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Old November 19th, 2013, 06:30 AM   #1381
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They could have done some expansion to Indonesian market in the same manner as what they have done in India.
So far, the only Middle Eastern carriers who regularly flew to Indonesian destination other than Jakarta is Qatar Airways, who flew to Denpasar, Bali, on daily basis.

I was wondering why the likes of Emirates or Etihad doesn't fly to Bali?

And the other city who also have potential is Surabaya.
My guess is that Jakarta is a larger market than Denpasar or Surabaya, and that Emirates and Etihad seem to cater more towards premium clientele than Qatar is (just my take)... and by the way, Surabaya deserves to have a flight to and from Dubai or Abu Dhabi to complement services with Jakarta. I wonder though if any of the three carriers will actually be interested in doing that route to start with...
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Old November 19th, 2013, 07:19 AM   #1382
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The Qatar route between Doha-Singapore-Bali is good, Business class is only $300 between Bali and Singapore!
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Old November 19th, 2013, 08:54 AM   #1383
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Will any of them launch direct Kota Kinabalu & Penang flights soon ? With such huge orders
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Old November 19th, 2013, 09:07 AM   #1384
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Will any of them launch direct Kota Kinabalu & Penang flights soon ? With such huge orders
eh? you live in Dubai now?
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Old November 19th, 2013, 09:44 AM   #1385
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Does anyone thing EK has overdone it with the newest A380 order? 50 A380s is a gigantic increase in seat capacity.
I mean, I understand the B77X orders since those will replace all the current B77W's which total around 90 aircraft + 61 on order. Plus those won't start arriving till after 2020. But 140 A380's in the fleet is way too large. Consider that the A350s will begin arriving in the next few years as well.
I can't help but think that EK has begun to become way to over confident and I fear that just like Dubai in 2008, the bubble will burst and EK will begin its downfall. I really hope that doesn't happen since I'm a big fan of EK, but EKs confidence and arrogance reminds me of Dubai's in 2008 and look what happened... Hopefully EK proves me wrong though.

At least I'm happy Airbus can say the A380 was not a failure (mainly thanks to EK).
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Old November 19th, 2013, 09:55 AM   #1386
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So with such HUGE orders from the Big Middle Eastern 4 (flydubai included) on Day 1, how come no more big announcements on day 2 and 3?

Are we still in for any more Major Surprise Announcements today to End The Dubai Airshow off with a BANG? !!!
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Old November 19th, 2013, 10:01 AM   #1387
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So with such HUGE orders from the Big Middle Eastern 4 (flydubai included) on Day 1, how come no more big announcements on day 2 and 3?

Are we still in for any more Major Surprise Announcements today to End The Dubai Airshow off with a BANG? !!!
I don't think so. THE ME3 made all their orders and those were the only airlines expected to make orders. Cathay was rumored but I doubt they'd order in Dubai.
I think we can still expect a military aircraft order though.
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Old November 19th, 2013, 10:41 AM   #1388
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My guess is that Jakarta is a larger market than Denpasar or Surabaya, and that Emirates and Etihad seem to cater more towards premium clientele than Qatar is (just my take)... and by the way, Surabaya deserves to have a flight to and from Dubai or Abu Dhabi to complement services with Jakarta. I wonder though if any of the three carriers will actually be interested in doing that route to start with...
Jakarta is already a well established (if not saturated) market. In fact the government should allow more foreign airlines to fly cities other than Jakarta because the airport is already congested. Read this link for the detail:

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2...-ministry.html

I believe if Emirates, Qatar, and Etihad could enter Surabaya, their market will be pretty much similar with those of Cathay Pacific (who already enter Surabaya since 1993): migrant workers in Saudi Arabia, Europe, and America; businesspeople, or students who wants to travel from Surabaya to Europe or America with the airline. And in fact some years ago Qatar airways did intend to open route from Qatar to Surabaya, although it has yet to materialize....

I was told that the hindrance have something to do with "protectionism" move towards Garuda. They don't want those popular airlines to steal Garuda's fragile long haul market.
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Old November 19th, 2013, 10:48 AM   #1389
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Old November 19th, 2013, 05:00 PM   #1390
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Air Serbia’s $1bn Fleet Expansion ‘Part Of Etihad Order’
The carrier ordered 10 A320neos at the Dubai Airshow which are due to be delivered between 2018 and 2020.



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Old November 23rd, 2013, 03:01 AM   #1391
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Dubai Air Wing B747-422 (A6-MMM) departing Singapore for Dubai.
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Old November 24th, 2013, 06:12 PM   #1392
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Qatar Airways to launch flights to Prague Airport, Amsterdam Schiphol and Rio de Janeiro



anna.aero has learnt that Rio de Janeiro will also be served by Qatar Airways next year, along with Amsterdam and Prague. Rio comes just in time for next year’s World Cup in Brazil – Qatar hosts the World Cup in 2022. (Apologies to 1930s Pan Am.)

http://www.anna.aero/2013/11/20/qata...io-de-janeiro/
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Old November 25th, 2013, 12:17 AM   #1393
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Emirates introduces Airbus A340-500 on Algiers route

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Emirates, a global connector of people and places, strengthens its commitment to Algeria by introducing the Airbus A340-500 on the Dubai-Algiers route, commencing Dec. 1.

Boosting seat capacity by nearly 10 percent and offering an enhanced cabin product, Emirates’ Airbus A340-500 will replace the current A330-200 operating on flights EK757 and EK758.

“The upgrade of our Algiers service to an Airbus A340-500 is a clear marker of the route’s success since its launch less than one year ago, highlighting the strong growth potential of this destination,” said Adil Al-Ghaith, VP commercial operations for northern and western Africa. “Offering the highest standards of passenger comfort, our customers traveling to and from Algiers will now be able to enjoy the added in-flight features offered by this aircraft, including the private First Class suites and extended inflight entertainment options in all classes.”

Since its launch in March this year, Emirates has carried over 73,000 passengers between Dubai and Algiers, boosting international tourism to the capital of Algeria from destinations in the Middle East, Asian Subcontinent, Far East and Australasia.

The new aircraft has 258 seats in a three-class configuration offering 12 luxurious First Class suites, 42 seats in Business Class and generous space for 204 passengers in Economy Class.

First Class passengers will experience Emirates’ ergonomically-designed First Class suites, featuring privacy screens for maximum exclusivity and massage-enabled seats which convert into flat beds, while Business Class customers will enjoy the comfort of angled lie-flat beds.

Emirates also offers passengers very generous baggage allowances of 50 kg in First Class, 40 kg in Business Class, and 30 kg in Economy Class.
Emirates currently operates 208 aircraft to 137 destinations, including the world’s largest Boeing 777 and Airbus A380 fleet.
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Old November 25th, 2013, 11:42 AM   #1394
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Etihad Airways Airbus A320-232
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Old November 25th, 2013, 06:14 PM   #1395
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It amazes me that Emirates can fly an 777 or A380 to a destination and then Etihad and Qatar can only manage an A330 at best to the same destination. Prime example shown in the picture. Emirates 777 by the Asiana 777 and then you see the Etihad A320-200.
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Old November 25th, 2013, 10:50 PM   #1396
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It amazes me that Emirates can fly an 777 or A380 to a destination and then Etihad and Qatar can only manage an A330 at best to the same destination. Prime example shown in the picture. Emirates 777 by the Asiana 777 and then you see the Etihad A320-200.
Emirates has a larger fleet, more destinations, and more/bigger departure and arrival banks than the other two. So they have more passengers than QR and EY for the same routes, which is why they use larger aircraft. Personally I prefer EY and QR's strategy since if they need to increase capacity then they can just add more frequencies. Also they can use the smaller narrow body aircraft to fly to small markets. EK can't do that with large B77Ws. The smallest aircraft in EK's fleet is the A330-200 which has a capacity of 237 seats so its not that small.
I'm sure in a few years when QR and EY grow more, they will start flying larger aircraft to all their current destinations.
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Old November 26th, 2013, 01:31 AM   #1397
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Emirates has changed the equipment to Phuket!!!!!

Soon B77W....bye bye A343
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Old November 26th, 2013, 10:55 AM   #1398
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Emirates has a larger fleet, more destinations, and more/bigger departure and arrival banks than the other two. So they have more passengers than QR and EY for the same routes, which is why they use larger aircraft. Personally I prefer EY and QR's strategy since if they need to increase capacity then they can just add more frequencies. Also they can use the smaller narrow body aircraft to fly to small markets. EK can't do that with large B77Ws. The smallest aircraft in EK's fleet is the A330-200 which has a capacity of 237 seats so its not that small.
I'm sure in a few years when QR and EY grow more, they will start flying larger aircraft to all their current destinations.
Lets not forget both EY & QR aren't reliant on their own metal to feed their network, they are reliant of their interline agreements & alliances.
EK on the other hand don't rely heavily on feed from their partners therefore rely on EK passengers only therefore operate larger aircraft.
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Larger aircraft and more passengers doesn't automatically mean more profit, even though in this case that does seem to be the case.

But nevertheless, we can't expect to have these 3 companies doing exactly the same thing as Emirates and all be a success. They have different strategies and all are a success in their own way.

And all 3 have a massive number of large planes on order, especially after last weeks airshow. Showing that they are all growing rapidly and that all will have enough big planes to serve many airports.
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Larger aircraft and more passengers doesn't automatically mean more profit, even though in this case that does seem to be the case. But nevertheless, we can't expect to have these 3 companies doing exactly the same thing as Emirates and all be a success. They have different strategies and all are a success in their own way.
I agree larger aircraft don't equal more profits. The strategy of EY/QR vs EK are totally different. QR feed their bank of flights utilising their Oneworld partners & EY on AB/KL/AF/GA/VA whilst EK ain't part of any alliance with the exception of QF (QF need EK to serve their European passengers). Therefore EK need to provide the capacity opposed to a narrow body or aircraft suitable for that particular route.
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