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Old May 22nd, 2014, 12:25 AM   #1501
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The Wilshire Grand and Salesforce Tower were originally planned to be 1,250 and 1,200 feet respectively. So I don't think you can rule out buildings of this magnitude being built because of earthquake standards.
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 12:25 AM   #1502
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Doubt there will ever be a true roof height supertall anywhere within 1000 miles of the pacific coast.
Dude....What?? There already is. US Bank tower is 1018 ft to the "true roof height"
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 12:33 AM   #1503
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Dude....What?? There already is. US Bank tower is 1018 ft to the "true roof height"
I thought he meant planned but there ya go, there already is one and has been since around 1990.

A lot of US cities, including LA are long overdo for new tallests.
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 12:45 AM   #1504
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Today (5/21) update: getting ready to pour the next floor of the core putting the forms up:

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Old May 22nd, 2014, 12:59 AM   #1505
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Any big building in LA will not be super giant tall, because there are earthquakes and having such a massive structure be quake-resistant is very expensive and has practical limits. Things like gas lines, electrical cabling, water pipes, and elevator support columns all need different couplings and stuff to keep from breaking in a strong quake. The taller a building is, the more of this there has to be, and the more things like resonant frequency comes into play.... Doubt there will ever be a true roof height supertall anywhere within 1000 miles of the pacific coast.
Yes sir, I said this before...right on the money.

On another thing. I've lived here all my life, and looking at this picture, I see that the dynamic view of the downtown cluster will change completely. For such a long time the cluster was a pyramid shape, with the USBT being its pinnacle.

Wilshire Grand changes that dynamic completely.

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Old May 22nd, 2014, 05:38 PM   #1506
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I think it is iconic and large enough to be a landmark.
This building is great but its no icon. It doesn't stand out enough to be an icon.
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Old May 22nd, 2014, 10:46 PM   #1507
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This building is great but its no icon. It doesn't stand out enough to be an icon.
not from that angle but from the west and east, it sure will be highly noticeable and icon-worthy
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Old May 23rd, 2014, 07:29 AM   #1508
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not from that angle but from the west and east, it sure will be highly noticeable and icon-worthy
You can't have something only be an icon half of the time. That doesn't make sense; it either is, or isn't.
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Old May 23rd, 2014, 12:02 PM   #1509
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You can't have something only be an icon half of the time. That doesn't make sense; it either is, or isn't.
You'll see it from all angles given it's height. LA Live has proven to be an icon without being the tallest in the city. The building and plaza has so much light that it's the most noticeable thing in all of Downtown. Considering the crown of Wilshire Grand will feature LED lighting, I wouldn't doubt it'll sure be noticeable.
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Old May 23rd, 2014, 08:48 PM   #1510
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not from that angle but from the west and east, it sure will be highly noticeable and icon-worthy
A building is usually considered an icon when it becomes a symbol of something other than itself. Like ESB is a symbol of NYC, Sears is a symbol of Chicago, TransAmerica tower is a symbol of SF. This often means unique design / unique height. This building has neither.
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Old May 23rd, 2014, 10:13 PM   #1511
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LA already has its icon... the Hollywood sign.
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Old May 23rd, 2014, 10:39 PM   #1512
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A building is usually considered an icon when it becomes a symbol of something other than itself. Like ESB is a symbol of NYC, Sears is a symbol of Chicago, TransAmerica tower is a symbol of SF. This often means unique design / unique height. This building has neither.
While the height is nothing new to LA the design certainly is pretty unique, but I agree
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Old May 23rd, 2014, 10:43 PM   #1513
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Today (5/21) update: getting ready to pour the next floor of the core putting the forms up:

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And with that it reaches street level.
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Old May 24th, 2014, 12:09 AM   #1514
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While the height is nothing new to LA the design certainly is pretty unique, but I agree
Yeah I think it's a great design and somewhat unique but it's not enough so to be iconic. I have always thought this tower would fit right in with the towers proposed for wolf point in Chicago
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Old May 25th, 2014, 09:24 PM   #1515
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Old May 27th, 2014, 10:49 AM   #1516
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Old May 28th, 2014, 07:02 AM   #1517
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A building is usually considered an icon when it becomes a symbol of something other than itself. Like ESB is a symbol of NYC, Sears is a symbol of Chicago, TransAmerica tower is a symbol of SF. This often means unique design / unique height. This building has neither.
Ok, first of all, the photo shown in thread 1507 is not showing the correct height of Wilshire Grand. if one where to run a horizontal line from the roof of the US Bank tower to the WG, then yes, what is depicted would be correct, but note two other things missed, one, note the roof line of the ARCO twin towers, all photos are in prespective, and the WG tower is 3 blocks closer to this vantage point, so the roof line, or top of the crown of WG would in fact be at least as high as that of USB if not slightly higher.

As for icon status, this tower will be the new downtown icon mainly for the fact that it will be the first building above 500' without a flat roof and helipad, therefore distinctive in the skyline, not to mention the spire also a first in Los Angeles, excepting Capitol Records
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Old May 28th, 2014, 08:15 AM   #1518
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It would have to appear a good deal taller to top of crown than US Bank Tower from most perspectives in the surrounding area to become the new iconic tower of the city. IMO, this is why spires don't usually count unless they are a substantial addition to the silhouette of the building like ESB's is. It's a cool design. If only they had decided to go for 50 meters taller, it may have been just enough to fade out USBT as the iconic tower of the city over time.
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Old May 28th, 2014, 06:51 PM   #1519
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LA already has its icon... the Hollywood sign.
..that and the Chinese Theater, Walk of Fame, City Hall, Disney Hall (new icon), what else?
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Old May 28th, 2014, 10:57 PM   #1520
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