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Old November 17th, 2017, 04:25 PM   #2861
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So these airshows aren't just formality and actual decisions are taken at them?
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Old November 17th, 2017, 04:48 PM   #2862
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https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/opinion-airbus-emirates-face-off-over-a380-impasse-443384/

Here's more insight behind the EK Airbus A380 issue.
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Old November 17th, 2017, 07:26 PM   #2863
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Qatar Airways to launch 4 weekly flights to Thessaloniki starting 27th March
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Old November 17th, 2017, 08:06 PM   #2864
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QR is becoming like TK, trying to 'conquer' every cities in the world
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Old November 17th, 2017, 09:25 PM   #2865
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They lost access to 18 popular destinations, around 20% of their total network...Saudi, UAE, Bahrain, and Egypt airports...

They probably had more flights between Doha and Dubai than there were bus services between Dubai and Sharjah...

The expansion has been their attempt to show their rivals that they could care less about their losses and will keep pumping in more money....

For once, Etihad and Qatar are not copying each other and have divergent business models!!
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Old November 19th, 2017, 02:44 AM   #2866
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I've got to hand it to them for expanding during tough times. Its a smart but very risky policy. But I highly doubt QR cares about profits...at least as long as Qatar keeps pumping that natural gas.

Qatar in a way has been copying EY with the stakes they've bought, but unlike EY, they've bought airlines that are healthy and not going out of business. And also unlike EY, they aren't forcing their new partners to use DOH as a transfer hub.
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Old November 19th, 2017, 08:22 AM   #2867
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QR B788 MAN-CCU via DOH

Flight reports from the end of last year.

QR28 MAN-DOH, middle seat


QR540 DOH-CCU, 17hr layover in Doha
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Old November 28th, 2017, 08:33 PM   #2868
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According to FlightRadar24 today, apparently some of the UAE-carriers, especially EK and FZ have started using Iraqi airspace after 3-year-ban for flights between DXB and Europe. I suppose slowly all other Gulf airlines will resume using the Iraqi airspace route between Gulf-Europe as that area is thankfully cleared of the threats from those terrorists.
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Old November 28th, 2017, 08:41 PM   #2869
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Emirates will introduce the A380 on the 3rd daily flight making Frankfurt all-A380 from 1st January.

Etihad will reduce Kozhikode to 3 daily starting December and will cancel Jaipur by March. Geneva will be upgraded to a B789 from 25th March.
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Old November 29th, 2017, 08:32 PM   #2870
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Okay seriously what is going on with Etihad recently? Why are they performing so poorly compared to EK or QR?
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Emirates will introduce the A380 on the 3rd daily flight making Frankfurt all-A380 from 1st January.

Etihad will reduce Kozhikode to 3 daily starting December and will cancel Jaipur by March. Geneva will be upgraded to a B789 from 25th March.
I always thought Etihad's 4 flights a day to Kozhikode was an overkill.... but what is shocking is it is the market with the highest point to point demand between UAE and India and no Dubai based carrier flies there (Emirates left owing to issues arising from its runway length)!!

Another interesting stat is that Kozhikode (CCJ) has flights to more destinations in UAE than any other airport in the world!! AUH, DXB, SHJ, RKT and AAN....
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Old November 30th, 2017, 01:21 AM   #2872
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Senate bill includes a new tax on some foreign carriers that compete with U.S. airlines

"Under current international agreements, most foreign carriers pay no taxes on gross income they earn when they fly into the U.S. In exchange, U.S. carriers get the same treatment when they fly into most foreign airports. Airlines that fly abroad still pay landing fees and other charges for the right to land in foreign airports.

The provision introduced by Isakson would break that agreement by imposing a corporate tax rate on foreign carriers whose home country doesnt have a tax treaty with the U.S. and isnt served by an American carrier at least twice a week.

Aviation experts who have studied the Isakson provision say it would affect airlines from at least 11 countries and territories, in addition to the three Gulf carriers."

Source: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...128-story.html
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Old November 30th, 2017, 06:15 AM   #2873
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Interesting that now, none of US3 flies to Dubai, and was it just recently that the last operator stopped flying there (was it DL?)? Did they see this coming?

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“Foreign airlines should not receive preferential tax treatment if their countries choose not to open their markets to U.S. companies,” he said.
I thought the pullout of US3 from DXB is voluntary?

Meanwhile, Emirates is infusing more US jobs by ordering the 787s on top of its existing 777 orders.
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Old November 30th, 2017, 08:04 PM   #2874
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The lawmaker trying to get this passed is from Atlanta, home of Delta... am sure the US3 are lobbying hard to get this through!!
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Old December 3rd, 2017, 06:05 AM   #2875
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Interesting that now, none of US3 flies to Dubai, and was it just recently that the last operator stopped flying there (was it DL?)? Did they see this coming?

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I thought the pullout of US3 from DXB is voluntary?

Meanwhile, Emirates is infusing more US jobs by ordering the 787s on top of its existing 777 orders.
DL and UA pulled out of DXB because they claimed they couldn't compete with EK, and needed to prove there was no traffic between the UAE and America - not necessarily true. However, this hasn't really benefited them because nothing has come about their spat with the ME3.
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Old December 3rd, 2017, 07:09 AM   #2876
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None of the US carriers can survive based on a DXB flight alone if they can't connect people out to other places, such as India. DXB is not an o&d place and relies on connections to survive.
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Old December 3rd, 2017, 08:38 AM   #2877
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Here we go! The first customer A350-1000 (MSN88, A7-ANA) for @qatarairways has done its first engine run. Rejected takeoff and first flight should follow next week - delivery is planned for the end of December. by Eurospot



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Old December 3rd, 2017, 11:51 PM   #2878
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None of the US carriers can survive based on a DXB flight alone if they can't connect people out to other places, such as India. DXB is not an o&d place and relies on connections to survive.
Well...I wouldn't write of DXB just like that.

DXB has approximately 35%-40% O&D traffic. The city receives 15m tourists every year, and on top of this, has a very high percentage of expats, so it's still a large market. Local traffic to the US is much less (I believe EK's US destinations only average 20% O&D traffic), but traffic to regional destinations is very strong, and many European and Asian destinations also have a size-able amount of O&D.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 12:06 AM   #2879
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The lawmaker trying to get this passed is from Atlanta, home of Delta... am sure the US3 are lobbying hard to get this through!!
Looks like it's been rejected!

I doubt this would have had any affect on QR's expansion plans in the US though
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The 3 US airlines could fly to Abu Dhabi or Dubai from their hubs and tie up with the UAE airlines and easily come up with full flights!! Both the airlines have extensive Middle East, North/Central Africa and Asian networks. Qatar not anymore as they lost a lot of their regional connectivity!!

Dubai's has the huge scale and a bigger network advantage over Abu Dhabi while Abu Dhabi has the US Customs and border patrol clearance advantage over Dubai... Any airline flying non-stop from Abu Dhabi to a point in the US can avail that facility at the expense of the Abu Dhabi Govt...!!
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