no room for change," Mr Wallop told reporters after the airline's board meeting. THAI is now proposing that the delivery of its first three A380s, each costing $300 million, be put off to 2012 and the remaining three in 2013. The airline has been contracted to take delivery of the jets in two lots, in October 2010 and June 2011. "In 2012, global economic conditions should be in much better shape, and so will traffic volume. By then, THAI's cash flow problem should have been resolved and the economic environment improved," he said. THAI will continue to negotiate with Airbus on details of the new proposal but it wants the company to cap the cost escalation in order to minimise the financial impact, he added. The airline will also reconsider how the aircraft could be deployed, he noted. THAI had earlier planned to fly the A380s on its long-haul routes, such as Bangkok to London, Paris and Frankfurt. Airbus has scaled back production of the A380 this year as customers resist taking large planes because of the global travel slump. THAI is seeking to cut costs after posting a net loss of 21.3 billion baht, its first in its history, in 2008. It earned 7.8 billion in profit in the first quarter this year, mainly on currency gains. Mr Wallop acknowledged that the chance of getting the A350-1000 early in the event of a change from the A380 was slim as there was a huge order backlog for the aircraft, for which deliveries are not expected until 2018.

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