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Old December 18th, 2013, 01:49 AM   #1201
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I guess adding any type of architectural elements to the top of buildings nowadays is blasphemy because it "cheats" according to height enthusiasts.
It does seem that way unless, the architectural element is all but flawless in its integration into the building's over all design: the Ping An Finance Center, The Petronus Towers, the proposed 2 WTC tower, and Lotte World tower are examples of this. What is unpopular it the throw a pointy stick on top philosophy used on buildings like The New York Times tower, the Bank of America tower, The Trump International Hotel, and 1 WTC. This just makes it feel like the contracters, and the developer took the cheap and easy route instead of, asking the architect to create something architecturally in"SIPRE"ing.

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Old December 18th, 2013, 02:47 AM   #1202
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helipad is 1,000 feet, that's supertall
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Old December 18th, 2013, 05:08 PM   #1203
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It does seem that way unless, the architectural element is all but flawless in its integration into the building's over all design: the Ping An Finance Center, The Petronus Towers, the proposed 2 WTC tower, and Lotte World tower are examples of this. What is unpopular it the throw a pointy stick on top philosophy used on buildings like The New York Times tower, the Bank of America tower, The Trump International Hotel, and 1 WTC. This just makes it feel like the contracters, and the developer took the cheap and easy route instead of, asking the architect to create something architecturally in"SIPRE"ing.

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This so much!

And to be completely honest I think in 2013 when we already have megatalls (both standing and going up) what does it matter that a supertall is 40 meters taller with a spire that looks out of place on top of it? Like what do they actually gain? In my opinion they hardly have bragging rights or anything. The Wilshire Grand would look perfectly fine without it too. Even better actually.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 08:59 PM   #1204
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This so much!

And to be completely honest I think in 2013 when we already have megatalls (both standing and going up) what does it matter that a supertall is 40 meters taller with a spire that looks out of place on top of it? Like what do they actually gain? In my opinion they hardly have bragging rights or anything. The Wilshire Grand would look perfectly fine without it too. Even better actually.
Right on!

The "evil twin" reference is to Bof A in NY. The building looks better WO the spire, as does Bof A, WTC1 and many others where the "spire" looks remarkably like a broadcast antennae.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 09:03 PM   #1205
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I agree with the posts regarding the spires. According to spire-supporters, I could attach a 4,000 foot "spire" that was "designed to go with the building" to my 25 foot house and have it be the tallest building in the world. Sorry folks, calling BS on spire-cheating; roof height all the way.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 09:53 PM   #1206
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Agreed, roof height is the fairest measurement. However, even though this building has a spire on it, the roof is enclosed to roughly 1000 ft., correct? As long as it is a legitimate supertall to the roof, I don't really mind the spire.

Also, I have seen BOA, and it really doesn't look much like this.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 10:49 PM   #1207
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Also, I have seen BOA, and it really doesn't look much like this.
Some of you are so literal. "Twins" from the standpoint that BofA is also a nice looking building but inexplicably has a spike sticking out the top that counts in the measurement.
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Old December 22nd, 2013, 11:17 AM   #1208
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Old December 30th, 2013, 03:15 AM   #1209
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Old December 30th, 2013, 08:17 PM   #1210
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Remember, the building does need to be "earth-quake proof", so the precautions taken during foundation are important.
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Old December 30th, 2013, 08:30 PM   #1211
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Still going up already. Things go fast here.
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Old December 30th, 2013, 09:36 PM   #1212
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Nice progress - thanks Mojeda!!!
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Old January 4th, 2014, 03:30 AM   #1213
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I guess adding any type of architectural elements to the top of buildings nowadays is blasphemy because it "cheats" according to height enthusiasts.

Perhaps building official heights should be measured at the floor of the highest occupyable or functioning floor.
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Old January 4th, 2014, 03:38 AM   #1214
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Perhaps building heights should be measured to the top of the, well, building.
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Old January 4th, 2014, 04:38 AM   #1215
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They posted this pic today so it's probably a week old.

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Old January 4th, 2014, 11:04 PM   #1216
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starting to fillup with rebar.

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Old January 4th, 2014, 11:21 PM   #1217
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looks to me like those columns will support a grid of plate girders and grillage.
The "columns" probably won't be columns much longer. They will fill the foundation with rebar to the level of the top of the things and pour a very think foundation pad, then use the top of the columns (embedded in that pad) to anchor the vertical members of the structural steel to come.
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Old January 4th, 2014, 11:24 PM   #1218
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I'm so glad a supertall is going up in California . . . .
2 supertalls in CA (SF's Transbay being the other).
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Old January 5th, 2014, 10:24 AM   #1219
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Old January 6th, 2014, 12:34 PM   #1220
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Brigham Yen found some pretty spectacular photos of what the building will feature. They were submitted by AC Martin to the big boys in Seoul. Apparently the spire will feature color changes similar to the Bank Tower depending on holidays or events. I love this! Check them all out on his blog! http://brighamyen.com/2014/01/06/exc...r-downtown-la/







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