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Old September 22nd, 2013, 10:35 AM   #961
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Old September 22nd, 2013, 02:06 PM   #962
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Preps are in full motion, it's nice to see this one move forward
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Old September 22nd, 2013, 07:11 PM   #963
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Preps are in full motion, it's nice to see this one move forward
I'm waiting eagerly to see this finished. It will be such a great addition to the LA skyline.
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Old September 22nd, 2013, 08:12 PM   #964
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How long will it take to complete foundation and everything?
Subsequence, Our SSC Family Friend, at this Very Slow speed of just digging and No Pile Drivers or No Rebar in sight, I say IMO, at least another Year for the Foundation of this Huge 1100 Feet Tower to be Completed and could start Vertical I Hope so by the End of 2014, maybe early 2015 that's my Opinion because its a very slow start and a very deep Hole We shall see Our SSC Family Friends
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Old September 22nd, 2013, 10:10 PM   #965
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if that's the case the models proportions are off compared to the AON tower it is only maybe 900 to the roof.
The AON tower, formally known as the First Interstate Bank tower, but built as the United California Bank tower, has 63 rentable floors, and is 856' tall
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Old September 23rd, 2013, 12:38 AM   #966
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Subsequence, Our SSC Family Friend, at this Very Slow speed of just digging and No Pile Drivers or No Rebar in sight, I say IMO, at least another Year for the Foundation of this Huge 1100 Feet Tower to be Completed and could start Vertical I Hope so by the End of 2014, maybe early 2015 that's my Opinion because its a very slow start and a very deep Hole We shall see Our SSC Family Friends
It all depends on how deep the bedrock is. The foundations of 432 Park in NYC were done far quicker but iirc NYC has bedrock close to the surface
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Old September 23rd, 2013, 06:05 AM   #967
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Old September 23rd, 2013, 01:36 PM   #968
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It all depends on how deep the bedrock is. The foundations of 432 Park in NYC were done far quicker but iirc NYC has bedrock close to the surface
I see some rocks in the pit, but I don't know how deep the bedrock is. Does someone here know?
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Old September 23rd, 2013, 06:07 PM   #969
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I see some rocks in the pit, but I don't know how deep the bedrock is. Does someone here know?
Good Question Eric Offereins, Our SSC Family Friend, This could be the reason for such a long delay of digging so deep already, It Looks like they have to Dig deeper and it could take another 3 months of digging IMO before any Drilling of Pile Drivers and Rebar, IMO, its already 30 feet deep, at least 3 floors, I say the BedRock along the L.A. Basin could be almost 50 feet deep, that's my opinion , I could be wrong, But I remember " The Big Dig " Tunnel in Boston, Mass, the bedrock was dug almost 125 feet Deep below the Subway Lines !!
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It all depends on how deep the bedrock is. The foundations of 432 Park in NYC were done far quicker but iirc NYC has bedrock close to the surface
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Good Question Eric Offereins, Our SSC Family Friend, This could be the reason for such a long delay of digging so deep already, It Looks like they have to Dig deeper and it could take another 3 months of digging IMO before any Drilling of Pile Drivers and Rebar, IMO, its already 30 feet deep, at least 3 floors, I say the BedRock along the L.A. Basin could be almost 50 feet deep, that's my opinion , I could be wrong, But I remember " The Big Dig " Tunnel in Boston, Mass, the bedrock was dug almost 125 feet Deep below the Subway Lines !!
No, I don't think how deep the bedrock is matters. Few places in the world have bedrock close enough to the surface to made foundations of buildings directly on it. I have absolutely no idea how close to the surface in Los Angeles the bedrock is, but being it on a large basin, I don't think it is very close, it may easily be hundreds of meters deep, as it is on most of the earth.

They don't need bedrock in order to make the foundations of this building. Buildings like this are generally built over large piles dig in the earth (which is very compact once you go a few dozens of meters deep) this piles work with friction, that is the friction between the piles, over all its lenght and the soil that surrounds it. I higly doubt this building foundations will be on bedrock.

The large excavation you see is to make space for an equaly large parking garage along with some other services and spaces for the building.


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Looking in the Los Angeles Basin's article of wikipedia, it says the sediments in the Los Angeles Basin goes as deep as 10 km. I don't know if that's so, but having in account that Los Angeles Basin was a place were large amounts of oil were extracted (even some drills still remains in service) it's easy to infer that the sediment layer is pretty deep.
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Old September 25th, 2013, 06:43 AM   #971
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Looking in the Los Angeles Basin's article of wikipedia, it says the sediments in the Los Angeles Basin goes as deep as 10 km. I don't know if that's so, but having in account that Los Angeles Basin was a place were large amounts of oil were extracted (even some drills still remains in service) it's easy to infer that the sediment layer is pretty deep.
Well, it's clear as day and plainly obvious that they are simply going to have to dig a six mile hole.
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Old September 25th, 2013, 02:16 PM   #972
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No, I don't think how deep the bedrock is matters. Few places in the world have bedrock close enough to the surface to made foundations of buildings directly on it. I have absolutely no idea how close to the surface in Los Angeles the bedrock is, but being it on a large basin, I don't think it is very close, it may easily be hundreds of meters deep, as it is on most of the earth.

They don't need bedrock in order to make the foundations of this building. Buildings like this are generally built over large piles dig in the earth (which is very compact once you go a few dozens of meters deep) this piles work with friction, that is the friction between the piles, over all its lenght and the soil that surrounds it. I higly doubt this building foundations will be on bedrock.

The large excavation you see is to make space for an equaly large parking garage along with some other services and spaces for the building.


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Looking in the Los Angeles Basin's article of wikipedia, it says the sediments in the Los Angeles Basin goes as deep as 10 km. I don't know if that's so, but having in account that Los Angeles Basin was a place were large amounts of oil were extracted (even some drills still remains in service) it's easy to infer that the sediment layer is pretty deep.
Thanks for the info, I still have a lot to learn about construction
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Old October 1st, 2013, 06:41 AM   #973
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Old October 1st, 2013, 05:49 PM   #974
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Mojeda101, Our SSC Family Friend, The Digging keeps getting deeper, I'll bet some parts are below 100 Feet, anyone Think So ? Still No Drilling or Pile Driving or No Rebar Rods on the site as of yet, I'm guessing Still a Prep IMO, Its getting deeper each picture taken, it kind of looks like they didn't hit the bedrock in some spots, looks like all dirt.
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Old October 3rd, 2013, 02:35 AM   #975
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Love the progress, I should've stopped by to take a few pictures when I was in LA back in June, but forgot.
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Old October 3rd, 2013, 04:15 AM   #976
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Awesome! Thanks for the updates! I can't wait for this tower to rise!
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Old October 4th, 2013, 09:46 PM   #977
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Old October 4th, 2013, 09:59 PM   #978
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God, I can't wait. The only thing I can think to grip about is the squareness of the spire. Wish it was round. That's literally it, though, otherwise I think this tower is glorious. Every time I drive down the 101 towards downtown, I imagine it there and then nearly rear-end somebody because, oh shit, I've been daydreaming and not looking at the road.
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Old October 4th, 2013, 10:13 PM   #979
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Really disappointing, the roof is maybe 900 and the top floor 800 or so

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Old October 4th, 2013, 10:20 PM   #980
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