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Old May 9th, 2009, 01:48 PM   #1
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>Proposed | Ocean Reef Marina [Mixed Use]

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Much of the bush shown in the photo will be retained.













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Old May 9th, 2009, 02:51 PM   #2
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ooo it gets a thread haha, good images you got. Where did you get them from?
I'm glad to see more pictures of what it'll look like and also a birds eye view map of the development.

Heres two articles if anyone wants to read them...


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Ocean Reef marina wins State, tourism support

7th May 2009, 6:15 WST




Tourism industry leaders and the State Government have backed plans for a marina at Ocean Reef, saying it would be a major coastal destination for the metropolitan area that would be a drawcard for locals and visitors.

Joondalup City Council on Tuesday approved an $800 million plan to transform the Ocean Reef boat harbour into a world-class commercial and recreational marina.

PICTURE GALLERY: Ocean Reef Marina

HAVE YOUR SAY: Does WA need another marina?

The proposal includes 850 boat pens, 585 residential dwellings, commercial and retail space, including three five to nine-storey buildings, an artificial reef, children’s water playground, Bondi-style ocean pool and two internal beaches.

The plan, which covers 91ha over land and water, also features an area to berth “super yachts”, a marine museum and markets. It will have 3000 car bays with an underground carpark, 125 short-stay apartments and a four to five-star hotel or resort.

Tourism Council of WA chief executive Graham Moss said yesterday the marina would be a much-needed coastal attraction and the super yacht facilities would tap into a “huge tourism industry”.

Planning Minister John Day said it was “an interesting proposal” that he supported in principle and believed would be successful given the popularity of Hillarys Boat Harbour and growth of the northern suburbs.

But more information was needed before the State, which needed to sign off on extending the existing seabed lease, committed to a memorandum of understanding with Joondalup.

Joondalup mayor Troy Pickard said the project would probably be funded by the private sector with land sold to fund initial capital investment.

Mr Pickard said the project was fairly on the mark with community expectations and after public comment and another 18 to 24 months of detailed planning he believed most of the marina could be built in five to 10 years.

It would be strategically developed to ensure the city, which owned 50 per cent of the land, did not have to go to State or Federal governments asking for hundreds of millions of dollars.

“We’ve pitched it so that it can wipe its own nose,” he said

Boating WA president Bruce Barnett said with 45,000 vessels in Perth a new marina was long overdue.

But Joondalup Community Coast Care Forum’s Marjorie Apthorpe said the project would leave a massive footprint on the environment and wipe out part of a Bush Forever site, which was a feeding ground for the Carnaby’s black cockatoo.

Ocean Reef Progress Association committee member George Shaw said a survey of 5500 residents showed overwhelming support.

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Same thing, but this is a different picture and the article from today west.
(sorry if its too big, I did it the size it is so people can read it)

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Old May 9th, 2009, 04:42 PM   #3
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What a bunch of morons, a reserve "Island" that small and that remote would contain just native birds, that of which they would not "Rely" heavily on this site for survival, no other animals other than birds would use such a site to live.
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But native birds are still important. Carnaby's and the like can halt site clearing. And (without knowing the site) there could be flora involved too.
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Old May 9th, 2009, 06:30 PM   #5
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im scared this is going to make near by beach mullaloo in to the next trigg!
i would hate it to turn out like that, it's such a great local beach and now it might be over crowded with people!
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Old May 10th, 2009, 02:47 AM   #6
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yeah such a shame a public beach to get used by the public. If I had my way beaches would be restricted only to the viewing pleasure of those living there.
As we speak I've sent in a letter to my council to cordon off my street. I don't want rif raf using MY local shops on MY street. The other day my LOCAL supermarket had ran out of bananas. Bloody tresspassers how dare they buy MY bananas.

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Old May 10th, 2009, 09:03 AM   #7
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this is better than that monty python-esque northport quay

although i would of liked that 9 level building to be a little taller ie 11 levels to make it the centrepiece of the development... but all in all i like it...
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Old May 10th, 2009, 09:56 AM   #8
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How is this better than the North Port Quay proposal? Other than that one is on reclaimed (dead) seabed, they both do much the same thing imho.
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Old May 10th, 2009, 11:45 AM   #9
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How is this better than the North Port Quay proposal? Other than that one is on reclaimed (dead) seabed, they both do much the same thing imho.
this one is feasible, and is realistic. something Perth will actually build and accept
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Old May 10th, 2009, 12:15 PM   #10
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im scared this is going to make near by beach mullaloo in to the next trigg!
i would hate it to turn out like that, it's such a great local beach and now it might be over crowded with people!
That is something you're going to have to quickly accept.

The beach is everyones, not just those who live in the particular suburb.
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Old May 10th, 2009, 12:46 PM   #11
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im scared this is going to make near by beach mullaloo in to the next trigg!
i would hate it to turn out like that, it's such a great local beach and now it might be over crowded with people!
oh wow. next thing you will want to need local permits to park at the beach, and if not, pay for parking?
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Old May 10th, 2009, 12:55 PM   #12
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You can't claim to own your suburb's beach, but I understand the frustration of when a peaceful spot becomes used by the masses. I like my beaches to be quiet and not full of people to get full enjoyment from them

Interesting development too, given they are proposing 9 level buildings 25km from Perth (pity about the shit PT). Not sure how much tourism can be milked with Hillarys so close but like the apartments along the beach idea, should be expanded although this isn't as how I envisioned it.

Before someone asks "dear uncle L2, how would you do it", I'd like to see a few genuinely decent suburbs along the coast with your typical kind of strip shops/cafes/restaurants and apartment blocks looking over the sea, rather than a marina/boat harbour kind of place. Just my 2c
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Old May 10th, 2009, 01:44 PM   #13
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im scared this is going to make near by beach mullaloo in to the next trigg!
i would hate it to turn out like that, it's such a great local beach and now it might be over crowded with people!

thats it aye. they already ruined the mullaloo hotel by making outsiders want to come here, now they wanna do so with the beach? why cant they just sprawl further up the coast instead of inland so that people can use their own local beaches?
i remember seeing someone in mullaloo the other day and the cunt had footwear on. it was obvious he wasnt from around here so i told him fuck off we were full

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Old May 10th, 2009, 01:54 PM   #14
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dancing carrot worthy Sanj.
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Old May 10th, 2009, 01:56 PM   #15
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haha why thank u. ive had a few kir royals as well as vinos so that flowed quite easily

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thats it aye. they already ruined the mullaloo hotel by making outsiders want to come here, now they wanna do so with the beach? why cant they just sprawl further up the coast instead of inland so that people can use their own local beaches?
i remember seeing someone in mullaloo the other day and the cunt had footwear on. it was obvious he wasnt from around here so i told him fuck off we were full

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hahaha.

I would however like to point out that I live in Mullaloo and make a point of always wearing footwear.
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Old May 10th, 2009, 04:00 PM   #17
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thats it aye. they already ruined the mullaloo hotel by making outsiders want to come here, now they wanna do so with the beach? why cant they just sprawl further up the coast instead of inland so that people can use their own local beaches?
i remember seeing someone in mullaloo the other day and the cunt had footwear on. it was obvious he wasnt from around here so i told him fuck off we were full

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ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Old May 11th, 2009, 12:15 AM   #18
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thats it aye. they already ruined the mullaloo hotel by making outsiders want to come here, now they wanna do so with the beach? why cant they just sprawl further up the coast instead of inland so that people can use their own local beaches?
i remember seeing someone in mullaloo the other day and the cunt had footwear on. it was obvious he wasnt from around here so i told him fuck off we were full
hahaha. It's depressing to see all the one story houses built right on the house at Mindarie Keys just recently. I agree with L2's comment about "strip style" development. I'd love to see Cottesloe and Scarborough develop in this way but alas this discussion has been had many times
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Old May 11th, 2009, 03:58 AM   #19
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this one is feasible, and is realistic. something Perth will actually build and accept
That isn't quite true. It's true Carpenter (and approximately half the SSC forummers along with lesbian greenies) were against this project, but the majority of the general public were actually FOR this proposal, which is still on the cards I might add.
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That isn't quite true. It's true Carpenter (and approximately half the SSC forummers along with lesbian greenies) were against this project, but the majority of the general public were actually FOR this proposal, which is still on the cards I might add.
it is just not Perth, wont go ahead. As for this. It is more Perth as it is simply a realistic project.

N Port Quay is like a concept car for Perth.
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