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Aylesbury £2.5bn Regeneration | Southwark | Demo + U/C
- This is not connected with the nearby Elephant & Castle redevelopment.
Aylesbury Regeneration Walworth SE17 Southwark Official Website: http://www.aylesburyregeneration.org.uk/ Southwark Council: http://www.southwark.gov.uk/yourserv...esestateregen/ Development Facts £2.5billion 70 Acres Demolition of the Aylesbury Estate Construction of 4,200 new mixed-tenure homes Construction of Phase 1 to start in Spring 2009 16th March 2009 Funding secured to construct the First Phase. Phase One has now started construction. £2million granted to improve Burgess Park. Aylesbury Estate Walworth SE17 Southwark One of the largest housing estates of its kind in Europe. (In comparison, twice the size of Glasgow's 'Red Road' projects.) The site of Tony Blair's first ever speech as Prime Minister in 1997. Some recent photos by myself ![]() ![]() ![]() Some recent photos from Flickr image hosted on flickr ![]() image hosted on flickr ![]() image hosted on flickr ![]() image hosted on flickr ![]() Phase 1a South-west corner of the estate Status: Demolition on blocks here has begun Construction: 2009-2012 ![]() ![]() Context Major regeneration projects in South East London Aylesbury Regeneration: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=859444 Elephant & Castle Regeneration: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=496579 Greenwich Peninsula Regeneration:http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=632984 Kidbrooke Regeneration: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=670786 Lewisham Regeneration: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=888804 ![]()
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What? Is that all getting demolished and re-built?
What a project!!! |
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Funny how they'd be virtually rebuilding the same thing, mind.. Fair enough, the internal space, the communal areas etc etc will all no doubt be radically different, and it'd be built of a higher quality (I'd presume) but isn't it just replacing like for like a little too much?
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The top picture only shows half the estate, as it was taken from the middle of the estate (Chiltern Block). Aylesbury is still 100% occupied though, unlike the Ferrier Estate which is half-empty.
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Hm, that pic of the end of the building looks vaguely familiar...
I wonder where I've seen it before. Ah, I know...
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This estate doesnt look particularly run down, or that different from other London areas, aside from the extra long length of the blocks. Why is it such a failure? Is it the size of the estate that is the main factor?
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I thought that. The estate is revolting but the plans are pretty much identical! A load of characterless blocks that will also look revolting.
The people that live there made it a failure. Lack of aspiration and pride. If we cant 'mend' the people mending the buildings will make no difference. Last edited by Octoman; April 29th, 2009 at 05:24 PM. |
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Well regeneration schemes tend to mix things up. Mobile affulent people move in. Councillors and police take note, services brought up to scratch. Any idiots hanging around dont have such a detrimental impact no longer is there safety in numbers, they become diluted in the area. The architecture is just a mechanism to implement this change and to fix any obviously glaring previous master plan floors like roads cutting off communities, impentetrable blocks and dead space. Gone is the old stigma. There is no particular reason why the new vision is going to fail.
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I agree with that Potto. Its a tough balancing act because drawing in too much 'new money' from outside leads to resentment from the existing residents as they are priced out of their homes and feel the character of the area change. Bring in too little and the same problems manifest themselves only in shiny new buildings.
I read somewhere that the crime and vandalism on even the most run down estate is committed by less than 5% of the residents. But the result is that the other 95% are fearful to go out leading to the desolatation we associate with these places. Any decent urban regeneration needs to deal with this 5% to be successful. Its good that they seem to be creating communal areas directly overlooked by the properties (or at least it looks that way in the sketch). That will go a long way to helping residents self police the place. Look at the old layout and the buildings just overlook roads and carparks with the communal places out of sight and out of mind. Its a huge project. Hope it works. And hope they come up with something a little bit more inspirational than rows of boxes ... |
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Its an estate of long interconnected walkways above ground, on a very large scale. The design of the blocks mean that every flat is accessible to the public; there are no key-codes on any block in the estate. It is a single estate, but it is one of an unbroken chain of estates that runs from Elephant & Castle to Peckham: Rockingham Estate - Heygate Estate - Browning Estate - Aylesbury Estate - (Burgess Park) - Gloucester Grove Estate - North Peckham Estate. Heygate, Aylesbury and the North Peckham area are being regenerated.
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I'm waiting for some of the usual people on the forum to come on here and start rambling about how it's an interesting example of brutalist, simplistic 60's architecture and should be kept or only briefly refurbished....
What an absolute hell-hole. It's looking at places like that that make me exremelty grateful I was not born into a family that had to live there. The worst kind of architecture, muddy grey concrete, souless and depressing to look at. To be honest I don't think these new plans are going to damatically alter that...although it is a start. I like the fact that they are demolishing it all, and not trying to refurb it in the usual London way of preserving shit architecture and ignoring the destruction of good buildings.
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With North Peckham, only about 1/3 remains as the rest was demolished. Curiously some of the unusally tall lift shafts have been kept (without lifts) despite the estate never being a high-rise. The blocks remaining have been refurbished and remodelled extensively. The 3rd floor walkway originally gave access to all of the flats, even those at ground level. Bridges have been removed, security doors installed and ground and first floor flats have new entrances from the ground floor. The whole estate was re-roofed in the 80's or 90's as it originally had flat roofs. North Peckham Estate taken by myself in 1998: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The Aylesbury is actually being demolished due to structural defects which were 'found' after the residents voted against the estate being transferred from Southwark Council to a housing association.
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Great shots there... Its so hard to find shots of housing estates that were demolished pre-2000 in South London. Pictures of the North Peckham Estate or Angell Town Estate before their regeneration are hard to come by. This photo by wjfox illustrates the size of Aylesbury Estate, which is outlined in white:
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L&Q starts building new homes on the Aylesbury Estate http://www.24dash.com/news/Housing/2...lesbury-Estate 12.06.09 Quote:
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I can't see the plans
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Images of Phase 1a from the Regeneration website: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() A photo I took this morning of the Phase 1a site:
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Aylesbury gets boost by sharing £1.7bn pot July 2009 http://www.southwarknews.co.uk/00,news,15647,185,00.htm Quote:
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Boost for Aylesbury Estate scheme September 2009 http://www.southlondon-today.co.uk/t...state%20scheme ![]() Quote:
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