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Old February 6th, 2010, 01:24 AM   #141
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candidate can access driving lessons in the age of 17,5. however, he cannot get valid license till age of 18.
2 years since getting licence, (young) driver has 10 km/h lower speed limits on open road (80-100-120). he mustn't drive vehicle stronger than 75kW, neither he may drive with any alcochol consumed.
there was a rule that young drivers may not drive between 23 nad 5 h (except with person older than 25 with valid driving licence), but it seems it is not valid anymore.
you get licence valid thru 80th birthday (if you don't have health restrictions).

for motorcycles - you may get licence in the age of 16, but you can drive motos up to 125ccm and 11kW.
in the age of 18 you may get licence for category A2 (motorcycles up to 35kW, power ratio up to 0,2kW/kg). after having A2 licence for 2 years you can get licence for A category (all motorcycles without limits).
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Old February 6th, 2010, 02:22 AM   #142
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The criteria of age for equipment with the driving license for the first time are determined as follows:

To have reached 14 years, for driving means of M category;
To have reached 16 years, for driving means of A1 and T category;
To have reached 18 years, for driving means of A, B1, B and C category;
To have reached 19 years, for driving means of B+E, C and C1+E category;
To have reached 20 years, for driving means of C+E category;
To have reached 21 years, for driving means of A, D1, D1+E, D and D+E category;
Criteria of experience for extension of categories are determined by the Law on Security in the Road Traffic.

http://www.rks-gov.net/en-US/Qytetar...teShoferi.aspx

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Old February 6th, 2010, 02:46 AM   #143
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For cars:

Class G1: At age 16, write a theory test to get this class. At this point, one can immediately drive with an accompanying driver with at least 4 years of experience (as a G2 or G driver). No alcohol in the blood. No driving between 0:00 and 5:00. No driving on 400-series motorways with a speed limit of above 80 km/h.

Class G2: One year after getting the G1, or 8 months if a driving course was taken, do a simple driving test (no motorway driving) to get this class. Almost no restrictions - no alcohol in the blood is the only one. Relatively new law: for drivers aged 19 and below, between the hours of 0:00 and 5:00, maximum of 1 passenger below 19 y.o. for the first 6 months, and then up to 3 such passengers until age 20 or Class G.

Class G: One year after getting the G2, do another longer driving test (including motorway driving) to get this class. Full license without restrictions.

A driver has 5 years to complete the process from G1 to G. If that doesn't happen, the license expires and one needs to reapply for the G1 and do all the tests again. There are some exceptions, such as if one gets a G2 when there is less than one year left in the 5-year period - in that case it is extended.
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Old February 6th, 2010, 03:13 AM   #144
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United States varies a LOT from state to state since the laws are up to the states as if they were their own countries.

Where I'm from in Iowa:

Age 14 - can drive a car if there is a licensed driver in the car with you. There are other specific rules, but that's the basic rule.

Age 16 - take driver's education and receive your license.


I know the laws have been a LOT more strict the past 10 years or so. I grew up in the late 90's, and basically back then I was ok to drive by the time I was 14, just had to make sure an older person with a license was in the car with me. When I turned 16 I was fully licensed and there were no special rules. I believe now there are other rules, such as at 16 you can drive, but only between like 5:00 and 0:30, etc. Then at 17 is when all rules are dropped and you're fully licensed.
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Old February 6th, 2010, 05:08 AM   #145
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In Florida, one can obtain a restricted Florida drivers license at 15. Requirements are:

Two forms of identification plus your birth certificate
Proof of your USA Social Security Number
Proof of where you live
Proof that you have taken a Traffic Law and Substance Abuse Education class
Parental consent

Then you have to take the written test on road rules and road signs, plus a vision and hearing test. If you pass you will earn your restricted license.

Driving restrictions are daylight hours only for the first three months, then no later than 10 PM. At all times you must have a licensed driver over 21 sitting in the right front seat.

At 16 you can earn your intermediate Florida driver's license. Requirements are as follows:

Must hold a restricted license for one year with no convictions for traffic offenses (that means speeding, running a red light, etc.)
Certification from your parents that you have had 50 hours of behind the wheel experience, which includes 10 hours of night driving
Driving test (I remember this very well when I got my regular license at 16: Parallel parking and having to make the quick stop from 20 mph!)

When you pass the driving test then you are issued your intermediate Florida driver's license. However, it comes with restrictions:

16 years old: Allowed to drive between 6 AM and 11 PM unless you have a licensed driver over 21 sitting in the right front seat or traveling to and from work.

17 years old: Allowed to drive between 5 AM and 1 AM unless you have a licensed driver over 21 sitting in the right front seat or traveling to and from work.

18 years old and up: No restrictions.

Here is a link to the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles web site which will give you more information: http://www.flhsmv.gov/ddl/teendriv.html#learner
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Old February 6th, 2010, 06:31 AM   #146
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The licensing system for regular cars:

Class 7 - at age 16, you can apply for a Class 7 license (aka learner's permit) which involves taking a vision test, a road sign recognition test, and a multiple choice theory test. This license allows you to drive with one passenger only who must hold a Class 5 license. You must both have a BAC level of zero. After 6 months with a Class 7 license (3 months if you've taken a driver training course) you're allowed to schedule a road test to pass to the next stage.

Class 5N - Lasts for 2 years. BAC level of zero and no driving from 0:00-5:00 unless going to work.

Class 5 - after two years you trade in your 5N for a class 5, which is the full license, and you can apply for license classes 1-4 (larger vehicles).

Class 6 (motorcycles) - age 16
Class 8 (farm tractors) - age 14

Here's the RMV webpage with more information.

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Old February 6th, 2010, 09:32 AM   #147
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Slovakia - you can drive at:
15 years - AM category
16 years - A1 and B1 category
17 years - T category (+disabled people B category)
18 years - A category (<25kW or ratio <0.16kW/kg) and B, C and subcategory C1
21 years - A category (25kW< or ratio 0.16kW/kg<), category D and subcategory D1

Categories (simply all A are bikes, B are ordinary cars, C lorries/trucks, D buses):
AM - motorcycle with engine <50 cm3 / max.speed <45kmh
A - motorcycle with engine 50< cm3 / max.speed 45kmh <
A1 - motorcycle with engine <125 cm3 / 11kW
B1 - 3-4 wheels vehicles with engine <50 cm3 / max.speed 45kmh
B - all cars under 3500kg with no more than 8 seats
C - all cars 3500kg <
C1 - all cars 3500-7500kg
D - cars with more than 8 seats
D1 - cars with more 8-16 seats
T - agricultural vehicles

majority of drivers have B category driving license valid from 18 years old (also including AM category)

I'd guess these categories are same in whole EU, cause of our european driving license

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Old February 6th, 2010, 11:07 AM   #148
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Class G: One year after getting the G2, do another longer driving test (including motorway driving) to get this class. Full license without restrictions.
What if you live in northern Ontario? A 4-day driving test to reach a motorway in the first place?
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Old February 6th, 2010, 12:30 PM   #149
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UK: Full license at 17, no restrictions after that, with the exception of NI, where you cannot drive above 60mph for a year after you get your license.
Portugal: Full license at 18, no restrictions after that. Mopeds at 14
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Old February 6th, 2010, 12:43 PM   #150
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Hungary:

"M" (moped <50cm3): 14 years
"A1" (motorbike <125cm3 and 11 kW): 16 years
"A limited" (motorbike max 25 kW and 0,16 kW/kg): 18 years
"A" (all motorbikes): 21 years
"B" (cars up to 3500 kg and 9 seats): 17 years
"C1" (vehicles between 3500 and 7500 kg): 18 years
"C" (over 3500 kg): 18 years
"D1" (bus up to 16 seats): 21 years
"D" (bus): 21 years
"E" (heavy trailer, combined with B, C1, C, D1 or D category): same age as the basic category, except for B+E which is 18 years

I think these categories are the same in Europe.

other categories:
"K": small tractor, vehicle pulled by animals
"T": agricultural vehicle with trailer, slow vehicle with trailer
"TR": trolleybus
"V": tram

You get M, K and T categories together with B.

For 2 years your licence is beginner, which means you can't pull a trailer and carry a passenger on motorbike.
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Old February 6th, 2010, 01:30 PM   #151
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I'm not sure about buses.
A licence for buses (D) is obtainable from 21 years, and only if you already have the B-licence (cars). If you want to work as a busdriver, most employers require that you have at least one year experience with licence B.
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Old February 6th, 2010, 01:48 PM   #152
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I think European countries are pretty much all the same or similar ages. It seems the US itself varies a lot between different states.
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Old February 6th, 2010, 02:13 PM   #153
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Old February 6th, 2010, 02:58 PM   #154
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In Spain it's like in almost every European country. There are two kinds of licenses.

The licencia de conducción:

14: LCM (Licencia de conducción de vehículos para personas con movilidad reducida). Basically vehicles for disabled people without passengers.

16: LVA (Licencia para vehículos agrícolas). For farming vehicles. Also LCM with passengers.


The permiso de conducción:

15: AM: Two or three-wheeled vehicles <50 cm3, four-wheeled vehicles whose max speed is <45 km/h, always <0.11 kW/kg, always without passengers until you're 18.

16: A1: Motorbikes without sidecar <125 cm3, <11 kW, <0.11 kW/kg.

18: A2: Motorbikes. Three and four-wheeled vehicles <550 kg. <35 kW, <0.2 kW/kg.

20: A: All kinds of motorbikes + AM + A1 + A2. You need to have had an A2 license for at least 2 years.

18: B: Vehicles <3,500 kg with trailers <750 kg (if the set is <3,500 kg).

18: C1: Vehicles 3,500 kg < m < 7,500 kg. You need the B first.

21: C: Vehicles >3,500 kg. You need the B first.

21: D1: 9 < number of seats < 17. You need the B first.

24: D: Trolleys and vehicles whose number of passengers is >9. You need the B first.

18/21/24: E: For trailers >750 kg.

18: BTP: For special/high priority vehicles (ambulances/police cars...), taxis, etc. You need the B first.


If you're interested, this is a list of maneuvers you need to do to pass the test made in a closed track:

http://www.dgt.es/was6/portal/conten...o_Esquemas.pdf


This sums it up. Notice that there are some differences in Spain:
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No agricultural license? You don't need one or is this a seperate license in Spain?

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Yes, the LVA is the agricultural license
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Old February 8th, 2010, 09:21 AM   #157
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http://www.csv.go.cr/educacion/licencias.html

Here is a translation:

Class A1 (50 to 90 cc):

- Minimum 13 years of age
- Authorisation from the parent or legal guardian if underage
- A 2 million Colones (about 2600 Euros or 3550 US Dollars according to current exchange rates) Insurance policy by state insurer INS, covering damages made to a third party
- Birth certificate by the civil registry
- Photo ID
- Pass the theoretical exam
- Medical certificate
- Pass the practical driver's exam

Class A2 (91 to 125 cc):

- Minimum 15 years of age
- Authorisation from the parent or legal guardian if underage
- A 2 million Colones (about 2600 Euros or 3550 US Dollars according to current exchange rates) Insurance policy by state insurer INS, covering damages made to a third party
- Birth certificate by the civil registry
- Photo ID
- Pass the theoretical exam
- Medical certificate
- Pass the practical driver's exam


Class A3 (126 to 500 cc) and A4 (501 cc and higher):

- Be 18 years old, have a citizen ID card or be an underage married person
- Pass the theoretical exam
- Medical certificate
- Pass the practical driver's exam


Class B1 (between 250 kg and 1.5 tonnes), B2 (light and heavy vehicles under 5 tonnes), B3 (all heavy vehicles except for semis) and B4 (all vehicles):

- Be 18 years old, have a citizen ID card or be an underage married person
- Pass the theoretical exam
- Medical certificate
- Pass the practical driver's exam


Class C1 (Taxi):

- Pay a public serivce security deposit for the time of validity of the licence to state insurer INS
- Pass the theoretical exam for public transportation
- Medical certificate
- Pass the practical driver's exam


Class C2 (Bus):

- Prove that you have 5 years of driving experience with B Class vehicles
- Pay a public serivce security deposit for the time of validity of the licence to state insurer INS
- Pass the theoretical exam for public transportation
- Medical certificate
- Pass the practical driver's exam


Class D1 (tractor on tyres)

- Minimum 16 years of age
- Authorisation from the parent or legal guardian if underage
- A 2 million Colones (about 2600 Euros or 3550 US Dollars according to current exchange rates) Insurance policy by state insurer INS, covering damages made to a third party
- Birth certificate by the civil registry
- Photo ID
- Letter of the company the applicant works for or from the rural police, indicating the type of machine and experience
- Pass the theoretical exam
- Medical certificate
- Pass the practical driver's exam
and provide a ticket for it

Class D2 (tractor on caterpillar track) and D3 (all agricultural and industrial vehicles):

- Be 18 years old, have a citizen ID card or be an underage married person
- Letter of the company the applicant works for or from the rural police, indicating the type of machine and experience
- Pass the theoretical exam
- Medical certificate
- Pass the practical driver's exam and provide a ticket for it

Class E1 (All multi-axle vehicles except public transportation vehicles):

- Be 18 years old, have a citizen ID card or be an underage married person
- Pass the theoretical exam for special equipment
- Medical certificate
- Pass the practical driver's exam and provide a ticket for it
- Have at least a year driving experience with vehicles of class A4 and B4

Class E2 (All multi-axle vehicles, tractors with tyres or caterpillar tracks, and vehicles under class D3):

- Be 18 years old, have a citizen ID card or be an underage married person
- Pass the theoretical exam for special equipment
- Medical certificate
- Pass the practical driver's exam and provide a ticket for it
- Have at least a year driving experience with vehicles of class A4 and B4

When issued for the first time, the licence will be valid for two years, and it requires you to pay a fee of 4000 Colones. After every renewal, the licence will be valid for five years (except for drivers who are 65 years old and hold either a class C or E licence, they can only renew those licences every two years). The five year renewal costs 10000 Colones. Temporary studen driver permits, which you can get once you have passed the theoretical test, cost 500 Colones.

When you want to apply for the tests, you'll have to pay a few sums before the callcentre accepts you as well. For the theoretical exam, you have to pay a sum of 5000 Colones to BCR (Banco de Costa Rica), then you can call the callcentre. The same before calling the callcentre prior to requesting a date for the practical exam. If you fail any of the tests, you have to wait 10 work days before re-applying for a test date, pay the 5000 Colones at the BCR, and then call the callcentre for the date (applies for theoretical and practical exams).

Foreigners who want to have a licence, holding already a valid driver's licence, need to provide a photo ID that identifies them as residents (e.g. passport with an entry stamp no older than 3 months, residency card), provide their valid driver's licence with a photocopy of it, as well as the medical certificate. They also need an authorisation from the head or vice chief of the Licence Department, or from the head of the DGEV (Road Education Department), both within the Ministry of Transportation and Public Works. If the licence is no longer valid, you'll have to make both the theoretical and the practical test.

For renewal of a foreigner's driver's licence, they need to provide a photo ID that identifies them as residents (e.g. passport with an entry stamp no older than 3 months, residency card), the licence that needs to be renewed, as well as the medical certificate. In all cases, I believe the same fees apply.
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Here it is possible to start driving lessons with 17 and take driving tests, but you can get your licence when you fill 18.

You can drive only untill 23.oo if you have under 21, or not enough driving experience, and you have to wear the P (pocetnik) sticker at the back of you car, so people can see youre a beginner.





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What if you live in northern Ontario? A 4-day driving test to reach a motorway in the first place?
Haha, excellent question! In fact, places that do not have a 400-series nearby make do with rural highways (typically 80 km/h).

Actually, it's quite funny - some people in Toronto who are afraid of the highway test book their test in a town called Orangeville and do the test there on one of the local roads (I think Highway 9).
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For cars:

Class G1: At age 16, write a theory test to get this class. At this point, one can immediately drive with an accompanying driver with at least 4 years of experience (as a G2 or G driver). No alcohol in the blood. No driving between 0:00 and 5:00. No driving on 400-series motorways with a speed limit of above 80 km/h.

Class G2: One year after getting the G1, or 8 months if a driving course was taken, do a simple driving test (no motorway driving) to get this class. Almost no restrictions - no alcohol in the blood is the only one. Relatively new law: for drivers aged 19 and below, between the hours of 0:00 and 5:00, maximum of 1 passenger below 19 y.o. for the first 6 months, and then up to 3 such passengers until age 20 or Class G.

Class G: One year after getting the G2, do another longer driving test (including motorway driving) to get this class. Full license without restrictions.

A driver has 5 years to complete the process from G1 to G. If that doesn't happen, the license expires and one needs to reapply for the G1 and do all the tests again. There are some exceptions, such as if one gets a G2 when there is less than one year left in the 5-year period - in that case it is extended.
Looks like Ontario's driving requirements are over the top. I hated this graduated licensing model. One driving test is enough and you should be able to do it quickly after your written test, so there is no need to wait for 5 years. I think it's only a cash grab by the Drive Test agency and the Ontario government. I don't think Ontario drivers are any better than before this system was implemented.
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