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Old February 8th, 2015, 06:50 AM   #1941
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The concrete core is 30'x135' As for the steel perimeter?
Yes the base including the steel perimeter.
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Yes the base including the steel perimeter.
The steel perimeter is about 100' 200'
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Old February 9th, 2015, 12:42 AM   #1946
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This is one of the classiest structures going up ANYWHERE in the US right now, and no that is not being biased, even if you think I am!

I wish they would have used the opportunity to build something with a roof height similar to US Bank, or even better would be above that. I am not complaining, we have probably the sleekest, most modern looking tower going up here right now, in the country. I just dont like how the "70th" floor rooftop area, is maybe a couple stories in height above the Aeon Tower (also they are skipping a LOT of floors here too). Still we NEED this!! DT LA has not been getting many buildings in the past 20 years (if any), and this is breaking the spell and a MAJOR way!! I just wish that they built the occupiable floors to the very top where the top of the crown would be, and then put a crown on that! That would put it up at the same height at the obs deck pod 102nd ESB floor if they did that

There was a psychological spell to be broken because we have major faults criss-crossing the region, but these tower's downtown wont have any issues standing up to these quakes, even the "big one" we are expecting from San Andreas to be in the 7.9-8.2 range. Just about any of the steel framed office buildings (or massively RC structures) from the late 50's-60's and on wont have any major issues. Most people dont know about the Puente Hills fault, which crosses under DT LA, at an angle, and that is ready to go eventually. If that goes, we can expect a 6.9-7.5 range DIRECTLY under DT LA, which would be very bad, but its the older structures in the banking and garment districts (including converted lofts and parking lots) that I would not want to be in, when this happens! The Puente Hills fault and other similar nearby faults actually pose a greater threat to downtown than the San Andreas. The problem is, with the San Andreas, if we get what is called a wall-to-wall rupture, the entire fault will break loose from Parkfield up north, all the way down to the Salton Sea! So the shaking will be an intense side to side, (north to south) with a very DEEP frequency, and the smaller buildings such as mid-rises, squat apt. buildings, and similar structures will get the most damaged.

After 92 Landers (7.3) and 94 Northridge (6.7-6.9) we can pretty much see that these large structures were pretty much untouched, and with advances in seismic technology, its now safe to build massive (100+ floor) buildings. On a side note, Northridge WAS stronger then a 6.7-6.9 - My friends father worked for Caltech, and he said that Northridge was really a 7.0-7.1, but because there was a weird fed law in place with FEMA at the time, they "downgraded it." FEMA would not have been able to have helped if it was a 7.2 or larger quake, and Northridge quake at the time was the most costly natural disaster to hit the entire US to that point.

The proof of this is under our noses if you research this. There were buildings that has seismometers installed around the SFV (including Holiday Inn on Roscoe across from Galpin), and the acceleration rate readings from the shaking (about .65) in 1971 Sylmar quake (a 6.6), was almost a THIRD of what the Northridge (which was close to quake produced at just over 1.25). By the way the Holiday Inn I mentioned was built in 1962 and had no issues standing up to Sylmar, but in Northridge, it was VERY damaged, and had to be red tagged, and was actually in danger of having floors pancaking for a while before they fixed and retrofitted it. Another way to look at these quakes we had, is by looking at the Modified Mercali Scale (which measures intensity from 1-10) in conjunction with the Richter scale. Northridge was a 6.7 richter (yeah right!), but registered a 9 (out of 10) in most areas of the valley, and 8 around the rest of LA. Does that sound normal that a 6.7 quake would produce Mercali ratings, that would normally be produced by a quake of at least 7.5 richter and up? Northridge was a strike-slip fault, which are one of the worst and is one of the more severe "shakers," and we live in the LA basin which is like a giant bowl of jello, but with the facts I stated above, its makes you kind of wonder. I did not pull this out of thin air either, "someone" (my close friends father) from Caltech explained this all to me (I was 15 years old at the time), and I did not actually think much of it until later when I got into structural engineering, eartquake construction, and tall structures.

US Bank tower was built with a massively RC core with massive amounts of rebar AND steel beams encased in the central concrete, and a VERY stout steel frame - the steel they used at the time was the strongest of any building ever put up in the US (at least at the time), but it probably still holds that record. Experts stated that US Bank can withstand the Big One very easily, and basically with no damage - They said it can withstand 8.3 or larger quakes, so being at the top is one of the safest places to be in the city.
In fact it was the tallest building in the world at the time, that was built to handle such massive quakes, even including the ones in Japan.

Of course, plenty of consultation is done using Japanese specialists when they build any of these large buildings here. This was a very popular thing after 94, when there were high rises that were damaged (look up Champagne Towers in Santa Monica built in the 60's as a 16 floor RC structure and didnt show much damage from outside).. for years I drove by that building wondering why they put steel beams up along the back of that building to support it, until I found pics of the damage later - the concrete beams on lower floors towards the back of the structure, had crumbled, and they were afraid the building would topple over. Everyone was forced out, and people were not even able to retrieve their belongings for quite some time after. Eventually a Japanese firm stepped in, fixed the building, and retrofitted the **** out of it, and make it completely safe to handle any future larger quakes. The irony, there was a MUCH larger office tower next to this damaged building that shared the same parking lot - the parking lot underground was not damaged, and the office building next door (24 very tall floors) had almost no cracks anywhere!

I can imagine WG having this same construction - A Lot has advanced since the late 80's, but the contractors did not get much into the earthquake resistance traits of WG, which I am VERY curious of. Early on they did release a video showing the WG and how the steel beams literally pivot against each other, and the floor beams bolted to the concrete floor actually pivot too. I have a feeling they did that with US Bank as well, but probably not to the same extent.

US Bank has floors literally going almost all the way to the top. Ive never been to the top floor in US Bank Tower, but I can estimate the last floor is at about 985ft (just before the crown). Supposedly there are a few floors in the crown too, but mostly for maintenance, and I am beginning to think that the reason I hear that building (now and then) has 75, or just over 80 floors, is because of the mechanical floors in the crown and at lower levels being counted. The highest occupied floor in US Bank at 72 is a good deal higher than the WG top floor. They will open an obs deck finally in US Bank, I have been bitching about that since being a little kid, with the top floors having 360 degree view windows. What they plan to do is start the obs deck at the shoulders at the 69th floor (with an outdoor terrace), and an indoor deck on 70, with a restaurant on 71 that happens to have almost 19' ceilings, which is the same floor that the First Interstate Bank bigshots had their offices on (back in the day). Apparently, 72 will still be an office floor an will remain occupied, prolly by US Bank fat cats... Its kind of funny because I used to hear that the highest office floor was at 69 (at the shoulders), but pics of the lobby show the elevator bank responsible for serving up to floor 72, so I never did understand that. Very few floors were skipped with the US Bank tower (I believe 13 was one of them). WG is going to be a little different.

CA is huge and is most overpopulated by far, and this city skyline still does not represent this, but it WILL get there. My guess, in the next 20-30 years or less, we will see something in DTLA, that will be at least the height of the roof of WTC 1.

They did have an interesting proposal long ago called California sky Tower, and is was a VERY striking design, that looked incredible. It looked like a box that was curved on some of the edges, but at the 100th floor, the building split into 2 triangular opposing towers (with a small gap between them) that rose for another 50 floors - It was to be 151 floors total. They DO have the tech to build this now!!

China is making massive buildings, and claim that they can hold up to magnitude 9 quakes, but I have a bit of an issue believing that even though I'm sure they would be fine in 8+ magnitude quakes, all the newest ones at least. Not to say that they dont have the "know-how" but I would trust the Japanese and American firms more on this kind of thing.
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The top floor of the Us bank is at 969'Agl
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Old February 9th, 2015, 03:17 AM   #1948
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Right now, if you stand on top of US Bank Tower helipad, and had the ESB next to you, you would be able to wave at the people on the obs deck no more than 5 stories above you! Most people have no clue that this tower is so large, and are surprised if and when it ever happens to come up in conversation.

LA is changing - there is the beginning of a construction boom starting again, and I really think we are due for another large quake soon as well, but ironically, it will only cause the construction boom to pick up the pace! Looking at some of the absolutely brilliant pics from Kelbeen (if I spelled it right) that included outlines of drawn in buildings into the current skyline in their future locations roughly, and there is going to be a huge change in 5-7 years! Imagine, the next 20-30, when people here finally grow the balls to allow WTC size structures, without crying foul about earthquake concerns. The WG is going to signal the beginning of a new era, and eventually people will take pride in the skyline (possibly even NIMBY's to a certain extent). Seeing how well these large buildings held up in the last big quake, really opened the eyes of many NIMBY's, from my understanding. WG as I have said will be beautiful, and will be quite spectacular to see it lit up the same way that you see in many Asian cities.

I can understand this exact thing in NY with all the tall structures and extremely limited space, and in Chicago which has plenty of room to expand outward if they wanted, but LA is the second largest city in the country (although many would argue based on different parameters), and when I say that I mean OVERALL city AND county limits, including all the massive sprawl, and including the largest "known" population. I say that because there are millions of illegals here that are not counted in the census figures (even though they flood the welfare offices, DMV, and county hospitals). NYC Is an island roughly 12miles long by 2.5 miles wide, it could literally FIT right into the SFV 2 or possibly even 3 times over, and there would still be some room! Can you imagine all the buildings of NYC, and 17+ million people crammed into a space smaller than the SFV? Its pretty amazing! It all matters who is making the judgement, since some count the largest city based on population and nothing else. And of course NYC has the largest population crammed into a city, out of anywhere in this country.

Others count by square mileage of city limits (and some include county limits in as well). This is why you hear Houston city limits are larger than LA, but that is not including all of the unincorporated cities right in the middle of LA that dont get included into the mix, and also including LA County. I think this, coupled with the fact of our (over) population here, is why we are considered the 2nd largest city by quite a bit. There was a debate about this a while back on one of the previous threads, where everyone made great points, and it pointed out that it all depends on what is officially measured. A point was brought up about Jacksonville Florida having the largest city/county limits in the country but most of it is uncharted swamps and natural land. Actually I believe it was Anchorage, Alaska that has the largest area total, but again, most of it is uncharted, and like Jacksonville, population is not very large.

Downtown LA is estimated to be just under 3.8 million (very old estimate from late 80's) and in the immediate area. LA Metro area was estimated to be at 13 million, and the greater LA area region is around 18 million - remember most of these are 2010 figures, and DO NOT include the MASSIVE population of illegals here. I am not trying to incite a racist (I am not) flame war by saying this, but I speaketh the truth. Current estimates with illegal immigrants included for LA County, are estimated to be in the 20-23 million range, sprawled out like crazy. Total population for CA is believed to be around 38 million, but again that does not account for the illegals, and the number for the entire state is probably closer to 43-45 million - either way, this is the most populated state in the country by FAR.

I was at the Culver City DMV recently and they made it possible for illegals to get licenses here starting Jan 1st 2015. I wish we were treated this well in other countries! Back when times were tough for me in 2008-2009 and got evicted TWICE in a year, Social Services would not do shit for me despite all the struggling, almost completely losing my business, being disabled in the eyes of the govt. with my health issues, and not having a place to live. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to see what was happening there - I can drive around Van Nuys seeing people in NEW cars, that drive to the market and use their EBT card to pull cash out, buy bear, steaks, candy, etc.. you get the idea, and no this is NOT some biased bullshit. I apologize if I appear that I am trying to veer off subject (I am actually not trying to), but its a supporting point to my bit above this, about the population and will only get worse if they continue to roll out the "red carpet" for everyone while ignoring us actual citizens (mostly struggling middle-class) who actually have to pay for all this shit. At the DMV the time it took to get to the photo booth to renew my license was 3.5 hours, and while it was always bad, it was NEVER this bad! I had to go back the next day to actually wait in line again them to hand me my temp driver license papers. Starting Jan. 1, was when the new law passed (Thanks Obama!) that is allowing this, and the DMV's have been even more hellish since - but that was my fault for not making an appointment. I walked up to the computer, and finished my test in under 7 mins, while I was the only person there taking the test in English, and people were having issues with answering the questions (and many were failing), and understanding the steps the steps they need to go through at the DMV to even get to the point were you take the test! And they are eager to give these people licenses??? OMFG!! Again I am not racist, but these overcrowded roads are going to be even worse as a result. In reality, most of the illegals still would drive anyway with no license and insurance, but they are just trying to make it easier for everyone else, except for actual citizens who have to foot the bill for all this shit! I am just speaking unbiased and VERY true facts, after all my father married into a Hispanic family and I have nothing but love for them and they work VERY hard, and they followed the LAWS and came here legally to work for a better life and not pilfer off our system that lets many people fall through the cracks! I have people argue with me over this in the past, and ironically, none of these people have been run into by an uninsured illegal, then they got out of their car and fled the scene to avoid getting in trouble, and possible deportation (in their heads at least). When that happens to you, (twice like it happened to me and my custom Tbird I spent years building, and also several times to others in my family) you will start to understand more why I think that way. They treat us like SHIT in Mexico, except for area's where tourism is a big part of their economy, and they sure love the US money coming in there!

Again, I apologize for the length of this, its not meant to be a rant, and frankly I should have cut this in half, and posted the second half in a different section. But most people here are Angeleno's just like me (most have all their lives), and I have seen things my entire life get worse in many areas, while some other areas get much better. I was born in 1980 in Van Nuys, and let me tell you, it was NOTHING like it is now! It was at the beginning stages that make up the situation now. Back in my parents days, Van Nuys blvd. was like Sunset blvd. and was a popular place for drive up places (think of Sonic drivein with attendants rollerskating to your car with food), drive in movies, and car meets and cruises where people would mingle and have a great time out for the evening. Now when I drive down Van Nuys, I sometimes get some idiots flashing gang signs at me (chickenshits who I could beat down in a matter of seconds if it were fair fight and using no weapons), while they have their cars full of their chickenshit "homies" that are tough because they can pull a gun and pull a trigger, something that a 5 year old can do - many of these guys cant even shoot worth crap either, and gang shootings in LA usually take out more innocent bystanders, than actual opposing gang-members! Van Nuys was a wonderful place in the 40's, 50's, and 60's and now I feel like I am in TJ when I go through that area. Most of these people there I mentioned, are actually wonderful, hospitable, and VERY hard working folks (illegal or not), but its the retarded gang-bangers (and other illegals that raid our system and livelihood) that ruin it for the rest. A few bad apples ruin it for the rest, just like the bad corrupted cops ruin it for the good cops (remember Rampart scandal?) Ironically, the OG's as they call them, used to fight each other, but would avoid messing with innocent people, just like the very powerful mafia's would also do. Now they tend to pick on the most vulnerable, and you have people messing with you on the street in Hollywood for example, if you look like you are by yourself, while none of these people would take you on, one on one, the old fashioned and (dare I say) honorable way! Oh how things have changed. I guess I posted this because this thread is full of people who love LA, and mostly grew up here and have strong views and hopes for the direction LA is headed in the future, and I think it would be interesting to hear the thoughts of all the different people, regarding the stuff that I brought up. Everything I am saying is the honest truth, but many out there see it differently still.
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969' up is pretty high! If those floors were 10ft tall, you would have something that is in the high 80's to low 90's floor range!

I heard that the structure of US Bank is so stout, that they could have built it taller than the trade center without even beefing up the foundation, or the core, or even the rest of the structure, strength-wise.
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969' up is pretty high! If those floors were 10ft tall, you would have something that is in the high 80's to low 90's floor range!

I heard that the structure of US Bank is so stout, that they could have built it taller than the trade center without even beefing up the foundation, or the core, or even the rest of the structure, strength-wise.
That is interesting. It is nice that the skyline is getting a point and not another flat top.
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The Aon building is very imposing as well. Very square and stout. Looks great from ground level. I like DTLA.

I can say that LA does not seem to be all that bad, especially next to it's reputation. I'm sure there's a lot of undertow and such, but by the feel and by the crime numbers it's actually astoundingly safe for such a large and diverse city that is also fairly poor. Northern California is a lot grittier and seems to have even more problems with their education system than other areas of the state. Given what humanity is been through and what humanity has proven capable to withstand, it is technically possible than from this instant forward no crime could be committed. No perversion, no suffering. No lying to oneself. To others. But the sad fact is that people like crime. Even they don't and wouldn't commit it themselves, it is a perversion for them. Think joe-lower-middle class white-trash in their living room watching maury, why? After not watching much TV in a long time, it all looks so sad. Even PBS documentaries are orchestrated slightly like a soap opera. And movies are so exaggerated. I know a lot of it is for fun but why is it all like that? The way people are stereotyped so badly. Even in fairly left-leaning productions. Could the world just be good, but nothing? No exceptions. Nothing to look out for. Is that stuff about enough arable land/carbs to feed everyone evenly really true or just some hippie, humour bible bs? A lot of people turn to paranoia as an excuse, whether it's a simple my voice is too small to make a difference or an elaborate all-out illuminati scheme. I've looked for happiness and thought I found it, but have never felt that things were just plain right. I see so many people living lies on so many fronts, including myself. To be honest, for me the most important thing would be to not be so disfigured and ugly. Everyone would be happy if everyone was attractive.

I like how the core of this building almost looks like a building by itself with small windows.
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The Aon building is very imposing as well. Very square and stout. Looks great from ground level. I like DTLA.

I can say that LA does not seem to be all that bad, especially next to it's reputation. I'm sure there's a lot of undertow and such, but by the feel and by the crime numbers it's actually astoundingly safe for such a large and diverse city that is also fairly poor. Northern California is a lot grittier and seems to have even more problems with their education system than other areas of the state. Given what humanity is been through and what humanity has proven capable to withstand, it is technically possible than from this instant forward no crime could be committed. No perversion, no suffering. No lying to oneself. To others. But the sad fact is that people like crime. Even they don't and wouldn't commit it themselves, it is a perversion for them. Think joe-lower-middle class white-trash in their living room watching maury, why? After not watching much TV in a long time, it all looks so sad. Even PBS documentaries are orchestrated slightly like a soap opera. And movies are so exaggerated. I know a lot of it is for fun but why is it all like that? The way people are stereotyped so badly. Even in fairly left-leaning productions. Could the world just be good, but nothing? No exceptions. Nothing to look out for. Is that stuff about enough arable land/carbs to feed everyone evenly really true or just some hippie, humour bible bs? A lot of people turn to paranoia as an excuse, whether it's a simple my voice is too small to make a difference or an elaborate all-out illuminati scheme. I've looked for happiness and thought I found it, but have never felt that things were just plain right. I see so many people living lies on so many fronts, including myself. To be honest, for me the most important thing would be to not be so disfigured and ugly. Everyone would be happy if everyone was attractive.

I like how the core of this building almost looks like a building by itself with small windows.

I REALLY like how you worded that! And yes there are a LOT of great things here about LaLa Land - People are attracted to here from all over the world for a reason. Crime has dropped drastically, but it also has a lot to do with the LAPD removing "certain" types of crimes from the overall statistics, even when they do belong on the very list they mention, to be accounted for.

"A lot of people turn to paranoia as an excuse, whether it's a simple my voice is too small to make a difference or an elaborate all-out illuminati scheme."

This is VERY true, as philosophical as you put it. Honestly, I think its a mixture of the two. Most people thinking they are peons that are too little for their voice to be heard (and the way things are going its becoming more and more true), and also the fact that the Illuminati is VERY alive and well, especially here in LA. They control the entire entertainment and music industry, and are VERY tied in with state and Federal government on all levels. Of course people need to be mindful of what they choose to believe, because a lot of it is more bullshit than anything, but a lot of it is also true, as weird as some of this shit sounds and works. The things that they teach in schools, colleges, universities, (etc) are how things are supposed to be operating, but the harsh reality most people run into is that things have changed over the past 35-50 years, but especially accelerating from the time when Clinton signed NAFTA (which 1st Bush condoned), to 9/11, to the Patriot Act, and now to how many Americans are viewed as terrorists, and/or targeted by the IRS for speaking out, and we ARE slowly losing our rights. I dont mean to turn this into a political thing, because this really isnt about that. The subject just came up because I love LA (and hate the way local and fed govt. is handling things), and I love that we are FINALLY getting a new "World-Class" Tower and it will make a massive impact on the skyline. Also one needs to consider that this building will most likely be lit up like an Asian tower, and will look magnificent. I am trying to envision riding the elevator to the 70th floor, and having a dinner and drink on the outside terrace while taking in views of the whole city! I also envision being up in the top of the US Bank Tower when they finally build their obs deck, and being able to look over at the WG and down at everything else! In fact, when you add in all the recent proposals that look like they are finally moving forward after much effort, the skyline is going to grow a lot longer and wider! A recent pic by Kelbeen (if I spelled his name correctly) that was back a few or more pages, showed many of these proposed and approved towers traced into the skyline pic, which this one in particular was viewing from Griffith Park or Hollywood Hills I believe.

I apologize for veering off in a different direction, and dont mean to sound bitter, or crazy (if I do actually sound that way). I just have strong feelings for the city I grew up in, and still love even though I dont like how things are being run here, at all!!

We have the population and resources, to develop a skyline like a world-class city, but need more demand for this kind of thing in DTLA. Eventually that WILL happen when the sprawl spreads out too much, and we will start seeing these many other towers going up, and I strongly believe that they will eventually build something a good deal taller, perhaps with a roof at the same level as the ESB upper obs deck (380m). Or even possibly up closer to the WTC roof. They DO have the technology and know-how to build these structures even in an area criss-crossing with all kinds of different earthquake faults, capable of generating pretty large magnitude quakes = After all we are FOR SURE due for another one, and I hope everyone here is aware and prepared! I give it another 20-30 years before we see something over 1300 feet tall, but I will have my hopes that we will get this sooner!!

There was a picture of the LA skyline recently posted in a newspaper article, that "coincidentally" (yeah right) uses the same exact pic that Kelbeen put up of the LA skyline, just that it did not have the towers traced in. I wish I could remember the exact publication, and the date it came out, but I remember it was called "Money & Investing." Lately these articles are highlighting the new towers going up especially in NYC (I found one from 1/21/2015 on the front page), that are showing some of these monsters that being funded by foreign investors looking to build the next "famous" structure, like the Chrysler or Rockefeller.

I just happen to have a lot of personal feelings strongly rooted in my mindset because I grew up here, and while I have seen many things improve drastically, I have also seen many things go down the rabbit-hole; beyond the point of no return. I have high-hopes for LA, even though I am going through hell trying to run my IT business here, which is one of the toughest places in the country.
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Old February 10th, 2015, 10:07 AM   #1954
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One day, when the WG is completed and/or the obs deck at US Bank tower is opened for business, ALL of us Southern Californians should have a big meet planned out! I cant think of much else that would be as epic as doing this kind of meet It would be interesting to meet all the locals from the forum here!
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Old February 10th, 2015, 10:12 AM   #1955
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A good diagram. The pool you see is on the lower buildings roof.
Early on, I remember hearing that the shorter building was scrapped and they are just building the large tower. Is this still the case? Because in this diagram there is a pool on the roof, of a much shorter structure (not to be "Captain Obvious").

If you glance over at DTLA skyline from the 10E, you can see the WG and crane peeking out. Another few months, and you wont have to look hard at all!
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The large pool will be on top of the building to the left.
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Old February 10th, 2015, 11:03 AM   #1958
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The large pool will be on top of the building to the left.[/QUOTE]

All I can say is WOW!!!

The podium looks absolutely spectacular, and VERY inviting from the street level. I am sure that there will be a lot of curious people wanting to check it out, other than us crazy skyscraper enthusiasts! I would love to rent a hotel room near the top, say in the floor range between 60 and 68 or whatever is highest!!

I am sure that security will be VERY tight, and I do expect metal detectors and/or similar equipment to what you would see at LAX, for the average visitor to go to the top, and/or rent a hotel room. It is very unique, that you go up to the 70th floor to check in at the front desk for the Hotel (very international trait), and it also helps insure that even the lowest hotel room will still be high up enough for a view!

My guess is that the people who are "regulars" and work or visit there all the time, will have key-cards and they will be treated like as if they are entering just about any other tower in LA. I work all over LA, and have been in lots of these towers, and the twin towers in Century City are actually pretty tight with security, and ask to examine you backseats and trunk when you pull into the underground parking. LoL, when they did that with me, all they could see is a trunk of sub-woofers, amps, digital crossover, and powerful Caps, with fuse blocks and LOTS of wiring. It caught their attention at first, but they remembered me the next time since I had a very custom Tbird at the time that was completely tricked out, and the guard was practically drooling over my car, and understood, = because he had a car with a sound system himself (since he asked me a half-dozen questions about how I had it setup and what I recommend he should do with his Mustang)

In fact the twin towers (WTC-like design to be specific) in Century City have more potent security than many of the larger ones downtown, but that is mainly because the complex is famous icon just like Fox Plaza (think of the original Diehard movie with Bruce Willis), and are considered targets even to this day.
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Old February 10th, 2015, 11:08 AM   #1959
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VERY interesting stuff!!

Thank you for the posts!! So from what I gather, there appears to be 5-6 floors of subterranean parking under the podium?

And the building on the left which appears to be part of the podium; that appears to be the equivalent of 10-12 floors up that the roof would be at, for that large pool.

There will be many executive perverts bringing binoculars to work to enjoy the view, and it wont be just the building that they are looking at!
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Wilshire Grand Center Facebook Page[/QUOTE]

I know this was already posted a few pages back, but am just catching up now, and could not help myself to creating a response to this. The crane operator looks like he is so high up, when in reality he probably really is not even more than 350ft off the ground.

I have heard of cranes in the past, the contain cabs in them similar to big-rigs, where 2-3 people can fit, and take their food and bathroom breaks without leaving! I also have heard of tiny 1 person lifts that travel up the frame. I would love to see one of these if they really do exist!! I would assume that these lifts are similar to the ones on the Golden Gate bridge that allow the engineers to climb along the cables up to the top and in between, during their constant mission to keep fresh paint on, and fighting corrosion!
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