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Old July 6th, 2016, 03:36 AM   #3321
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Old July 6th, 2016, 08:42 PM   #3323
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Old July 6th, 2016, 09:14 PM   #3324
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nice pic! L.A. definitely needs more skyscrapers!
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Old July 6th, 2016, 11:20 PM   #3325
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Yes, bring on the skyscrapers! And whatever the hell they did to Paul Hastings (formerly Arco) Tower would have looked so much better if they had tried to blend it in more with the building structure- that blueish glass and white trim around the edges just stick out horribly.
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Old July 7th, 2016, 11:12 AM   #3326
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This overlay shows the city limits of 7 other major American cities, plus Manhattan, all fitting handily within LA's city limits:


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It's a cool map, but kind of arbitrary. LA's city proper still has a higher population density than five of those cities.
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Old July 8th, 2016, 04:20 AM   #3328
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The effect of the Great Chicago Fire of 1871 should be taken in account. That conflagration ripped the core out of what was already an extensive cityscape. The rebuilding took place concurrently with the development of the skyscraper itself and yet was required to fit within the land devastated by the fire. That is, it naturally went up, not out. LA simply went out.

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You're both a little incorrect as far as Chicago goes. That or you just aren't looking at the bigger picture.

The main reason for LA's sprawl is the fact that it had a major, long lasting boom in the midst of the automobile era, when being able to live further and further away from job centers was much easier to do. Hence why there was a massive investment in auto-oriented infrastructure such as LA's sprawling freeways, and coupled with white flight to suburban areas this gave way to heavy suburban development in the form of sprawly SFH tracts. High rise urban living was not considered desirable from the middle of the century until about the 80's, except for the uber rich.

Chicago, OTOH, had already established a dense central core earlier than LA and had a high population to necessitate building its core out to its current size. Transit was not an option like it is today, you either walked or took rail and those were the only options. LA has its share of older, densely built areas such as downtown and areas north and west (Ktown, Hollywood, Westlake, etc.), but not as in depth or concentrated as Chicago or other legacy urban cities like Boston, Philly, NYC.

I've always agreed with the sentiment that LA has the potential to become the most populated metro in the US, though. All that land area to densify, whereas NYC's only option would be to annex more land, unless they want all of Manhattan to be one long skyline of 50 story buildings from downtown to midtown. Either way, NYC will probably be top for a very very long time.

Back on topic, to clarify for another poster, you are correct in that the frame for the sail is about halfway up.
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Old July 8th, 2016, 06:43 AM   #3329
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nice pic! L.A. definitely needs more skyscrapers!
My problem with LA is that so many of the towers and other newer downtown buildings have little on the ground floors but blank walls, garage entrances, plate glass looking into grandiose lobbies holding not much of interest to passers-by and maybe some plantings. Cities I enjoy pack the ground floors of all buildings, whatever may be above, with retail or other uses of pedestrian interest.

Parts of Chicago (like the area around the Willis Tower) suffer from the same problem to be honest, but New York contrasts with these 2. That's why most people enjoy it so. It's a fun place to walk: I've walked from Mid-town to the Battery and found every foot interesting because it's almost a continuous series of shops, restaurants, banks, whatever, and almost no curb cuts for garage entrances or surface parking lots. To be fair, other parts of downtown Chicago are much like this too but I wish all of it were, and LA.
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Old July 8th, 2016, 08:02 AM   #3330
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That would have everything to do with population density. The City of Los Angeles has a density of 8,200 mile/sq while New York City is 27,000 mile/sq. Manhattan itself is 69,400.


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My problem with LA is that so many of the towers and other newer downtown buildings have little on the ground floors but blank walls, garage entrances, plate glass looking into grandiose lobbies holding not much of interest to passers-by and maybe some plantings. Cities I enjoy pack the ground floors of all buildings, whatever may be above, with retail or other uses of pedestrian interest.

Parts of Chicago (like the area around the Willis Tower) suffer from the same problem to be honest, but New York contrasts with these 2. That's why most people enjoy it so. It's a fun place to walk: I've walked from Mid-town to the Battery and found every foot interesting because it's almost a continuous series of shops, restaurants, banks, whatever, and almost no curb cuts for garage entrances or surface parking lots. To be fair, other parts of downtown Chicago are much like this too but I wish all of it were, and LA.
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Old July 9th, 2016, 10:40 PM   #3332
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I found out what's up with Paul Hastings tower..I still think they should have blended it in with the existing building better- it just sticks out.
http://girouxglass.com/blog/city-nat...ts-facade-lift
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Old July 10th, 2016, 03:25 PM   #3333
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Old July 11th, 2016, 12:55 AM   #3334
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LA towers thread?

Any threads here that give a good one-stop overview of the major towers in downtown LA? Thanks in advance.
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Old July 11th, 2016, 01:08 AM   #3335
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Any threads here that give a good one-stop overview of the major towers in downtown LA? Thanks in advance.
The most active thread about DTLA development anywhere:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...221144&page=94
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Old July 11th, 2016, 12:52 PM   #3336
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Old July 11th, 2016, 06:34 PM   #3337
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Old July 11th, 2016, 07:39 PM   #3338
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Old July 12th, 2016, 01:37 AM   #3339
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Awesome pictures folks
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Old July 12th, 2016, 02:38 AM   #3340
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Y la torre menor??
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