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Old August 1st, 2013, 11:47 AM   #1121
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Why would FZ source second hand 332s when they're parent company EK already own over 23 of them which are currently being phased out. This won't happen because they would of already gone to FZ.

FZ will go will new efficient airframes.
Yeah, I dont really see FD using secondhand, goes against their business model.
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Old August 1st, 2013, 11:56 AM   #1122
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Good Point- There is also a lot of talk about FD Trans-Atlantic Flights from the UK, So all this would tie In.

They are still more connected to EK than many people realise.
It's EK that are hinting on Trans-Atlantic flights and for starters Manchester could be the starting hub. Actually Dubai-Milan-JFK are already announced.

Of course Emirates and FlyDubai are connected in many ways from the same owners, pilot training, cargo cooperation, maintenance, etc, etc.
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Old August 1st, 2013, 11:59 AM   #1123
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Yeah, I dont really see FD using secondhand, goes against their business model.
They have also phased out a number of 343s which could of easily gone to FZ the same day.

They have some thing up they're sleeve, let's wait and see.
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Old August 1st, 2013, 12:00 PM   #1124
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It's EK that are hinting on Trans-Atlantic flights and for starters Manchester could be the starting hub. Actually Dubai-Milan-JFK are already announced.

Of course Emirates and FlyDubai are connected in many ways from the same owners, pilot training, cargo cooperation, maintenance, etc, etc.
FD are also hinting but from a Gatwick base
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Old August 1st, 2013, 12:58 PM   #1125
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Old August 1st, 2013, 05:45 PM   #1126
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RAK and Flydubai cleared to fly to the UK


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RAK Airways and Flydubai have been given the right to operate scheduled services on routes between the UAE and the UK for the first time thanks to a revision of the two countries bilateral air service agreements.
Under a memorandum of understanding (MoU) signed in London in February, the UAE's General Civil Aviation Authority (GCAA) and the UK Department of Transport, granted additional rights for the two regional carriers to operate between the UK and UAE, and fifth freedom rights to operate to intermediate points beyond the UAE in Europe, including Frankfurt, Zurich, Rome, Amsterdam and Geneva.

The carriers will also be given the right to operate from the UK to intermediate points including Munich, Cologne, Paris, Zurich, Vienna and Athens.

The revised Air Service Agreement also reaffirmed the same rights for Emirates, Etihad and Air Arabia, Virgin Atlantic, British Airways, bmi and DHL. The designations for the defunct carriers Silverjet and UK International Airlines were cancelled.

The revised agreement was announced in February but it was not made clear at the time which carriers had been designated operating rights.
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Old August 1st, 2013, 06:22 PM   #1127
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Old August 1st, 2013, 08:41 PM   #1128
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Love the livery. Good luck to them.
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Old August 2nd, 2013, 04:43 PM   #1129
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Old August 2nd, 2013, 09:15 PM   #1130
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AirSerbia's new livery looks pretty simple, but the logo truly holds a lot of class. Hopefully, that logo will bring inspiration and joy for Serbia and its people as it readies to fly to many places in Europe, the Middle East, and beyond. Perhaps, that logo could be called as unique and harmonious indeed.

Going back to Emirates' second Amsterdam flight... The schedule:

EK147 DXB0820 – 1240AMS 388 D
EK149 DXB1610 – 2040AMS 77L D

EK148 AMS1440 – 0015+1DXB 388 D
EK150 AMS2210 – 0740+1DXB 77L D

EK149/150 will start service on 4 December 2013.

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Old August 6th, 2013, 08:31 AM   #1132
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Old August 6th, 2013, 12:06 PM   #1133
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Regarding Flydubai

There is a hudge potential for a medium-long haul low fare airline from Dubai IMHO. Two major problems I can see are the price of new 787/350's and 'interfering' with EK. HHSM will not allow EK to be hurt by a competitor he effectively controls.

But if FDB doesn't do it, someone else will fill the void and all will bypass Dubai. Look at Norwegian with a 787 base in BKK.

On the other side Ukraine International is now operating the 739ER with two aux fuel tanks installed (iso B763), with a 20/159 seating layout, on BPK-BKK, a 4611nm mission. That could be an option to avoid the 787/350 investment and do that as an alternative.
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Old August 6th, 2013, 02:58 PM   #1134
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FZ may well get 787's in the future but I think the reality at the moment is its too big a step up from the 737-800.

As someone has already mentioned the best aircraft fit for FZ currently is a 757 so there is more chance of them ordering 737-900ER's (which they already have options for) and will get delivery dates a lot sooner than any 787.

I'm not clever enough to do the sums but the 737-900ER's are being used to replace 757-200's at Delta so I assume they have the legs

Legs or not, to be quite honest and not intending any punt against our colleagues at FD, the actual situation at DXB would rather need the 737s and 320s be sent to Sahrjah or Makhtoum.

The whale already slows down the hourly frequency of dep/ldg with the increased separation, so the light twins, with another minute more, are even more anachronistic in the screwed up layout of DXB.

If it is inevitable that FD stays at DXB, every logic would point out to a Makhtoum ops but logic is the big absent in UAE aviation, then a switch to 757/787/330 would be more than welcome.
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Old August 7th, 2013, 08:07 AM   #1135
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Etihad plans more partnerships as it pencils in double-digit growth

SYDNEY, Aug 7 (Reuters) - Etihad Airways, which has aggressively expanded its global reach through codeshares and minority stake investments, expects to build alliances in China and the Americas as the Abu Dhabi-based carrier targets more double-digit growth in the years ahead.

"We will continue to work with other airlines to broaden our network," said Etihad CEO James Hogan on the sidelines of the Australia Pacific Aviation Summit in Sydney on Wednesday. "With China, we need to build (a partnership). South America and America, we need to build (a partnership)."

Etihad has been nurturing its international network over the past 10 years as it competes with regional rivals Emirates Airline and Qatar Airways. Etihad, whose annual net profit tripled in 2012, holds stakes in Virgin Australia , Air Berlin, Aer Lingus and Air Seychelles.

Etihad is awaiting final regulatory approval for its planned $379 million stake purchase in India's Jet Airways.

The state-backed carrier said last week that it plans to buy a 49 percent stake in Serbia's loss-making JAT Airways.

"We continue to see double-digit growth as we look over the horizon," Hogan said.
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A380 services, increased Virgin stake highlight Etihad’s Australian plans

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Etihad Airways chief executive James Hogan has revealed plans for a significant expansion of his Abu Dhabi-based airline’s presence in Australia, including A380 services to Sydney and Melbourne, new airport lounges, and plans to increase its stake in Virgin Australia to almost 20 per cent.

Hogan outlined the plans at the CAPA Australia Pacific Aviation Summit in Sydney today. As well as A380 flights to Sydney and Melbourne, Etihad will also add additional flights from Melbourne and Brisbane to Abu Dhabi, commence nonstop Perth-Abu Dhabi flights, and build premium airport lounges at Sydney and Melbourne from 2014.
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Old August 7th, 2013, 02:34 PM   #1137
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OK I can see Etihad partnering up with Delta in the United States, but who would they potentially partner up with in China and South America?
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The main problem that Etihad now have is that Abu Dhabi Airport is getting very overcrowded but the new terminal is years and years away. EY need to pursuade the Abu Dhabi Government to expand the existing airport for the short term expansion, probably via additional piers at the end of T3 or a new 'shed' type terminal for all carriers apart from EY which would allow EY to effectively merge T1 and T3 as opposed to the ineffective way they are linked at the moment.

Abu Dhabi is going to end up like the existing (dreadful) Doha Airport if they are not careful.
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OK I can see Etihad partnering up with Delta in the United States, but who would they potentially partner up with in China and South America?
If they want to stick with skyteam members. In China you have China Eastern and China Southern are your two largest Skyteam members. In South America they should go with GOL. There are no major Skyteam members unless you want to partner with Aerolineas Argentina. I would stick with GOL because they have the next best chance of being in Skyteam and Delta Airlines has a partnership with GOL already. TAM is with LAN and oneworld and I don't think Etihad wants to go with them. Who knows.
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Old August 9th, 2013, 08:02 AM   #1140
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Why can't FlyDubai take EK's older A330s as they are removed from the fleet? FD could use them on tightly-defined routes to complement the EK network. The A330 know-how and infrastructure already exists at DXB and it could be leveraged.Selling the EK 330s to FlyDubai would be a quick and convenient way for EK to off load the aircraft it is planning to drop anyway. They already have lots of upgrades like CPDLC and brake fans. all they need to do is repaint them. some are already being parked on the E gates so its an easy transition.
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