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Old February 1st, 2011, 08:30 PM   #161
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^Having a spire and a helipad works alright on the Burj-al-Arab...

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Old February 2nd, 2011, 04:13 AM   #162
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I just love how the renders show thousands of happy people hanging out in the landscaping at the bottom of the tower, drinking lattes and buying flowers.... its gonna be windy and dark down there, next to a road... who in their right mind is going to want to sit there. I hate renders
Clearly you don't know enough about what's going on downtown to say that. Almost every skyscraper downtown has some sort of retail on the bottom (be it a restaraunt or whatever else). Besides which, this will be smack in the middle of the financial district so there will be people running around all the time. And, as evident by LA Live, large scale projects have a radius effect that pretty much force other buildings around it to upgrade.
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Unlike New York or Chicago, LA developed various building centers, so if you're looking for a concentrated Downtown, LA isn't it. Downtown LA still is the "main" one, but you'd have to consider LA's nature.

Just the Wilshire Corridor has enough buildings to rival any other mid-city.
But even in NY it's downtown or CBDs aren't actually centralized. You have Financial District and Midtown Manhattan plus Downtown Brooklyn and Jersey City.

I have mixed feeling with this tower. For one, doe LA need another supertall? The US Bank Tower is already iconic enough to be the tallest building in the city.

Design-wise, this one looks inferior compared to the current tallest.
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Old February 2nd, 2011, 05:35 AM   #164
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Its talle then US bank tower i think so the spire isnt that tall.
It is taller then BOA

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A spire, and a helipad? Bad combo.
Better keep the Goodyear Blimp away lol
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Old February 3rd, 2011, 03:56 AM   #165
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But even in NY it's downtown or CBDs aren't actually centralized. You have Financial District and Midtown Manhattan plus Downtown Brooklyn and Jersey City.
Technically, that's correct, but it's sort of just a geographical accident that they are. Midtown and Lower Manhattan are separated mostly because the underlying bedrock in the low-rise area between them is so much further under the surface, that it makes skyscraper foundations more challenging and expensive. Jersey City and Downtown Brooklyn, however, are just across the water from Lower Manhattan, so they're as close as possible. Los Angeles is still a significantly different style of city, outside of Downtown itself.

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I have mixed feeling with this tower. For one, doe LA need another supertall? The US Bank Tower is already iconic enough to be the tallest building in the city.
What's wrong with having more supertalls? Again, look at New York: The Empire State Building was "iconic enough" to be the tallest building forever, and now it's about to be surpassed again. Look how Comcast Center surpassed Liberty Place in Philadelphia. Look how Shanghai Centre is about to exceed the already enormous Shanghai WFC, just as SWFC passed up Jin Mao Tower. What about when Library Tower passed up AON Center? When LA City hall was first overtopped in the mid-60's after over 30 years as the tallest building in California? I think it's good to let the present architecture exceed the heights and technologies of the past. It's just progress. I can't wait to learn how this proposal is going to be engineered for the potential seismic stresses!

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Design-wise, this one looks inferior compared to the current tallest.
You may have a valid point here. I do think that this proposal is really awesome, but Library Tower is always going to be our Chrysler Building.
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Old February 3rd, 2011, 04:38 AM   #166
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I was thinking more Woolworth then Chryslar. But either one is good.
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 05:53 AM   #167
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Get out your sunglasses because the AC Martin-designed Wilshire Grand office and hotel project—and the downtown skyline—just got brighter. Rejecting the sign-lite recommendation made by the Planning Commission late last year, today the Planning and Land Use Management Committee approved architectural lighting on the 45-story and 65-story towers of the building, and approved larger digital signs on the bottom of the project.

The move by the Committee restores some of digital signage originally sought by Thomas Properties/Hanjin International, which is developing the project at Wilshire Boulevard and Figueroa Street, replacing the existing hotel with this new office and hotel project.

In explaining why the Committee chose to restore the architectural lighting--defined as LED lights, but no advertising--rather than follow the Planning Commission's recommendations, City Councilman Ed Reyes, who chairs the Planning and Land Use Management Committee, said the lighting would “add character to the skyline," and show off the outline of the building. "It will be artistic in nature," said Reyes.

Brookfield Properties may still have some issues with those lights.

To some watching today’s approval, there's little understanding about what the architectural lighting will look like. The renderings in the EIR show the requested LED signage area--originally, Thomas Properties/Hanjin sought digital advertising on the towers, a move which was shot down by the city--but renderings don't show the recently approved architectural lighting, which will rise on the upper part of the towers.

“The building is going to be changing colors and at different rates and different times," said Dennis Hathaway, who runs the Coalition to Ban Billboard Blight. “There should be a simulation, there should be a model." The Planning and Land Use Management Committee, he added, "was remiss in its obligation" to the public by approving the project without calling for more explanation of what the lighting will look like.

Neighboring property owners have also expressed concerns about the project. Specifically, Brookfield Properties, which appealed the Planning Commission project’s decision, continues to contest the signage of the project, saying the brightness of the signs will affect the ability to lease out their neighboring commercial properties.

As recently as yesterday, Brookfield submitted documents to the city showing comparative candela levels of various signage in the downtown area, and expressing their own preference for the candela levels on the project. Attorneys for Brookfield Properties present at today's meeting refused to comment after the vote.

But clearing another obstacle of opposition, a deal is close to being reached with the owner of 1000 Wilshire, the Wedbush building, and another neighbor that had expressed concerns about the development. Attorney Ben Reznick, who represents 1000 Wilshire, said a "handshake" deal with the developer over traffic mitigation issues had been reached.

Following today's vote, the City Council will consider the Wilshire Grand hotel by March 9th. Developer Thomas Properties/Korean Air want to start demoing the existing hotel by the end of the year, a deadline that City Councilwoman Jan Perry, who represents this part of downtown, has tried to help the developer reach. Perry appeared at today's meeting, urging the Committee to approve the development, as well as the architectural lighting.


And today's approval wasn't just for the building, but a new sign district as well, one likely to grow bigger.

As part of the development agreement with the city, the developer will put $400,000 toward the study of new sign district--the Figueroa Corridor Supplemental Use District--that will extend from Wilshire Boulevard to LA Live. “[The Wilshire Grand] could be viewed as one of the anchors of a proposed sign district, LA Live being another anchor,” Reyes told planning staff during the meeting.
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 03:09 PM   #168
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“The building is going to be changing colors and at different rates and different times,"

Like this? Duke Energy Voltron! in Charlotte

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tplx2CIuHfc
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 03:22 PM   #169
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my sis lives near here..
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Old March 3rd, 2011, 01:44 AM   #170
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Oficial Site.

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http://www.wilshiresquare.com/index.shtml
Here is a website of this project.. Really nice and had some nice videos of it
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Old March 3rd, 2011, 03:05 PM   #171
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Nice! Thanks Kenni
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Old March 4th, 2011, 07:02 PM   #172
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Love both towers! It would be great additional to LA skyline!
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Old March 6th, 2011, 03:40 AM   #173
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I actualy think LA's skyline is okay but I didn't realize it had so many highrises in other areas. But LA's downtown dould look even better with this tower it looks pretty damn good.
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Old March 7th, 2011, 01:56 AM   #174
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I actualy think LA's skyline is okay but I didn't realize it had so many highrises in other areas. But LA's downtown dould look even better with this tower it looks pretty damn good.
Yup, if we combined all the high rises in the city in Downtown it would be a formidable skyline.
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Old March 10th, 2011, 11:02 AM   #175
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THE AC MARTIN DESIGNED WILSHIRE GRAND
PROJECT IS HALFWAY THERE - CURBEDLA
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ENVIRONMENTAL APPROVAL FOR 1 BILLION DOWNTOWN PROJECT
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A proposal for a $1-billion hotel development in downtown Los Angeles passed a major hurdle Wednesday when the City Council signed off on the project’s massive environmental impact report.

The council unanimously granted a series of entitlements for the proposed 560 room Wilshire Grand Hotel, including permission to sell alcohol at 21 restaurants, bars and other venues, installation of a rooftop helicopter landing pad and a reduction in the number of parking spaces from 2,375 to 1,900.

Korean Air, the developer of the project, plans to demolish the existing hotel at Wilshire Boulevard and Figueroa Street and replace it with two towers, a 65 story hotel with residences and a 45-story office building.

Wednesday’s vote paves the way for a flurry of other decisions on the project March 29, when council members are scheduled to consider a proposed tax rebate for the hotel and a development agreement for the entire site.

The council must also decide whether to create a sign district to allow various forms of digital advertising.
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Old March 10th, 2011, 10:57 PM   #176
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That is great news. Is there any opposition against this project?
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Old March 11th, 2011, 02:34 AM   #177
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Awesome! I can't wait to see this one start. LA could use a new tallest skyscraper.
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awesome, at first I wasn't too keen on the design but it's grown on me
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Old March 11th, 2011, 03:27 AM   #179
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it's a beautiful tower, and it's great for LA to have another super tall building, but it will be weird to see a skyscraper much taller than library tower.
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Old March 11th, 2011, 07:55 PM   #180
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it's a beautiful tower, and it's great for LA to have another super tall building, but it will be weird to see a skyscraper much taller than library tower.
It shouldn't appear too much taller than the library tower. The highest couple hundred feet are just a spire, so it won't have a huge impact.
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