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Old December 20th, 2014, 06:46 AM   #1941
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Correct me if I am wrong, but Indonesia probably does have some kind of restriction for Middle East carriers flying to a city other than Jakarta. I remember reading something like that when Etihad entered into codeshare with Garuda!!
Etihad flew to Indonesia (Jakarta) with their own plane. They do have codeshare agreement with Garuda, but it doesn't prevent them from sending their own plane to here.
Saudia and Qatar also serve Indonesian destinations other than Jakarta. Saudia flew to Medan and Surabaya, while Qatar flew to Denpasar, Bali.


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Hmmm... very good question. I can really see the potential for Denpasar, but Surabaya could take some time to mature.
Well they don't have to serve this route on daily basis anyway. Even if they're using their A330 on a three times weekly it should be sufficient.
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Old December 20th, 2014, 08:35 AM   #1942
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More than likely, EK would operate such a route on a daily basis to keep passenger flows moving, especially for business travelers needing to get to their destinations quickly and for leisure travelers to make their journey worthwhile with the fewest delays.
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Old December 20th, 2014, 04:40 PM   #1943
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More than likely, EK would operate such a route on a daily basis to keep passenger flows moving, especially for business travelers needing to get to their destinations quickly and for leisure travelers to make their journey worthwhile with the fewest delays.
I don't think flight frequency is a big issue for leisure travelers. They just go for the cheapest option, not really the direct flights.
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Old December 21st, 2014, 04:28 PM   #1944
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Old December 21st, 2014, 10:24 PM   #1945
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Old December 22nd, 2014, 08:36 AM   #1946
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Let's not forget that EK should receive one more A380 before this year is finished.
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Old December 22nd, 2014, 09:07 AM   #1947
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I don't think flight frequency is a big issue for leisure travelers. They just go for the cheapest option, not really the direct flights.
That's true. But note that if Emirates expands to Denpasar and Surabaya, it can improve connectivity by so much that those passengers may not need to rely on Jakarta to get to and from Dubai...
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Old December 22nd, 2014, 12:15 PM   #1948
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Old December 22nd, 2014, 04:05 PM   #1949
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That's true. But note that if Emirates expands to Denpasar and Surabaya, it can improve connectivity by so much that those passengers may not need to rely on Jakarta to get to and from Dubai...
Yeah I agree.
Between Denpasar and Surabaya, I think Denpasar would be the better option for EK. But it all depends on the UAE- Indonesia bilateral.
Currently there is an allowance for 42 weekly flights between UAE and Indonesia using any aircraft. And I think both EY and EK each fly 3 times daily to Jakarta. So until there are new negotiations on increasing flights, there won't be any new Indonesian destinations. Otherwise if it was allowed, I'm sure EK would have started Denpasar or Surabaya by now.
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Old December 22nd, 2014, 10:27 PM   #1950
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Emirates 3rd daily from BHX (Birmingham, UK)

Emirates, a global connector of people, places and economies, has announced a third daily service from Birmingham Airport to Dubai, becoming the first airline to offer a direct First Class service to the region.

Commencing Saturday 1st August 2015, Emirates flight EK41 will depart Dubai International Airport at 0235hrs and arrive in Birmingham at 0705hrs. The outbound flight EK42 will depart Birmingham Airport at 0910hrs and arrive in Dubai at 1910hrs, well-timed for a good night’s sleep and a fresh start in the city the following day. The additional service adds seven more inbound flights a week to Dubai for Birmingham, increasing passenger and cargo capacity on the route by 50 percent.

“Dubai has proven to be an increasingly strong market for leisure and business travellers residing in the West Midlands. The additional daily flight to Dubai from Birmingham will give our customers greater flexibility in their travel plans, departing from their local airport. Customers can experience the ease of flying to Dubai and connect seamlessly to other flights on Emirates’ extensive network such as East Asia,” said Hubert Frach, Emirates’ Divisional Senior Vice President, Commercial Operations West. “As part of our continued commitment, we’re excited to become the first airline offering First Class to the region.

Emirates started flying from Birmingham to Dubai in December 2000 when it launched the route with a daily non-stop service, operated by a 278-seat Airbus A330. Over its 14 year history at Birmingham, Emirates has carried 4.9 million passengers. Passengers flying from the Midlands can travel to Dubai and beyond, to an ever expanding global network. Popular destinations from Birmingham include Australia, India, Singapore, Bangkok and Hong Kong.

Paul Kehoe, Birmingham Airport CEO, said: “Emirates’ decision to add a third daily service to Dubai and beyond from Birmingham Airport clearly shows the strong demand that exists in the city and the region for passengers who want connectivity to Dubai, Asia and Australia.

“Since the carrier began flying from Birmingham 14 years ago, passengers have been telling us how much they value the route and the excellent service they receive, so today’s announcement is great news for everyone. In addition to increased frequency, this new third service will operate on a three class Boeing 777-300ER, meaning passengers will be able to experience their excellent first class suites, the first time it has been offered on this route.”

The seven new flights a week will be operated with a Boeing 777-300ER aircraft in a three class configuration. The added capacity provides 56 First Class, 294 Business Class and 2170 Economy Class seats each way per week on the route, as well as 23 tonnes of additional capacity for cargo per flight.
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Old December 23rd, 2014, 02:19 PM   #1951
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Old December 23rd, 2014, 02:28 PM   #1952
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CAPA: Emirates Airline to make the United States its third largest source of revenue

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After a few years of quiet operations, Gulf carriers appear to have finally caught the radar of US airlines, which are urging their government to re-consider its approach to open skies agreements. The US has open skies with the UAE and Qatar, home to the Gulf trio of Emirates, Etihad and Qatar Airways.

Unless US carriers have a strategic re-think of their competitors, antagonism towards Gulf carriers will surely grow. Emirates president Tim Clark told Reuters in Sep-2014 that Emirates aims to make the US its third largest source of revenue.

To do so, Emirates will likely need to increase its US capacity by 50-100% in the medium term. It may very well exceed that. The US comprised 7% of Emirates' revenue in 2013.

Emirates and Qatar Airways in 2014 will have about 12% of their global capacity in the US while Etihad will have 15%. This is up from 8% for Etihad and Emirates in 2008, and 9% for Qatar in 2008.

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Old December 26th, 2014, 04:05 PM   #1954
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I have a question: if Kuwait is awash in oil, and is on a good geographical position, why doesn't it have a big airline, since all small Gulf countries appear bent on dumping money on local-based airlines, from Oman to Dubai.
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Old December 26th, 2014, 06:10 PM   #1955
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There are really only 3 big Middle East Airlines, Emirates, Etihad and Qatar. Saudia is also large, but is still a modest sized airline compared these 3. Most of the other airlines from the smaller Gulf countries are small and often struggling, like Gulf Air and Kuwait Airways.

What are the reasons that not all these airlines grow as quickly as the ME3?

The political situation in these countries is not always as stable as Qatar or the UAE. Kuwait is rich, but had enough political turmoil in the last 10 years that also effected Kuwait Airways. The country is also bordering Iraq, the extreme political unrest in that country does have a damping effect on the economics of Kuwait especially with the involvement of Kuwait in the 1st gulf war. This has created a situation where the country is not diversifying it's economy as much as Qatar or the UAE.

Lastly it's also a question if there's a market beyond the 3 carriers that now grow the fastest. Their success make it even harder for the other airlines to be successful. Will the market allow a new airline to to take their time to build up another global reaching network with a hub in Kuwait when there are already 3 airlines doing the same already. They can now use the economy of scale in their advantage, blocking new competition from their own region.
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Old December 26th, 2014, 07:15 PM   #1956
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I have a question: if Kuwait is awash in oil, and is on a good geographical position, why doesn't it have a big airline, since all small Gulf countries appear bent on dumping money on local-based airlines, from Oman to Dubai.
Who's dumping money on an airline in Dubai or Sharjah? Qatar and Abu Dhabi are the only two who do.

Why Kuwait doesn't have an airline could probably easily be answered by - they don't care.

I think one more reason is that back in the day they had Gulf Air in all these countries. All of them left Gulf Air to start their own airline. Let's start with the first one - Emirates. Emirates was formed because Gulf Air wasn't fulfilling the role Dubai wanted. Back then Dubai had the desire to be a hub for commerce, aviation and trade. That required an airline that Dubai had full control of. So Emirates was formed. Seeing its success, other emirates and countries left Gulf Air one by one and formed their airlines to compete with Emirates. Since Kuwait was never part of Gulf Air, they never went down that route.
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Simple reason....Kuwait, Bahrain allow their egos to come in the way of running an airline company.....(which is why Abu Dhabi had to give up its stake of Gulf Air 12 years back)....

Saudi is a big market (add the 3 million a year religion-based tourists) and their airline gets enough point to point passengers for international and domestic flights and hence their focus has never been to become a global airline...

Oman's story is a bit different...They want their airline to grow organically!! For a hub-spoke carrier, profits come only when the airline itself has grown to a certain level which usually requires a lot of capital/infrastructure investment!! They have started a decent level of investment in the aviation sector there only in the last 3-5 years.
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Old December 27th, 2014, 01:48 PM   #1959
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You need brains to do what EK is doing. Long story short...
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