Convoy's Wharf | Lewisham | 116m/91m/72m | 40/32/26fl | App

***wjfox*** · April 26th, 2009, 02:15 PM

Just updating the London summary and I notice we don't have a thread for these. A trio of residential towers in Deptford, just south of the Isle of Dogs. Architect is Richard Rogers. The AOD height of the tallest one is 148m.

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mulattokid · April 26th, 2009, 02:43 PM

This s a very old approved project now isnt it? Look at the renders of CW..there is no Pan P etc.

Newcastle Guy · April 26th, 2009, 02:52 PM

I love this proposal, but I can't see it being built after such a long time. And certainly not now. The developers missed their chance.

El_Greco · April 26th, 2009, 04:59 PM

Im sure we have a thread for these - I remember having a discussion about this project.Its not happening because the site is safeguarded wharf or something.

Officer Dibble · April 26th, 2009, 05:41 PM

We've discussed Convoy's Wharf quite a bit on the SE London thread, and have seen all those renders there - but if it's going ahead then it certainly deserves its own thread.

Brightonboi · April 26th, 2009, 08:21 PM

I really like these towers i hope they do go ahead

DarJoLe · April 26th, 2009, 09:23 PM

Didn't they get ditched because EH said they were unacceptable in the view of Tower Bridge from London Bridge?

london lad · April 26th, 2009, 10:49 PM

Im pretty sure this got outline permission although im sure EH probably weren't happy with them.

Hutchison Whampoa are the developers but not sure whats happening with it now. As OD says info has been posted in the SE thread.

Will probably be a rather short thread for a good few years yet.

bazzup · April 27th, 2009, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by london lad

Im pretty sure this got outline permission although im sure EH probably weren't happy with them.

Hutchison Whampoa are the developers but not sure whats happening with it now. As OD says info has been posted in the SE thread.

Will probably be a rather short thread for a good few years yet.

This was called in by the GLA, who are reviewing the protected status of "working" wharves. I believe it's still considering the matter. Ho hum.

The Sage · April 27th, 2009, 03:57 PM

Very stylish.

citybus · April 27th, 2009, 04:33 PM

Is that a tram I see in the first pic. Surely the DLR isnt on the ground through this site?

Nightjar · July 7th, 2009, 12:37 PM

Oh my God - I agree with The Sage!

El_Greco · July 7th, 2009, 05:02 PM

And I hoped for some good news but instead I got a pointless post.....

Yorkshire Boy · July 7th, 2009, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El_Greco

And I hoped for some good news but instead I got a pointless post.....

Shame on you

DarJoLe · July 7th, 2009, 05:26 PM

A gucci ghetto housing development designed by one architect in a modern style? I wonder if Charlie will stick his oar in this one.

potto · July 7th, 2009, 05:41 PM

it would look good in Chelsea actually.

london lad · November 6th, 2009, 11:19 AM

Good & bad news.

Good- Looks like they developers want to get cracking
Bad- Rogers dropped and new scheme to go in.

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Mothballed £700m Deptford housing scheme on track
Building.co.uk
06 November 2009

Plans for the £700m 3,500-home Convoys Wharf scheme in Deptford, south-east London, which floundered during the downturn, are back on track, as its new developer prepares to submit revised plans this month

Chinese corporation Hutchison Whampoa, which bought the 16ha site from News International in 2008, will make only minor amendments to the original 2005 masterplan by Richard Rogers Partnership. One of the biggest developments in the Thames Gateway, the plan included three towers of between 26 and 40 storeys, nearly 338,000m2 of residential development, 73,000m2 of offices and 7,000m2 of retail. The revised proposal will need to be approved by the mayor of London.

The Chinese firm, which has its roots in the dockyards of 19th-century Hong Kong, will start consulting with local residents over the next few weeks.

The new developer has brought in Aedas to replace Rogers’ practice – now known as Rogers Stirk Harbour + Partners – as the architect.

Mace and Hornagold & Hills were rumoured to be in the running to project manage Convoys Wharf in 2007 before the scheme was mothballed. Other consultants on the project were Buro Happold, Faithful + Gould, Bell Fisher and Montagu Evans.

Raymond Chow, managing director of Hutchinson Whampoa’s property group, said he was hugely excited by the submission. A spokesperson said it hoped to get back on site as soon as the planning process allowed.

The brownfield land was originally used by News International to receive imported paper. It is on the site of a former royal dockyard used to build ships for King Henry VIII’s navy.

delores · November 6th, 2009, 11:26 AM

oh dear. Aedas? cheap basically.

***SE9*** · November 25th, 2009, 05:56 PM

Public exhibition for Convoys Wharf development plans
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/47...lopment_plans/
Wednesday 25th November 2009

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By Dan Keel

A PUBLIC exhibition is to be held on proposals for a new development featuring 3,500 new houses and 4,600 sq m of restaurants and bars.

Residents are invited to the Convoys Wharf site in New Kings Street, Deptford, from 10am to 4pm on December 5, with a further meeting taking place on December 8 from 2pm to 8pm.

People will get the chance to quiz developers Hutchison Whampoa on their £700m plans for the wharf site which include around 26,300 sq m of office space, 23,500 sq m for leisure activities and 6,300 sq m for new shops.

The new development is expected to create 1,000 new construction jobs and a further 2,000 new jobs when the site is up and running.

Managing director of the property group, Raymond Chow, said: “This is a hugely exciting project for Lewisham and the wider Thames Gateway area.

"We are looking forward to working with Lewisham Council, the Greater London Authority, and the local community to understand their aspirations for Convoys Wharf and how we can create a fantastic new future for this historic London location.

”I would encourage everyone in the local community to come along and view the proposals and talk to members of the development team.”

Lewisham Council granted outline planning permission to the site's previous owners, newspaper publisher News International, for similar proposals in 2005.

Hutchison Whampoa has since bought the site and is considering some changes to the application which it plans to submit to the council in the coming months.

Convoys Wharf was the first ever Royal Dockyard, established by Henry VIII in 1513 to build ships for the Royal Navy.

In 1923 a director of the News of the World newspaper bought the site and began to import paper.

Eventually the site and the newspaper came into the ownership of News International.

Gherkin · November 25th, 2009, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by delores

oh dear. Aedas? cheap basically.

Aedas are a pretty decent architecture firm, I've been trying to get work exp. with them for a while now.

The quality of a project like this is usually completely reliant on the size of the budget. It's a pity the old scheme was dropped - I hope Aedas copy it!

April 26th, 2009, 02:15 PM	#1
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April 26th, 2009, 09:23 PM	#7
DarJoLe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 15,663 Likes (Received): 394	Didn't they get ditched because EH said they were unacceptable in the view of Tower Bridge from London Bridge? __________________ "I can quite confidently and with pride say that if everything goes to plan London 2012 will be the best Olympic Games and will surpass Barcelona and Sydney in terms of atmosphere, style and achievement. And not just about the sport. The whole city and its people will come alive and want to be a part of this. It just feels right." DarJoLe, May 19th 2006.

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Newcastle Guy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 8,955 Likes (Received): 18	I love this proposal, but I can't see it being built after such a long time. And certainly not now. The developers missed their chance.

April 26th, 2009, 08:21 PM	#6
Brightonboi Rule Britannia ! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK - EU Posts: 864 Likes (Received): 0	I really like these towers i hope they do go ahead

April 26th, 2009, 10:49 PM	#8
london lad Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London Posts: 8,155 Likes (Received): 45	Im pretty sure this got outline permission although im sure EH probably weren't happy with them. Hutchison Whampoa are the developers but not sure whats happening with it now. As OD says info has been posted in the SE thread. Will probably be a rather short thread for a good few years yet.

April 27th, 2009, 03:57 PM	#10
The Sage I want my LBT Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London Posts: 1,562 Likes (Received): 0	Very stylish.

April 27th, 2009, 04:33 PM	#11
citybus Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,053 Likes (Received): 15	Is that a tram I see in the first pic. Surely the DLR isnt on the ground through this site?

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Nightjar Bird Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Under a hedge Posts: 13,773 Likes (Received): 247	Oh my God - I agree with The Sage!

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El_Greco I Like Palm Trees Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 16,753 Likes (Received): 262	And I hoped for some good news but instead I got a pointless post..... __________________ My Photos : Lisbon\|Madrid\|Rome\|Naples\|London\|Rotterdam\|Fes

July 7th, 2009, 05:26 PM	#15
DarJoLe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 15,663 Likes (Received): 394	A gucci ghetto housing development designed by one architect in a modern style? I wonder if Charlie will stick his oar in this one. __________________ "I can quite confidently and with pride say that if everything goes to plan London 2012 will be the best Olympic Games and will surpass Barcelona and Sydney in terms of atmosphere, style and achievement. And not just about the sport. The whole city and its people will come alive and want to be a part of this. It just feels right." DarJoLe, May 19th 2006.

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potto Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 13,495 Likes (Received): 249	it would look good in Chelsea actually.

November 6th, 2009, 11:19 AM	#17
london lad Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London Posts: 8,155 Likes (Received): 45	Good & bad news. Good- Looks like they developers want to get cracking Bad- Rogers dropped and new scheme to go in. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mothballed £700m Deptford housing scheme on track Building.co.uk 06 November 2009 Plans for the £700m 3,500-home Convoys Wharf scheme in Deptford, south-east London, which floundered during the downturn, are back on track, as its new developer prepares to submit revised plans this month Chinese corporation Hutchison Whampoa, which bought the 16ha site from News International in 2008, will make only minor amendments to the original 2005 masterplan by Richard Rogers Partnership. One of the biggest developments in the Thames Gateway, the plan included three towers of between 26 and 40 storeys, nearly 338,000m2 of residential development, 73,000m2 of offices and 7,000m2 of retail. The revised proposal will need to be approved by the mayor of London. The Chinese firm, which has its roots in the dockyards of 19th-century Hong Kong, will start consulting with local residents over the next few weeks. The new developer has brought in Aedas to replace Rogers’ practice – now known as Rogers Stirk Harbour + Partners – as the architect. Mace and Hornagold & Hills were rumoured to be in the running to project manage Convoys Wharf in 2007 before the scheme was mothballed. Other consultants on the project were Buro Happold, Faithful + Gould, Bell Fisher and Montagu Evans. Raymond Chow, managing director of Hutchinson Whampoa’s property group, said he was hugely excited by the submission. A spokesperson said it hoped to get back on site as soon as the planning process allowed. The brownfield land was originally used by News International to receive imported paper. It is on the site of a former royal dockyard used to build ships for King Henry VIII’s navy.

November 6th, 2009, 11:26 AM	#18
delores Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,562 Likes (Received): 24	oh dear. Aedas? cheap basically.

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