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Old October 6th, 2009, 11:02 AM   #21
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... the trains are there only to compete with bus lines not with planes i think..
Ah, good point. I guess part of this discussion is semantic: HS rail versus a fast-transit system. (There was a similar confusion about the South African Gautrain with a lot of SA people getting offended that the foreigners didn't recognise their new HS train as such... )

I guess the attractiveness of airport links depends on the alternatives. In Norther Europe seem to have latched on to one of these little "fetichist" threshold values: 20 minutes. Whenever a new link is planned, this number is on the minds of everyone involved as well as in the headlines of the newspapers. Something like "OMG, if we don't bring the travel time down to 20 minutes then it won't be attractive enough..." It really silly, when you think of it, because with the traffic jams to and from airports even a slightly slower train would win a lot of devotees. I think it began with Stockholm and Oslo competing over the travel times on their links to Arlanda and Gardemoen airports. They both brought them down to 20 minutes and since that day it has been the magic limit everyone strives to meet.

In Paris it's turning a bit silly in the opposite direction, because the authorities have thrown up the "20 minutes" as the target of their nascent "CDG Express" from Gare de l'Est to the airport. Only... here the distrance from the railway station to the airport is only 24 km, so 20 minutes is actually distinctly unambitious. Some "express"...
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Old June 29th, 2010, 04:56 AM   #22
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Pangilinan to pour billions in Pampanga projects
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CLARK FREEPORT — Manuel V. Pangilinan, chair of telecommunications giant Philippine Long Distance Telephone Co. (PLDT), plans to invest billions of pesos in tourism and transportation-related projects in Pampanga.

Vice Governor Joseller Guiao disclosed this last week during the 30th general membership meeting and induction of new members of the Pampanga Chamber of Commerce and Industry (PamCham) at the Holiday Inn here.

“Very recently, President Macapagal-Arroyo, Governor (Lilia) Pineda and myself were with MVP (Pangilinan’s acronym) and he revealed that he plans to build a tourist destination—a water theme park like the one in Camarines Sur—along the Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway exit in Floridablanca where both foreign and local tourists can indulge in swimming, wakeboarding, boating and other activities,” Guiao said.

Guiao said Pangilinan was also designing a dedicated railway system that would link the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport and Metro Manila.

He said the railway system may be put up at the middle portion of the 84-km North Luzon Expressway (NLEx), which is being operated and managed by the Manila North Tollways Corp. (MNTC).


MNTC is controlled by Pangilinan’s Metro Pacific Investment Corp.

In their meeting, Guiao said Pangilinan had made known his intention to bag the construction and management contract for a new DMIA terminal in partnership with San Miguel Corp. president Ramon Ang.

Guiao said the high speed railway system would complement the terminal project at the airport here.

Earlier, the MNTC bagged the contract to maintain and operate the 94-kilometer long Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway. It also operates the 8-km Subic Tipo Road that connects SCTEx to the Subic Bay Freeport.
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Old July 3rd, 2010, 06:35 PM   #23
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I think The Islands nation of Philippines with a few of populations. I think it is hard to support a High Speed railway to profit.

Approx. 350Km Taiwan High Speed Rail,serviced over 10 million people, recorded with hugh loss so far.

On the other way, High-speed jet boat service and air services is morely likely to support Philippines.
I don't think 90 million Filipinos is few.
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Old July 7th, 2010, 11:18 AM   #24
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P6.97-billion Clark-MM railway eyed
By MARK ANTHONY N. MANUEL
July 6, 2010, 3:24pm

ANGELES CITY — A $150-million (P6.97-billion) investment is being eyed for the construction of a state-of-the-art passenger terminal and high-speed train that will link the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) in Clark and Metro Manila.

The concept of a high-speed railway between DMIA in Clark, Pampanga and Metro Manila came from Metro Pacific Investments Corp. (MPIC) big boss Manuel V. Pangilinan, said Vice Governor Joseller Guiao.

Guiao spilled the beans on the ambitious P6.97-billion project as he spoke before the recent meeting of the Pampanga Chamber of Commerce and Industry (Pamcham).

The proposed terminal is estimated to accommodate some 3 million to 7 million passengers annually. It is also expected to be one that can service long-haul commercial airlines.

“The plan is to construct the new railway between the lanes of the North Luzon Expressway (NLEx).

However, the proposal to construct it parallel to the railway was scrapped due to some technical problems,” Guiao said.

The NLEx would be the obvious route of the planned railway, given that MPIC is behind Metro Pacific Tollways Corp. which manages the NLEx.

Guiao said the railways project is expected to be forged through Pangilinan’s Landco Pacific Corporation (Landco).

“Metro Pacific Investments Corp. has already teamed up with the San Miguel Corporation to finance the multi-million dollar project inside our (DMIA) airport, although further details have not yet been released,” said Clark International Airport Corp. (CIAC) President Victor Jose Luciano.

Earlier, Pacific Avia Group Inc., (PAGI), a private sector company also proposed a P3-billion Terminal 2 project inside the airport in 2009.

“MVP (Manny V. Pangilinan) is a Kapampangan himself that’s probably the reason why he wants to help the province through investments,” Guaio said.

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Old July 8th, 2010, 02:34 AM   #25
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P6.97-billion Clark-MM railway eyed
By MARK ANTHONY N. MANUEL
July 6, 2010, 3:24pm

ANGELES CITY — A $150-million (P6.97-billion) investment is being eyed for the construction of a state-of-the-art passenger terminal and high-speed train that will link the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) in Clark and Metro Manila.

The concept of a high-speed railway between DMIA in Clark, Pampanga and Metro Manila came from Metro Pacific Investments Corp. (MPIC) big boss Manuel V. Pangilinan, said Vice Governor Joseller Guiao.

Guiao spilled the beans on the ambitious P6.97-billion project as he spoke before the recent meeting of the Pampanga Chamber of Commerce and Industry (Pamcham).

The proposed terminal is estimated to accommodate some 3 million to 7 million passengers annually. It is also expected to be one that can service long-haul commercial airlines.

“The plan is to construct the new railway between the lanes of the North Luzon Expressway (NLEx).

However, the proposal to construct it parallel to the railway was scrapped due to some technical problems,” Guiao said.

The NLEx would be the obvious route of the planned railway, given that MPIC is behind Metro Pacific Tollways Corp. which manages the NLEx.

Guiao said the railways project is expected to be forged through Pangilinan’s Landco Pacific Corporation (Landco).

“Metro Pacific Investments Corp. has already teamed up with the San Miguel Corporation to finance the multi-million dollar project inside our (DMIA) airport, although further details have not yet been released,” said Clark International Airport Corp. (CIAC) President Victor Jose Luciano.

Earlier, Pacific Avia Group Inc., (PAGI), a private sector company also proposed a P3-billion Terminal 2 project inside the airport in 2009.

“MVP (Manny V. Pangilinan) is a Kapampangan himself that’s probably the reason why he wants to help the province through investments,” Guaio said.

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Old July 8th, 2010, 01:39 PM   #26
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this is the right road & stations!








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Old July 8th, 2010, 04:08 PM   #27
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These will be waiting for the Philippine economy and politics, this
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Old August 4th, 2010, 09:18 AM   #28
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MPIC eyes Clark-Makati express train
By Mary Ann LL. Reyes (The Philippine Star) Updated August 04, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (3)


MANILA, Philippines - Metro Pacific Investments Corp. (MPIC) is looking at undertaking another multi-billion peso infrastructure project – an airport express train service that will run from the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) in Clark, Pampanga to Sen. Gil Puyat Ave. (formerly Buendia Avenue) in Makati City.

In an interview, MPIC chairman Manuel V. Pangilinan said while it may take some time before the project takes off, he emphasized that an airport express service is needed if Clark airport wants to attract more foreign carriers.

“The Philippines is the only country which still does not have an airport express service,” he stressed.

MPIC is currently in talks with San Miguel Corp. (SMC) on the possibility of joining a Filipino-Korean consortium which earlier made an unsolicited proposal to construct a $177-million (more than P8 billion) new terminal at the DMIA.

Both Pangilinan and SMC president and CEO Ramon Ang have separately confirmed to The STAR that they have already agreed in principle to team up in the undertaking.

Pangilinan told The STAR that the airport express project can be complementary to the P17-billion connector road project that will be undertaken by MPIC’s wholly-owned subsidiary Metro Pacific Tollways Corp. (MPTC). The 13.2-kilometer elevated connector road project will run along the Philippine National Railway (PNR) tracks within the Manila central business district, from the end of North Luzon Expressway (NLEX) at C3 to the beginning of Skyway 1 at Buendia and is projected to start in 2012.

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“We do not know yet whether it is the connector road or the airport express railroad that will be constructed above the PNR tracks. We are thinking of three levels. On the ground will be the PNR rail system, and above it are the connector road or the airport express railroad. But the two projects will both use the PNR right-of-way,” he said.

Ang also earlier told The STAR that they have commissioned a group that includes international companies with experience in bullet trains to study the possibility of building a bullet train railway that will run from the north to the south end of Luzon. As planned, the bullet train railway will run the Laoag-Manila-Bicol route.

When asked whether MPIC is willing to undertake the airport express train project in tandem with SMC, Pangilinan said they are thinking of doing it alone or in tandem with other groups.

He pointed out that while the train project may compete in some way with the connector road project, he emphasized that what is needed is to bring in more people into Clark.
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Old August 4th, 2010, 04:50 PM   #29
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this project will just go down the drain!
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Old September 5th, 2010, 05:27 AM   #30
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just an update...:

Public-Private Coalition lists P160-billion 'ready-to-go' projects
By Iris C. Gonzales (The Philippine Star) Updated August 31, 2010 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - The Philippine Public-Private (PPP) Coalition for infrastructure projects has made a list of “ready-to-go” projects costing a total of nearly P160 billion that may be implemented by the Aquino administration immediately under its planned public and private sector partnership.

According to documents prepared by the Research, Education & Institutional, Development Foundation Inc. (REID), a member of the PPP Coalition, the government can start with four or five “ready-to-go” projects.

These include the P13.9-billion Cavite-Laguna Expressway, a second terminal of the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) in Clark, Pampanga amounting to P7.6 billion and a high-speed rail from DMIA to central business districts amounting to P138 billion. These projects have a combined cost of P159.5 billion.

The Coalition, composed of the Philippine Constructors Association, Bankers Association of the Philippines, Investment Houses Association of the Philippines and REID Foundation, made another list consisting “pipeline projects.”

These include various water projects such as Bulacan treated bulk water supply project amounting to P5.5 billion, the Marikina River basin sewer system, amounting to P7 billion and the San Juan River basin sewer system amount-ing to P14 billion and the Boracay water and sewerage system amounting to P1.1 billion.

The Coalition said the next step is for the government to approve the list of projects and to recommend to President Benigno Aquino III the creation of a PPP Infrastructure Council to review major policy issues and uncork interagency bottlenecks.

Finance Secretary Cesar Purisima has said the Aquino administration is considering proposals from multilateral agencies to set up an entity that would handle the planned multi-billion dollar infrastructure fund.

Purisima said the financing entity would be patterned after India’s Infrastructure Development Finance Co. Ltd. (IDFC).

IDFC, according to information posted on its website, is India’s leading integrated infrastructure finance player providing end-to-end infrastructure financing and project implementation services.

The idea is for the entity to handle funds that would be pooled from investors, fund managers, and other multilateral agencies to finance various infrastructure projects in the Philippines.

The fund would finance infrastructure projects under the proposed Private-Public Partnership announced by President Aquino during his State of the Nation Address last June.

The end-goal, he said, is to enable the government to put in place the necessary infrastructure that would make the country attractive to investors.

Faced with a budget deficit that is projected to hit P325 billion this year, the Aquino administration wants to use government funds mainly for social services and tap private sector help for needed infrastructure projects.
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 03:28 AM   #31
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una pa satin Vietnam..plano nila Scotland-Vietnam-Singapore..high speed rail?wow..!
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 07:51 AM   #32
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If this High speed railway become a reality to us it's seem the rolling stock is look like this one.


^ No it won't. That train is designed for speeds above 350km/h. The train you guys are seeking is simply airport express trains similar to the ones operated by Malaysia, Hong Kong, Narita, etc.
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 09:55 AM   #33
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^ No it won't. That train is designed for speeds above 350km/h. The train you guys are seeking is simply airport express trains similar to the ones operated by Malaysia, Hong Kong, Narita, etc.
there are actually two HSL proposals: the airport express and the long distance line that will travel across, basically, the whole island of Luzon.. although i'm guessing it will take another decade for the latter to break ground...

as for the AE, the goal is to have a travel time of around 30min from Manila to the airport in Clark, which is roughly 80km away... so you would need an average of at least 160km/h there i'm guessing... how fast are the ones operated by those three countries anyway??

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Old October 23rd, 2010, 01:45 PM   #34
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In Malaysia, our ERL (Airport Rail Link) runs at about 120-140km/h and our Electric Commuter Rail runs to max. speed of about 160km/h....that is still not high speed to us as the Government is still considering a KL-Singapore High Speed rail with speeds in excess of 250 km/h
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 04:42 PM   #35
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High speed railways are possible if the government will serious it they will assure all the documents needed here and the source of found and the contractors who will built it.
there's a lot of contractors from japan and china
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Old October 24th, 2010, 08:19 AM   #36
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In Malaysia, our ERL (Airport Rail Link) runs at about 120-140km/h and our Electric Commuter Rail runs to max. speed of about 160km/h....that is still not high speed to us as the Government is still considering a KL-Singapore High Speed rail with speeds in excess of 250 km/h
that's because i think the airport (KLIA) is only 50km from the city; clark is ~80km so a high speed is a must... and yes, i've seen pics of your 160kph train, really good!!

in RP, we don't have trains that regularly run beyond 100kph so any speed above that is already considered "high speed"...

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Old June 1st, 2011, 06:30 AM   #37
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they say Northrail will be completed in 2012 and expected to use High Speed Trains... I hope so..
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I don't think it would be completed next year. The review process is just way too slow.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 02:42 PM   #39
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Any updates with the NorthRail?
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Old September 6th, 2012, 12:54 PM   #40
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Splendid.. Manila to clark! sana matuloy tlga to..

I hope they should purchase "Shinkansen Trains" from japan.. kasi in the whole history wla pang Fatal Accident Record ang mga train sa kanila, Unlike TGV(in france), or even ICE(in Germany) Meron na...

pro sana magkaruon ng Extention to NorthRail And SouthRail, eh kung kaya ng budget..

hnd na ako makapghintay na magkakaruon din tayo nito at balang araw makikita ko sila on tracks.. ^-^
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