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Old January 6th, 2014, 01:08 PM   #1221
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Perhaps building heights should be measured to the top of the, well, building.
Measuring spire is like cheating because the new skyscraper clearly looks shorter than US Bank but it will be considered technically taller.
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Old January 7th, 2014, 01:59 AM   #1222
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The 1950s-era Wilshire Grand hotel has been completely demolished and construction on its 73-story office/hotel/retail skyscraper replacement has begun (see last photo). Now we have new renderings (via broker/blogger Brigham Yen) of the tower by architect AC Martin—these have not yet been approved by developer Korean Air—including many of the seventieth-floor sky lobby, to which guests will shoot up in an express elevator before checking into their rooms (very Lost in Translation). The renderings show a spire that can change color to reflect holidays and observances, and a rooftop pool that will be the highest on the West Coast (an "outdoor living room" is also planned). The hotel will be four stars and have 900 rooms, run by an operator to be announced soon—choices have narrowed down to two; rumors indicate it'll be a Grand Hyatt or a Waldorf-Astoria (!!). The tower should open in early 2017.














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Old January 8th, 2014, 10:29 PM   #1223
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I agree with the posts regarding the spires. According to spire-supporters, I could attach a 4,000 foot "spire" that was "designed to go with the building" to my 25 foot house and have it be the tallest building in the world. Sorry folks, calling BS on spire-cheating; roof height all the way.
Wrong. A certain percentage of a building's height has to be usable space before it can be classified as a building, and not just a tower.

If something on top of a building doesn't serve another purpose, such as a radio antenna, mast, flag pole, sign, etc then it's part of that building. Parts of radio antennas can be, and sometimes are removed, such as on the Willis Tower. A spire is part of the building.

Spires, statues, domes, etc count towards a building's height. Accept it, get over it and move on with your lives.
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Old January 8th, 2014, 11:11 PM   #1224
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Wrong. A certain percentage of a building's height has to be usable space before it can be classified as a building, and not just a tower.

If something on top of a building doesn't serve another purpose, such as a radio antenna, mast, flag pole, sign, etc then it's part of that building. Parts of radio antennas can be, and sometimes are removed, such as on the Willis Tower. A spire is part of the building.

Spires, statues, domes, etc count towards a building's height. Accept it, get over it and move on with your lives.
Stay mad.
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Old January 9th, 2014, 03:39 AM   #1225
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This will be a beautiful building.
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Old January 11th, 2014, 06:45 AM   #1226
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Old January 11th, 2014, 09:27 AM   #1227
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When's the big concrete pour scheduled?
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Old January 11th, 2014, 11:48 AM   #1228
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The interior looks very good. I love the design.
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Old January 12th, 2014, 04:36 AM   #1229
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When's the big concrete pour scheduled?
On February 15 Conco will pour the largest continuous mat foundation ever done in the United States, with over 21,000 cubic yards of concrete poured over the course of 24 hours. The same company will be pouring the concrete for the core, and once that starts the core will rise at a rate of one floor every four days.
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Old January 12th, 2014, 05:07 PM   #1230
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On February 15 Conco will pour the largest continuous mat foundation ever done in the United States, with over 21,000 cubic yards of concrete poured over the course of 24 hours. The same company will be pouring the concrete for the core, and once that starts the core will rise at a rate of one floor every four days.
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Let's hope so. That will be great.
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Old January 12th, 2014, 06:03 PM   #1231
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Uh, i totally missed this one is U/C already. Great
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Old January 13th, 2014, 01:58 PM   #1232
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Old January 14th, 2014, 07:22 AM   #1233
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It appears a 2nd stationery crane has been installed from this Instagram pic.


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Old January 14th, 2014, 07:41 AM   #1234
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It appears a 2nd stationery crane has been installed from this Instagram pic.


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Drove by the site on the 110 Harbor Fwy northbound late afternoon today after training from my work. There is indeed another crane set-up there from what I saw...
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Old January 14th, 2014, 02:59 PM   #1235
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That second tower crane looks like it's positioned for the lowrise section of the project.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 06:08 PM   #1236
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I think these photos weren't posted earlier showing the columns being put in place.


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Old January 14th, 2014, 06:18 PM   #1237
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I'm not too excited about the design, it looks ok, more like a "supertall" filler for the skyline. From the renderings it looks like the Library Tower will still be the centerpiece of the Los Angeles skyline.

Glad to see this under construction. I guess I was hoping for something more iconic.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 07:41 PM   #1238
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The complaining about the spire is a tad bit petty imo. The building is still 1,000 feet tall. And it will be a nice addition to LA's skyline. In fact, any tall and decent skyscraper should be celebrated in LA. Yes, the US Bank building WILL look taller from certain angles since the Wilshire has a 100 foot spire, but its still impressive none-the-less. If you think the Wilshire will dominate the LA skyline, you'll probably be disappointed, but dominating a skyline isn't want you want- you want to add to the skyline. The Transbay Tower in SF(1,070ft, no spire) will be 200ft taller than any other building, but it won't take over the skyline. I just got back from NYC, and the One WTC building simply adds to the skyline, but doesn't dominate it.

But on that note....the spire on the One WTC is rather ridiculous. Its an AWESOME building. When you see the design in person, it is very impressive. BUT the spire is massive, and that makes other buildings in NYC, which don't have spires, appear to be almost as tall. In my book, the Willis tower is Chicago is still the tallest in Norther America.
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Old January 15th, 2014, 02:36 AM   #1239
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When you consider how big those starter columns are, this is a lot of rebar....and they are still installing it.

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