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Old May 12th, 2014, 03:30 AM   #1481
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Yes. It will be a great building (with an observation deck), but when they refer to it as the tallest building west of the Mississippi and you realize the crown and spire, I can understand why someone feels "cheated".


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Old May 12th, 2014, 05:45 AM   #1482
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Wilshire Grand Contruction Photo Updates 10 May 2014

Pics taken by me on 10 May 2014...

Core is rising and progressing.

WILSHIRE GRAND CONSTRUCTION PHOTO UPDATES...

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Old May 12th, 2014, 11:39 AM   #1483
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Walked by the site today. from the 7th street entrance of the Ernest and Young building, the very top the the core can be seen. pretty cool considering they still need to add the other half of P1 to the core. At the rate their going it should be street level by friday. and visible from the street.
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Old May 17th, 2014, 02:18 AM   #1484
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I published a few days ago an article that stated that the building was 940 ft to the top of the crown and 840 ft to the roof pool. Could be slightly less than that, according to this fact sheet: 934ft. to the crown and 827ft. to the Sky Pool.

Link to the fact sheet in PDF
http://www.wilshiregrandcenter.com/i...eet_2_5_13.pdf













From the same fact sheet, I also extracted this drawing to JPG, of the South Elevation.
There are other views, it is a five-page fact sheet



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Old May 18th, 2014, 09:35 PM   #1485
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Old May 19th, 2014, 02:37 AM   #1486
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Wilshire Grand Tower Construction Photo Updates

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Old May 20th, 2014, 12:50 AM   #1487
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Yes yes and yes... this is the base

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Old May 20th, 2014, 03:11 AM   #1488
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The design is nice, but it is such a shame that this isn't really a supertall.
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Old May 20th, 2014, 02:19 PM   #1489
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The design is nice, but it is such a shame that this isn't really a supertall.
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Old May 20th, 2014, 02:56 PM   #1490
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Let's not start the spire vs roof debate, please...
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Old May 20th, 2014, 03:59 PM   #1491
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Spires count, you lose.
It isn't a matter of winning or losing, but rather of overall skyline impact. And this won't end up having the impact of a supertall. How you count the numbers are irrelevant.
But don't get me wrong, it's an exceedingly well designed building, and an excellent addition to the Los Angeles skyline. I just wish it had the skyline impact of a legitimate 1100 ft. skyscraper.
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Old May 20th, 2014, 09:46 PM   #1492
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It isn't a matter of winning or losing, but rather of overall skyline impact. And this won't end up having the impact of a supertall. How you count the numbers are irrelevant.
But don't get me wrong, it's an exceedingly well designed building, and an excellent addition to the Los Angeles skyline. I just wish it had the skyline impact of a legitimate 1100 ft. skyscraper.


I don't know. To me, this looks like it'll have a striking presence. I believe it's on a slightly higher hill, giving the crown the impression that it's taller than the Bank tower. The crown will light up with LED lights. Regardless of your opinion of classifying it as a "real" supertall, it's still a major addition to the skyline that'll create a western cluster of sorts.
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Old May 20th, 2014, 11:54 PM   #1493
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I don't know. To me, this looks like it'll have a striking presence. I believe it's on a slightly higher hill, giving the crown the impression that it's taller than the Bank tower. The crown will light up with LED lights. Regardless of your opinion of classifying it as a "real" supertall, it's still a major addition to the skyline that'll create a western cluster of sorts.
it could even become the most noticable tower in Downtown thanks to its all glass skin embeded with LEDs from top to bottom making it the only tower that lights up completely (not just the scattered lights that shine off building windows from the floors being occupied).

both the USBT and WG sit at 300 ft ASL, and the overall mass of USBT will be only 60 feet taller than the 940 Ft crown which will be barely noticable, and not to mention the spire will be very noticable even in day it being stainless steel, it will be very visible at night with its LED lights.

when driving toward DTLA on the 110 N FWY, 10 E FWY the crown of the WGT will seem taller than USBT. but the best view will be driving down the 101 FWY toward DTLA.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 01:31 AM   #1494
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it could even become the most noticable tower in Downtown thanks to its all glass skin embeded with LEDs from top to bottom making it the only tower that lights up completely (not just the scattered lights that shine off building windows from the floors being occupied).

both the USBT and WG sit at 300 ft ASL, and the overall mass of USBT will be only 60 feet taller than the 940 Ft crown which will be barely noticable, and not to mention the spire will be very noticable even in day it being stainless steel, it will be very visible at night with its LED lights.

when driving toward DTLA on the 110 N FWY, 10 E FWY the crown of the WGT will seem taller than USBT. but the best view will be driving down the 101 FWY toward DTLA.
The USB tower is 90 feet taller (1018' vs. 928') and sits at a slightly higher elevation, but this tower will still have an impact.
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The USB tower is 90 feet taller (1018' vs. 928') and sits at a slightly higher elevation, but this tower will still have an impact.
(crown tip is actually 934') 940 vs 1020 more like 80 feet, both of us were wrong.

based on google earth both sit at 300 ft above sea level
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Old May 21st, 2014, 02:57 AM   #1496
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I tend to think of US Bank and Wilshire Grand as King and Queen of Downtown. He with his stiff shoulders and colorful crown. She with her elegant curves and fancy tiara. They make a nice pair.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 04:33 AM   #1497
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I don't know. To me, this looks like it'll have a striking presence. I believe it's on a slightly higher hill, giving the crown the impression that it's taller than the Bank tower. The crown will light up with LED lights. Regardless of your opinion of classifying it as a "real" supertall, it's still a major addition to the skyline that'll create a western cluster of sorts.
You may note I did say it would be a great addition to the Los Angeles skyline, but think of how much greater it could have been if its' roof height was equal to its' spire height.
The design is indeed quite striking if it will be completed as rendered. But it would have been nice to see LA get a building that looks as tall as its' official count is, that's all.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 08:00 AM   #1498
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Any big building in LA will not be super giant tall, because there are earthquakes and having such a massive structure be quake-resistant is very expensive and has practical limits. Things like gas lines, electrical cabling, water pipes, and elevator support columns all need different couplings and stuff to keep from breaking in a strong quake. The taller a building is, the more of this there has to be, and the more things like resonant frequency comes into play.... Doubt there will ever be a true roof height supertall anywhere within 1000 miles of the pacific coast.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 10:50 PM   #1499
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You may note I did say it would be a great addition to the Los Angeles skyline, but think of how much greater it could have been if its' roof height was equal to its' spire height.
The design is indeed quite striking if it will be completed as rendered. But it would have been nice to see LA get a building that looks as tall as its' official count is, that's all.
I think it is iconic and large enough to be a landmark.
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Any big building in LA will not be super giant tall, because there are earthquakes and having such a massive structure be quake-resistant is very expensive and has practical limits. Things like gas lines, electrical cabling, water pipes, and elevator support columns all need different couplings and stuff to keep from breaking in a strong quake. The taller a building is, the more of this there has to be, and the more things like resonant frequency comes into play.... Doubt there will ever be a true roof height supertall anywhere within 1000 miles of the pacific coast.
Salesforce tower basically is, the solid roof is 970' but an enclosed crown is almost as good as a roof to me.

I believe Seattle also has a supertall proposal as well although I'm not sure how legit it is.
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