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Old December 18th, 2014, 09:41 AM   #1921
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So there is little to no chance that Emirates will order the A330NEO anytime soon? Remember that it also serves routes with lower demand, but require larger aircraft than FlyDubai's B737-800...
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Old December 18th, 2014, 03:25 PM   #1922
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The front runner has to be the 787-10. Y is also the perfict fit for 9 abreast seating. The XWB had shot it self in the foot with the extra width cause 10 abreast seating in Y will be to cramped.

The only thing the 330NEO has going for it is the price, but I'm sure Boeing will give EK a sweet deal just to seal the deal, and let's not forget discounts on EK's massive orders.

The Dresmlinet engine cores will also have a lot in common with the 777's so that's additional savings when it comes to maintenance.
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Old December 18th, 2014, 08:12 PM   #1923
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EK fleet

Guys, lets stop guessing about with which aircraft EK plans to replace the A332. According to sources, all 21 A332s, 4 A343s, and 5 A345s will be retired before 2017. Boeing 777-8X and B777-9X deliveries will begin by 2020. By this time, they will receive the other B77W and A380 aircraft pending delivery. As of yet, there is no other plans to order any other aircraft from EK, neither any reports of which aircraft will replace the A332s etc...many are saying it plans to be an all 777 and A380 airliner so let's wait and see
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Old December 18th, 2014, 09:09 PM   #1924
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True. But, the B777 might be too big of an aircraft for some markets. Wouldn't it be good to have a smaller wide-body that can be agile and more flexible to go to places that see smaller passenger loads than an aircraft that can carry like 300? I mean, not every flight will be filled to capacity, but it does not mean it cannot be flexible with aircraft deployment...
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Old December 18th, 2014, 09:19 PM   #1925
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EK fleet

Guys, lets stop guessing about with which aircraft EK plans to replace the A332. According to sources, all 21 A332s, 4 A343s, and 5 A345s will be retired before 2017. Boeing 777-8X and B777-9X deliveries will begin by 2020. By this time, they will receive the other B77W and A380 aircraft pending delivery. As of yet, there is no other plans to order any other aircraft from EK, neither any reports of which aircraft will replace the A332s etc...many are saying it plans to be an all 777 and A380 airliner so let's wait and see
Well, lets wait and see what Emirates will do next year.
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...7-next-404005/

If Tim Clark can speculate in the media about a new order then so can we.
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Old December 18th, 2014, 11:31 PM   #1926
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Old December 18th, 2014, 11:35 PM   #1927
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Old December 19th, 2014, 12:30 AM   #1928
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Well, lets wait and see what Emirates will do next year.
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...7-next-404005/

If Tim Clark can speculate in the media about a new order then so can we.
If EK really goes for one of those options, I hope and it better be the Dreamliner!
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Old December 19th, 2014, 08:01 AM   #1929
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The front runner has to be the 787-10. Y is also the perfict fit for 9 abreast seating. The XWB had shot it self in the foot with the extra width cause 10 abreast seating in Y will be to cramped.

The only thing the 330NEO has going for it is the price, but I'm sure Boeing will give EK a sweet deal just to seal the deal, and let's not forget discounts on EK's massive orders.

The Dresmlinet engine cores will also have a lot in common with the 777's so that's additional savings when it comes to maintenance.
The 787-10 is too big for regional flights though. Its range is not an advantage, and its delivery dates are not till after 2020. And since the B787 is already such a popular aircraft, I doubt Boeing will give very big discounts.

The A330NEO is a new aircraft, Airbus will be willing to offer large discounts, and it has the range and capacity that EK would want.
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Old December 19th, 2014, 08:14 AM   #1930
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Three's a Charm: Etihad Unveils Airbus A380, Boeing 787-9, and New Uniforms

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The rule of three is a writing concept that suggests things are more satisfying when presented in groups of three. Abu Dhabi-based Etihad must have taken this to heart when planning their big reveal today, as they've not only gone ahead and welcomed their first superjumbo Airbus A380, but also thrown in a new Boeing 787-9, and a complete revamp of the crew uniforms.

The big advancements here are Economy seats with fixed headrests (supposedly covered in locally sourced camel leather) for easier napping for both airplanes, and brand new premium classes. The A380 is the show-stopper, with the "Business Studio" and "First Apartment" seats adopting a residential elegance that has a good chance of making passengers forget they're even on a plane. And there's no ignoring the Etihad Residence, a private jet cabin within a superjumbo, for a First Class above First.

Journalist John Walton, a friend of Jaunted, is in Abu Dhabi for the Etihad press events and has been tweeting up a storm, finally offering first-person images of the interiors after the months we've been left to drool over only the renderings.
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Old December 19th, 2014, 08:16 AM   #1931
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Old December 19th, 2014, 08:20 AM   #1932
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Old December 19th, 2014, 10:01 AM   #1934
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The 787-10 is too big for regional flights though. Its range is not an advantage, and its delivery dates are not till after 2020. And since the B787 is already such a popular aircraft, I doubt Boeing will give very big discounts.

The A330NEO is a new aircraft, Airbus will be willing to offer large discounts, and it has the range and capacity that EK would want.
Your claims about the 787 are not really how Emirates is looking at the airplane.

Emirates goes for larger aircraft, they are on record claiming that the 787-9 is too small. With the size of the 787-10 being larger is will fit better in their fleet. As they will be ordered for regional flights the "limited" range of the 787-10 won't be an issue. The 787-10 will be able to fly to all of Europe, South & SE Asia an a large part of Africa. As for delivery slots, there are plenty available in the timeframe that Emirates expected to take the cancelled A350 order.

As for pricing, Emirates already placed mega orders for the 777X and the A380, making both projects viable. Because of that I'm sure that they will be able to negociate a very sharp deal with both manufacturers. If they go for the 787, the A330neo or back to the A350.
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How about EK ordering the B787-9 so that it can establish longer nonstop flights, if not complement its premium B777-300ERs (with F suites)?
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Up until now, I am wondering why Emirates still not opening route to Bali or Surabaya. They could have utilized their Airbus A330-200 for these routes, had they feel that the occupancy rate is not large enough for Boeing 777.

Why am I defending these routes?
1. For Bali, everyone know that Bali is a hugely popular tourist destination.
2. For Surabaya, there are large amount of migrant workers from East Java who work in Saudi Arabia, so there should be market for Emirates on Surabaya route. Not to mention holiday makers or business people.
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How about EK ordering the B787-9 so that it can establish longer nonstop flights, if not complement its premium B777-300ERs (with F suites)?
They already have the 777-200LR in their fleet, for future long range needs they already have the 777-8X on order. The A380s and the ordered 777-9X also have a range advantage over the 777-300ER (and the 787-9).

This possible new order is specifically for planes for regional routes. The A350-1000 was supposed to be used in this segment, one of the reasons of the cancelation was that Airbus pushed the range of the A350 to make it more interesting as a long range plane. Usually this is something that is possitive for Emirates, see the A380 and the 777X, but in this case the A350 became too much plane (too heavy, too much trust) for a role as a regional plane. So now they are looking for new planes that are optimized for these shorter regional routes. The 787-10 would fit perfectly, but so would the A330neo.
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Up until now, I am wondering why Emirates still not opening route to Bali or Surabaya. They could have utilized their Airbus A330-200 for these routes, had they feel that the occupancy rate is not large enough for Boeing 777.

Why am I defending these routes?
1. For Bali, everyone know that Bali is a hugely popular tourist destination.
2. For Surabaya, there are large amount of migrant workers from East Java who work in Saudi Arabia, so there should be market for Emirates on Surabaya route. Not to mention holiday makers or business people.
Correct me if I am wrong, but Indonesia probably does have some kind of restriction for Middle East carriers flying to a city other than Jakarta. I remember reading something like that when Etihad entered into codeshare with Garuda!!
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Up until now, I am wondering why Emirates still not opening route to Bali or Surabaya. They could have utilized their Airbus A330-200 for these routes, had they feel that the occupancy rate is not large enough for Boeing 777.

Why am I defending these routes?
1. For Bali, everyone know that Bali is a hugely popular tourist destination.
2. For Surabaya, there are large amount of migrant workers from East Java who work in Saudi Arabia, so there should be market for Emirates on Surabaya route. Not to mention holiday makers or business people.
Hmmm... very good question. I can really see the potential for Denpasar, but Surabaya could take some time to mature. It's like me asking Emirates, Qatar, and Etihad when they will launch (in the case of QR, revive) services to Cebu to bypass Manila.
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Etihad Airways B777-200LR (reg. A6-LRE)


Maybe a next step forward for Etihad: perhaps launching more flights to destinations to allow more cities to be served from the UAE (and perhaps complement, if not compete, with Emirates)...
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