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Old May 14th, 2005, 07:55 PM   #1
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Madrid - Barcelona HSR to Start Operations in 2007

Madrid-Barcelona Bullet Train To Be Running In '07 -Govt
13 May 2005

MADRID (AP)--Spain will complete the Madrid-Barcelona high-speed train link by the end of 2007, two years behind schedule.

In a statement, the Development Ministry said work would begin on the last two phases of the route between the northeastern city of Lleida and Barcelona this month and would conclude in the first six months of 2007. The final touches should be completed by the end of that year.

The ministry also hopes to have high speed trains running between Madrid and the north central city of Valladolid as well as to Cordoba and Malaga, in the south, the same year.

The Madrid-Barcelona bullet train has been steeped in controversy for several years because of numerous labor accidents, building delays and a bitter row over the geological suitability of some of the land through which the train passes on the Madrid-Lleida route, which was inaugurated in 2003.

Spain inaugurated its first high-speed rail link in 1992 between Madrid and the southern city of Seville. Others are being built to link the capital to eastern Valencia and the Portuguese capital of Lisbon.
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Old May 15th, 2005, 05:23 AM   #2
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Cool. Pictures?
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Old May 15th, 2005, 05:26 AM   #3
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Here is some more information on the Spanish HSR initiative with some pictures of the trainsets and a map :

http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/spain/
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Old May 15th, 2005, 03:53 PM   #4
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Any comments from spaniards?
Also... when will the Madrid-Lerida line be operating at 300km/h?
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Old May 15th, 2005, 07:07 PM   #5
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Great, are there any plans to link it with TGV in France?
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Old May 15th, 2005, 09:49 PM   #7
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Yep, trains would continue through Barcelona, travel to Girona, and enter France.

On the other Basque part of the Pirineos, there will also be a connection to France, although this is longer term.
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Old May 15th, 2005, 09:53 PM   #8
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Any comments from spaniards?
Also... when will the Madrid-Lerida line be operating at 300km/h?
never
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Old May 15th, 2005, 10:06 PM   #9
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When they install the ERTMS level 1 the line velocity will be upgraded up to 300 km/h and when they install ERTMS level 2 the line will reach its final 350 km/h velocity.

When???? No idea I think I once heard level 1 due to open in summer and level 2 in autumn, but I think we'll have to wait more...this line had many problems while it was being built...
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Old May 15th, 2005, 10:13 PM   #10
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Quote:
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Great, are there any plans to link it with TGV in France?

Yes, the works began in November, the distance is realized with a tunnel.

Max speed: 350 km
Min speed: 120 km (fot goods)
Entry in service: 2009




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Old May 15th, 2005, 11:06 PM   #11
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Great news for Spain.
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Old May 15th, 2005, 11:29 PM   #12
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That Barcelona-Perpignan connection would be really fast. (roughly a 230km/h average speed - based on road distances).

As for the Barcelona-Marseille (~500km) the average speed would be about 140km/h... Much slower... because the line won't be high speed in france... Just a regular line with some improvements I think.
Same for the other destinations...
When (if) france constructs a high speed line between spain and Marseille, Barcelona-Marseille could be only around 2 hours....
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Old May 15th, 2005, 11:32 PM   #13
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When they install the ERTMS level 1 the line velocity will be upgraded up to 300 km/h and when they install ERTMS level 2 the line will reach its final 350 km/h velocity.

When???? No idea I think I once heard level 1 due to open in summer and level 2 in autumn, but I think we'll have to wait more...this line had many problems while it was being built...
I've heard they would operate an intermediate level at 250km/h (up from the current 200km/h)... aroud summer I think.... Let's wait and see...
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Old May 17th, 2005, 09:32 PM   #14
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Top speeds:

In Summer 2005: 250km/h
In 2006: 300km/h
In 2007: 350km/h

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Old May 18th, 2005, 01:01 AM   #15
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^That's good news!
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Old October 4th, 2005, 02:56 AM   #16
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Spanish high speed train TALGO, "the duck"

Hello, good evening!


On September the 19th 2005, I caught the newest Spanish high speed train:
TALGO "the duck", from Madrid to Lleida. Maximum speed 340km/h.


I took 36 photos, here you are:
My "duck" in Madrid Puerta de Atocha station:
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[IMG]http://************/e8ampy.jpg[/IMG]

Series number:
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[IMG]http://************/e8amx0.jpg[/IMG]

Outside display:
[IMG]http://************/e8an0y.jpg[/IMG]

Tourist class:
[IMG]http://************/e8an7s.jpg[/IMG]

Inside display, 13ºC in Madrid Atocha at 6.37am:
[IMG]http://************/e8anes.jpg[/IMG]

Link between 2 tourist class cars:
[IMG]http://************/e8ango.jpg[/IMG]

Luggage racks in tourist class:
[IMG]http://************/e8anhx.jpg[/IMG]

Space between 2 tourist class cars:
[IMG]http://************/e8anmf.jpg[/IMG]

Toilet in tourist class:
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Tourist class car:
[IMG]http://************/e8ansz.jpg[/IMG]

Screens in tourist class:
[IMG]http://************/e8anv9.jpg[/IMG]

Luggage racks in tourist class:
[IMG]http://************/e8anwh.jpg[/IMG]

Station platform:
[IMG]http://************/e8ao0o.jpg[/IMG]

Preferent class car:
[IMG]http://************/e8jo6e.jpg[/IMG]

"Minibar" in preferent class:
[IMG]http://************/e8jo8i.jpg[/IMG]

Corridor from preferent class car to the cafeteria:
[IMG]http://************/e8jod5.jpg[/IMG]

Cafeteria:
[IMG]http://************/e8jojp.jpg[/IMG]

Preferent class car:
[IMG]http://************/e8jolj.jpg[/IMG]

Preferent class car, with public payphone:
[IMG]http://************/e8jomv.jpg[/IMG]

Preferent class car:
[IMG]http://************/e8jor9.jpg[/IMG]

Access to train "locomotive":
[IMG]http://************/e8josx.jpg[/IMG]

Stewards and hostess "control panel":
[IMG]http://************/e8kebc.jpg[/IMG]

Controls to open and close doors:
[IMG]http://************/e8kegn.jpg[/IMG]

Outside panel:
[IMG]http://************/e8keih.jpg[/IMG]

Up luggage racks in tourist class:
[IMG]http://************/e8kenl.jpg[/IMG]

Pillow in tourist class seat:
[IMG]http://************/e8kgee.jpg[/IMG]

Up transparent luggage racks in tourist class:
[IMG]http://************/e8kgib.jpg[/IMG]

Tourist class screen:
[IMG]http://************/e8kgpd.jpg[/IMG]

Calatayud station platform:
[IMG]http://************/e8kguu.jpg[/IMG]

Tracks in Calatayud station:
[IMG]http://************/e8kh1c.jpg[/IMG]

Amazing new Zaragoza Delicias station, it was forbidden to take pictures :
[IMG]http://************/e8khaw.jpg[/IMG]

Lleida Pirineus station:
[IMG]http://************/e8khfr.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://************/e8khkw.jpg[/IMG]

"My TALGO duck" in the background, and TALGO Altaria to Barcelona arriving:
[IMG]http://************/e8kho7.jpg[/IMG]

This train is wonderful, I hope you like the images.

Enjoy!!
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Old October 4th, 2005, 03:00 AM   #17
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Old October 4th, 2005, 03:40 AM   #18
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Very nice, thanks for posting. I wish the entire Spanish network was at least similar to this.
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Old October 4th, 2005, 04:11 AM   #19
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Damn. Everything is so well done, from the comical duck look to the amazing trainsets to the stations.
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Old October 4th, 2005, 04:19 AM   #20
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wonderful thread!! i wish so much Mexico can buy one of this, specially from Spain would be great
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